Oh I assumed he was in his last year. My bad.
- MBFlyerfan

I thought he was also. I had to look it up first to see.

The question is, is this the right time? I don't think it is personally.
- MJL

But you never know. It could be the last time with this core. That's why I say make a move. Not a dumb move. But you can make a move without putting your whole future at risk

Since he would be their property they could sign him to an extension any time they wanted to.
- MBFlyerfan

I thought players couldn't sign a contract extension until they're in the final year of their current contract? So the Flyers (or any team) would have to wait til July 1 to make it official.

In the end, it's a moot point because from the sound of things, he will be testing FA and setting records. He and Doughty have made that pretty clear.

Don’t go down the rabbit hole. There’s nothing but pain, misery and the forlorn lost hopes of so many tragic false narratives down there. Save yourself while you can.
- BiggE

Thank you, I'm saving this for when I get the urge.

But you never know. It could be the last time with this core. That's why I say make a move. Not a dumb move. But you can make a move without putting your whole future at risk
- J35Bacher

You're right it could be although I don't see this core going anywhere. I think there are low risk and low cost moves that can be made but when I break down this team, I think they're a good competitive team and a playoff team mostly based on the quality of their top players but ultimately has too many warts to make a legitimate run. I think it would be a mistake to throw out quality assets in attempt to shore the team up and win now. They were forced into making a move for a goalie. Other than some minor moves, I hope Hextall stands pat, stays the course, and let's it roll as is.

You're right it could be although I don't see this core going anywhere. I think there are low risk and low cost moves that can be made but when I break down this team, I think they're a good competitive team and a playoff team mostly based on the quality of their top players but ultimately has too many warts to make a legitimate run. I think it would be a mistake to throw out quality assets in attempt to shore the team up and win now. They were forced into making a move for a goalie. Other than some minor moves, I hope Hextall stands pat, stays the course, and let's it roll as is.
- MJL

I think you have enough in the pipeline that you can risk a little. I dont want an adam oates deal. Something that makes sense. But I think they have earned enough to take some risk. Especially since I think k all the east t3ams have warts.

Do you honestly believe Manning is a better player than Sanheim right now? Please answer the question directly. You can use whatever version of "better" you think is appropriate.
- mickel25

I agree with MJL that at the time Sanheim went down Manning was playing better,in fact it wasn’t even close, the arm chair coaches on here who don’t understand Hockey and keep throwing out Vet and all that other BS haven’t got a clue.Hak is playing who he believes gives him the best chance to win, he played Provy as a rookie and Hagg as well ,as he has confidence in them. Sanheim was brutal when he went down by eye test and stats -10. Yea he’s probably playing better now but don’t think he’d be an upgrade over Manning or Gudas at this time. As far as him being better on PP than Provy just confirms the lack of Hockey IQ on this forum by some writers. And as far as booing Amac or any Flyer your not a true fan , goes for smashing them here as well. Should be happy Hexy and Hak have them going in the right direction with lots to look forward to.

I agree with MJL that at the time Sanheim went down Manning was playing better,in fact it wasn’t even close, the arm chair coaches on here who don’t understand Hockey and keep throwing out Vet and all that other BS haven’t got a clue.Hak is playing who he believes gives him the best chance to win, he played Provy as a rookie and Hagg as well ,as he has confidence in them. Sanheim was brutal when he went down by eye test and stats -10. Yea he’s probably playing better now but don’t think he’d be an upgrade over Manning or Gudas at this time. As far as him being better on PP than Provy just confirms the lack of Hockey IQ on this forum by some writers. And as far as booing Amac or any Flyer your not a true fan , goes for smashing them here as well. Should be happy Hexy and Hak have them going in the right direction with lots to look forward to.
- Skinner

I’d love to know how to measure the hockey IQ.

Educate please.

I think you have enough in the pipeline that you can risk a little. I dont want an adam oates deal. Something that makes sense. But I think they have earned enough to take some risk. Especially since I think k all the east t3ams have warts.
- J35Bacher

How do you think the Flyers would fare in a 7 games playoff series against a team that could neutralize or limit the Flyers top line?

