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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 21 @ 10:44 PM ET
good stuff, lots of prospects, more will hit
- wcorvette


This kid has basically gotten only 5v5 training, which is either super genius or just an oversight. I think it's the former and not by chance.

Either way, I think it bodes well for his future.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 21 @ 10:48 PM ET
How do you think the Flyers would fare in a 7 games playoff series against a team that could neutralize or limit the Flyers top line?
- MJL

I think their forwards are pretty good right now.
If they are healthy they have 2 very good lines and a decent 3rd line. With Filp playing on the 4th line they are pretty deep there.

In the playoffs I think their 2nd and 3rd pair D will not hold up. Goaltending is also a question mark currently.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 21 @ 10:56 PM ET
I think their forwards are pretty good right now.
If they are healthy they have 2 very good lines and a decent 3rd line. With Filp playing on the 4th line they are pretty deep there.

In the playoffs I think their 2nd and 3rd pair D will not hold up. Goaltending is also a question mark currently.

- Marc D


I give them a punchers chance in the first round against whoever they face. Washington has proven a bad matchup for them, but I think they are closer.

I think the depth is better, but not where it needs to be.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 21 @ 10:58 PM ET
More like Tessa Bonhuminahumina
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 21 @ 10:59 PM ET
I give them a punchers chance in the first round against whoever they face. Washington has proven a bad matchup for them, but I think they are closer.

I think the depth is better, but not where it needs to be.

- johndewar

Sure, they can win a round or two especially if Mzarek pans out until and if Elliott gets back.

With the current D and PK, winning any playoff round will be amazing.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 21 @ 11:04 PM ET
Sure, they can win a round or two especially if Mzarek pans out until and if Elliott gets back.

With the current D and PK, winning any playoff round will be amazing.

- Marc D


Totally agreed.

Love their current run, but I can see the flaws too. They are not deep enough quite yet.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 21 @ 11:21 PM ET
Oh ye of little faith, lol.

2 of the best defenders in Flyers history were undersized guys: Mark Howe and Kimmo Timonen. You can't teach pure skill and creativity, but everything else is fair game. As long as Ghost was willing to apply himself and work on improving defensively, there was no reason he couldn't succeed at that part of the game as well.

- BiggE


I don't expect this to last.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 22 @ 12:02 AM ET
manning. sanheim. sanheim. manning.

manheim. sanman. mansan. heiming.

- hammarby31


Manning is Sanheim, Sanheim is manning. Manning’s not a nhl hockey player!
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Feb 22 @ 12:10 AM ET
Manning is Sanheim, Sanheim is manning. Manning’s not a nhl hockey player!
- funmaster18


I thought Finkel is Einhorn and Einhorn is Finkel. Finkel is not an NFL kicker.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Feb 22 @ 12:28 AM ET
I think you have enough in the pipeline that you can risk a little. I dont want an adam oates deal. Something that makes sense. But I think they have earned enough to take some risk. Especially since I think k all the east t3ams have warts.
- J35Bacher

A player like Karlsson gives you a variable that most teams don't have. Look at NJ Devils and the Anaheim cup. 2 words. Scotty Neidermeyer. A generational top D man who skates the way he does and sees the game allows teams like the ducks and devils - basically one line teams win cups.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 22 @ 12:57 AM ET
I've never seen people eat poop as hard as these Halfpipe skiers.

Also, I don't want the ladies to lose again
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 22 @ 12:58 AM ET
I've never seen people eat poop as hard as these Halfpipe skiers.

Also, I don't want the ladies to lose again

- YuenglingJagr


Bless your heart, watching the Winter Olympics!
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 22 @ 1:11 AM ET
Bless your heart, watching the Winter Olympics!
- johndewar

I need my fix of Pierre
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 22 @ 2:04 AM ET
Unreal save with 30 seconds left in OT on the PK The 4v4 OT was actually pretty good
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 22 @ 3:16 AM ET
Yeh I’d rather have Simmonds.
Just think they are a goalie getting hot and a top 4 D man from going on a real run this year.

- Marc D


goalie, dman, winger. would be nice.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 22 @ 3:18 AM ET
Manning is Sanheim, Sanheim is manning. Manning’s not a nhl hockey player!
- funmaster18


oh, but he IS. just like velde WAS.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 22 @ 4:08 AM ET
Gold medals awarded via shootout. What a disgrace to this game
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 22 @ 4:10 AM ET
Gold medals awarded via shootout. What a disgrace to this game
- Giroux_Is_God


(frank) it. we're champions.
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Feb 22 @ 6:39 AM ET
A player like Karlsson gives you a variable that most teams don't have. Look at NJ Devils and the Anaheim cup. 2 words. Scotty Neidermeyer. A generational top D man who skates the way he does and sees the game allows teams like the ducks and devils - basically one line teams win cups.
- Pixote Andolini



Agree that he used to skate like that...he hasn't been quite the same since his surgery, at least not yet. That is a hell of a lot of risk to give up those kind of assets for an aging player who may have the additional pressure of injury compensation slowing him down.