But you never know. It could be the last time with this core. That's why I say make a move. Not a dumb move. But you can make a move without putting your whole future at risk
- J35Bacher

agreed address the bottom of the line up and see what happens

I agree with MJL that at the time Sanheim went down Manning was playing better,in fact it wasn’t even close, the arm chair coaches on here who don’t understand Hockey and keep throwing out Vet and all that other BS haven’t got a clue.Hak is playing who he believes gives him the best chance to win, he played Provy as a rookie and Hagg as well ,as he has confidence in them. Sanheim was brutal when he went down by eye test and stats -10. Yea he’s probably playing better now but don’t think he’d be an upgrade over Manning or Gudas at this time. As far as him being better on PP than Provy just confirms the lack of Hockey IQ on this forum by some writers. And as far as booing Amac or any Flyer your not a true fan , goes for smashing them here as well. Should be happy Hexy and Hak have them going in the right direction with lots to look forward to.
- Skinner

while I agree with you on AMAC and do agree based upon trust and winning Manning was the right choice calling folks arm chair GM's is a little harsh, posters with the opposite opinion are the doing the same as you, expressing their opinion. Sorry but your hockey knowledge isn't vastly better than any others on this board, just like Manning wasnt vastly better than SanHeim

How do you think the Flyers would fare in a 7 games playoff series against a team that could neutralize or limit the Flyers top line?
- MJL

That's why I suggested a guy like brassard. Now you go couturier, Patrick, brassard, Laughton down the middle. I like brassard as a filppula type deal. With having another year you still have a solid depth in the middle next season because I am not sure there is a center ready yet.

I am actually not scared of anyone in the east. Tampa is probably the toughest but I think the flyers can make it a series. Also you have no clue if any upsets happen that change things. Lind of like the 2010 run.

How do you think the Flyers would fare in a 7 games playoff series against a team that could neutralize or limit the Flyers top line?
- MJL

Depends do you feel this is the ceiling of Patrick for this year or is there more growth? Guys like Konency and Patrick won't be needed to carry the load but to contribute at the current level I expect. I see Patrick continue to evolve generating offense 5 on 5.

That's why I suggested a guy like brassard. Now you go couturier, Patrick, brassard, Laughton down the middle. I like brassard as a filppula type deal. With having another year you still have a solid depth in the middle next season because I am not sure there is a center ready yet.

I am actually not scared of anyone in the east. Tampa is probably the toughest but I think the flyers can make it a series. Also you have no clue if any upsets happen that change things. Lind of like the 2010 run.
- J35Bacher

Tampa, Pittsburgh, Washington and Boston are real threats in the east. Leafs are no pushover.

Nashville is a powerhouse.

A move that I suppose makes sense for the long term future is okay, but stay the course.

That's why I suggested a guy like brassard. Now you go couturier, Patrick, brassard, Laughton down the middle. I like brassard as a filppula type deal. With having another year you still have a solid depth in the middle next season because I am not sure there is a center ready yet.

I am actually not scared of anyone in the east. Tampa is probably the toughest but I think the flyers can make it a series. Also you have no clue if any upsets happen that change things. Lind of like the 2010 run.
- J35Bacher

The rumored asking price for Brassard is very high. He is already 30 years old. With the Flyers having Patrick, and a strong prospect base at center, I see trading for Brassard as an unwise move.

Boston is very strong and Pittsburgh is surging.

Depends do you feel this is the ceiling of Patrick for this year or is there more growth? Guys like Konency and Patrick won't be needed to carry the load but to contribute at the current level I expect. I see Patrick continue to evolve generating offense 5 on 5.
- ravishingone

More future growth certainly but I see when playoff hockey checking tightens up I think there is a very good chance that the production of Konecny which has been a key for the Flyers lately and Patrick goes down.

The rumored asking price for Brassard is very high. He is already 30 years old. With the Flyers having Patrick, and a strong prospect base at center, I see trading for Brassard as an unwise move.

Boston is very strong and Pittsburgh is surging.
- MJL

And maybe it's not brassard. He is just one example. But the flyers have been a surging team too. I still think they can risk a little to make a push.

More future growth certainly but I see when playoff hockey checking tightens up I think there is a very good chance that the production of Konecny which has been a key for the Flyers lately and Patrick goes down.
- MJL

I think what helps is they aren't the main guys on their lines. Patrick will eventually be but right now it's voracek. I think that can help as they aren't guys driving play.

while I agree with you on AMAC and do agree based upon trust and winning Manning was the right choice calling folks arm chair GM's is a little harsh, posters with the opposite opinion are the doing the same as you, expressing their opinion. Sorry but your hockey knowledge isn't vastly better than any others on this board, just like Manning wasnt vastly better than SanHeim
- wcorvette

Yea maybe a little harsh on the arm chair GM,s and coaches but beating a dead horse over Sanheim being a rookie and Manning and Gudas a vet over and over when I believe has nothing to do with playing . Hak has shown he will play a rookie. Sanheim will be a better Defenseman one day but right now he isn’t. While Gudas has played better and should be a top 4 , Manning is what he is a 6/7 guy who is cheap and can step in and fill in for an injury. Agree Manning isn’t very tough but doesn’t back down , which is why personally I like the Flyers, even last night he fights a guy 20 pds heavier-and Habs tough guy. He doesn’t win but team knows he’s one guy who would have there back. I like the way Hak has brought along Ghost, Provy, and even Konecny. Go Flyers!!

And maybe it's not brassard. He is just one example. But the flyers have been a surging team too. I still think they can risk a little to make a push.
- J35Bacher

Define risk a little? Rumored asking price with multiple team looking at Brassard is a 1st round pick, top prospect and an NHL player. Now rumors are just rumors and we'll see what happens but teams will be competing with each other that feel they hav ea shot and the Flyers would need to get in that mix.

All season long there has been a fine line between winning and losing for the Flyers. Hence the 10 game losing streak. How much does a player like Brassard change that versus the risk and the cost?

More future growth certainly but I see when playoff hockey checking tightens up I think there is a very good chance that the production of Konecny which has been a key for the Flyers lately and Patrick goes down.
- MJL

Maybe, there is an uncertainty. More then likely, the Coots line is going to face the other teams best line. As Pittsburgh as shown, speed at forward even in playoff hockey is difficult to contain, not that concerned about Konency. What I like about Patrick s game is he works well in tight spaces and wins a lot of board battles. Another year of strength will do him wonders. My vision is very simple for the rest of the season. Keep Lindblom playing even when Simmonds returns. Lindblom plays a game perfect for NHL hockey and get another dman. Not a Karlsson or McDonough, but someone else to break up the 3rd pairing. It can't be over stated the Flyers have a legit 1st pairing that is going to play 25+ minutes a night. Give them just a little more serviceable help.

Yea maybe a little harsh on the arm chair GM,s and coaches but beating a dead horse over Sanheim being a rookie and Manning and Gudas a vet over and over when I believe has nothing to do with playing . Hak has shown he will play a rookie. Sanheim will be a better Defenseman one day but right now he isn’t. While Gudas has played better and should be a top 4 , Manning is what he is a 6/7 guy who is cheap and can step in and fill in for an injury. Agree Manning isn’t very tough but doesn’t back down , which is why personally I like the Flyers, even last night he fights a guy 20 pds heavier-and Habs tough guy. He doesn’t win but team knows he’s one guy who would have there back. I like the way Hak has brought along Ghost, Provy, and even Konecny. Go Flyers!!
- Skinner

You're on point. You should post more. Hakstol has done a fantastic job with the young players especially Konecny.

Maybe, there is an uncertainty. More then likely, the Coots line is going to face the other teams best line. As Pittsburgh as shown, speed at forward even in playoff hockey is difficult to contain, not that concerned about Konency. What I like about Patrick s game is he works well in tight spaces and wins a lot of board battles. Another year of strength will do him wonders. My vision is very simple for the rest of the season. Keep Lindblom playing even when Simmonds returns. Lindblom plays a game perfect for NHL hockey and get another dman. Not a Karlsson or McDonough, but someone else to break up the 3rd pairing. It can't be over stated the Flyers have a legit 1st pairing that is going to play 25+ minutes a night. Give them just a little more serviceable help.
- ravishingone

I think the Flyers could add a decent 3rd pair veteran defenseman relatively cheaply and possibly add a character forward such as Brad Richardson who is a good PKer. As long as the costs are right. Patrick has certainly grown and taken steps forward this year but I don't think it's fair to expect him to produce 2nd line center numbers in the playoffs against top teams.

I think the Flyers could add a decent 3rd pair veteran defenseman relatively cheaply and possibly add a character forward such as Brad Richardson who is a good PKer. As long as the costs are right. Patrick has certainly grown and taken steps forward this year but I don't think it's fair to expect him to produce 2nd line center numbers in the playoffs against top teams.
- MJL

I am watching the hawks game and I actually like tommy winggles who can kill penalties. Also has some solid wheels