Personally, I think I'd call Arizona and kick the tires on Hammer for the second pair or give us the ability to split Provy/Ghost. I think he could he be had for Haag, a middling prospect and a 2nd/3rd round pick
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 22 @ 7:06 AM ET
Agree that he used to skate like that...he hasn't been quite the same since his surgery, at least not yet. That is a hell of a lot of risk to give up those kind of assets for an aging player who may have the additional pressure of injury compensation slowing him down.

Personally, I think I'd call Arizona and kick the tires on Hammer for the second pair or give us the ability to split Provy/Ghost. I think he could he be had for Haag, a middling prospect and a 2nd/3rd round pick

- juiced



I am not moving Hagg. i know he isn't as sexy as the big name guys like Morin, Sanheim or Myers but I think he is going to be one of the reliable guys that isn't going to make you break the bank in the future.

You say Hagg for Hjarlmsson when really Hagg is a younger version in my eyes.

I would be curious what justin Faulk would cost. I know the canes are in the division but I have seen his name floated before. He is a young vet signed reasonably for 2 more years. Can play heavy minutes and QB a PP.

juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Feb 22 @ 7:25 AM ET
I am not moving Hagg. i know he isn't as sexy as the big name guys like Morin, Sanheim or Myers but I think he is going to be one of the reliable guys that isn't going to make you break the bank in the future.

You say Hagg for Hjarlmsson when really Hagg is a younger version in my eyes.

I would be curious what justin Faulk would cost. I know the canes are in the division but I have seen his name floated before. He is a young vet signed reasonably for 2 more years. Can play heavy minutes and QB a PP.

- J35Bacher



I dont disagree he's a younger version...just that Haag may be the cost to get an asset like that. Hjarlmsson would allow Gudas to slide up and Amac to slide down to Manning and could help balance the pairs.

I am not thrilled with the idea of moving Haag....it isn't an indictment on his play or potential. I merely postulated it as a way to balance the pairs....get a more advanced version of what Haag brings with more puck control skills. What you lose it what Haag may become....it was more the thought if they really were serious about a run and not just taking the playoffs as they come.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 22 @ 7:35 AM ET
I dont disagree he's a younger version...just that Haag may be the cost to get an asset like that. Hjarlmsson would allow Gudas to slide up and Amac to slide down to Manning and could help balance the pairs.

I am not thrilled with the idea of moving Haag....it isn't an indictment on his play or potential. I merely postulated it as a way to balance the pairs....get a more advanced version of what Haag brings with more puck control skills. What you lose it what Haag may become....it was more the thought if they really were serious about a run and not just taking the playoffs as they come.

- juiced



had the same thought, if you are going to trade one of the blue chip D it has to be Hagg. That said, when Hagg is anchoring the 3rd D pair, you will know the Flyers are ready to contend.
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Feb 22 @ 7:36 AM ET
Agree that he used to skate like that...he hasn't been quite the same since his surgery, at least not yet. That is a hell of a lot of risk to give up those kind of assets for an aging player who may have the additional pressure of injury compensation slowing him down.

Personally, I think I'd call Arizona and kick the tires on Hammer for the second pair or give us the ability to split Provy/Ghost. I think he could he be had for Haag, a middling prospect and a 2nd/3rd round pick

- juiced


It's been beat to death, but I bring up Sanheim and play him on the second pair before I try to bring in anyone. Plus I don't want to bring in D with any term. I would actually like to move a dman (McD or Gudas) this summer.

Also, I would not split Provy or Ghost at all, they have been one of the best d-pairings in the NHL.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 22 @ 7:46 AM ET
had the same thought, if you are going to trade one of the blue chip D it has to be Hagg. That said, when Hagg is anchoring the 3rd D pair, you will know the Flyers are ready to contend.
- wcorvette


Hagg isn't good
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Feb 22 @ 7:49 AM ET
@brad_keffer
Travis Sanheim update:

15 points in 13 games, 52.67% 5v5 CF,+5.98% CF rel, 55.73% 5v5 SCF, +13 5v5 goal diff, 1.12 average Game Score.

Ridiculous.


Sanheim is not ready for the NHL.
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