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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Feb 20 @ 6:04 PM ET
We are aware.
- Corn_Logg

Has he mentioned how he'd like a guy to help keep the flies off?
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Feb 20 @ 6:04 PM ET
lets leave the 'heavy hockey' to chiarelli....I think hes proven that you don't trade speed for 'heavy'.
- Barx



Playing heavy doesn’t mean your 220 pounds
I understand your point
Maroon
And lucic are big boys but do not play heavy (physical)
Hyman is maybe 195poubds but he plays heavy (physical) iow excites to be an nhl player. Would you play heavy and get excited for $1mil a year and often more $$$ like lucic. Hyman is a gem
Corn_Logg
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Jorts and Jergens, ON
Joined: 02.10.2014

Feb 20 @ 6:06 PM ET
Has he mentioned how he'd like a guy to help keep the flies off?
- gergeswillems

No but apparently he likes 'real good people'.
Garth_Mctavish
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.10.2014

Feb 20 @ 6:06 PM ET
These small moves tell me he is going to do something of some significance. Clearing two contracts and some cap space.
- Santo_44

Or, he’s getting low pics for players with no future as part of the club
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 20 @ 6:08 PM ET
Hyman is basically a more talented Glenny. I know you guys would love Glenny if he becomes a Leaf. There's a reason why Babs loves him so much.
- gergeswillems

from what I see in Glenny, he is a great faceoff man, is not a liability defensively.

He won't give you anything offensively, not that getting 25% OFF zone starts helps. But for 1.8 million you shouldn't expect anything over what he does.

If they get him, it's simply a trade for Babs, the fans shouldn't care either way. It dosnt hurt our team, it dosnt help us a whole lot.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 20 @ 6:09 PM ET
Or, he’s getting low pics for players with no future as part of the club
- Garth_Mctavish

Doubt it very much.

The C depth is extremely weak, Fehr is a center. A 7th round pick in 2020 is pretty much nothing. The contract space and salary is what actually matters in this trade.

Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Feb 20 @ 6:10 PM ET
Feel for tsn on Monday. Doubt they will have much to talk about lol
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 20 @ 6:12 PM ET


Thanks Buston!

- VanHockeyGuy


i think the guddy signing has you unhinged.

you should probably have some cookies and a warm glass of milk. that should help settle you down.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Feb 20 @ 6:12 PM ET
Feel for tsn on Monday. Doubt they will have much to talk about lol
- Aaron_85

Sportsnet should invite Ek to break some trades.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 20 @ 6:12 PM ET
Doubt it very much.

The C depth is extremely weak, Fehr is a center. A 7th round pick in 2020 is pretty much nothing. The contract space and salary is what actually matters in this trade.

- Santo_44


yup
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Feb 20 @ 6:13 PM ET
yeah. just some house cleaning so they're not scrambling on the deadline day to clear up contracts/cap space.

i think they have a lot of irons in the fire and will pull the trigger on a fair deal, if one or more comes up. i don't think they're like the burke regime that sets its sites on a player and will pay any cost to get him.

- Tumbleweed

Hey tums🙋..having my beer. .or beers ..ya.. I think they wouldn't mind clearing another. .Mashin or. .leaveO..
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 20 @ 6:15 PM ET
Hey tums🙋..having my beer. .or beers ..ya.. I think they wouldn't mind clearing another. .Mashin or. .leaveO..
- MR.Hunter


m.martin and leavO for glendening.

we just need to get our good friend george willy on board with it. he'll pass the message to ek, who will fax it into the league office.
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Feb 20 @ 6:17 PM ET
Milan lucic when he was with Boston played way more physical as he was much younger. Then in LA you could already see he was being weaned from the breast(declining physical play) charellie signed him thinking by putting him with mcdavid he’d have a resurgence in physical play. Unfortunately he is in decline at $6mil per. Maroon also in same boat. The physicallity the oilers thought they’d have was like a slow leak in a truck tire (18 wheeler) which is now going off the road in Oiler land. Glendening I believe is a more physical player great on face offs etc but that’s about it.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Feb 20 @ 6:17 PM ET
Playing heavy doesn’t mean your 220 pounds
I understand your point
Maroon
And lucic are big boys but do not play heavy (physical)
Hyman is maybe 195poubds but he plays heavy (physical) iow excites to be an nhl player. Would you play heavy and get excited for $1mil a year and often more $$$ like lucic. Hyman is a gem

- BreathLeafs2015


Lucic, while in decline, is still one of the few prototypical power forwards in the game today: 30 points and top 5 in hits (right behind Uncle Leo).
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Feb 20 @ 6:20 PM ET
m.martin and leavO for glendening.

we just need to get our good friend george willy on board with it. he'll pass the message to ek, who will fax it into the league office.

- Tumbleweed

MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Feb 20 @ 6:22 PM ET


Thanks Buston!

- VanHockeyGuy

All those poor Vancouver children! ..they should be asking for jake V
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Feb 20 @ 6:23 PM ET

- gergeswillems

Willy willy ..
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Feb 20 @ 6:24 PM ET
Sportsnet should invite Ek to break some trades.
- gergeswillems


Did he break one?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 20 @ 6:24 PM ET
Willy willy ..
- MR.Hunter


wtf is going on in ottawa.

they want ryan to be packaged with karlssen??? who da fuk has that kind of cap space
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Feb 20 @ 6:26 PM ET
wtf is going on in ottawa.

they want ryan to be packaged with karlssen??? who da fuk has that kind of cap space

- Tumbleweed



Arizona?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 20 @ 6:27 PM ET
Arizona?
- Steven_Seagull


AZ is more broke than ottawa.

they're a dumping ground for zombie contracts only.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Feb 20 @ 6:28 PM ET

- gergeswillems


Laugh it up, but he was on Kenny's wishlist only to be nabbed by crafty Lou first.

Honestly I don't really see Glendening as an upgrade over Moore or even Gauthier. At least with Moore we can walk away on July 1st. Glenny is signed until 20-21? Martin 2.0? No thanks.

Leafs need some center depth.

We need a Kapanen or a Soshnikov, guys with skill who are trying to break into the league full-time playing in the 4 hole but projected to be a 3 hole guy.

Trading for a veteran 4C? Makes zero sense to me. If you're in your late 20s and you're a career PKer 8 minute guy, you're somebody else's problem.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Feb 20 @ 6:28 PM ET
AZ is more broke than ottawa.

they're a dumping ground for zombie contracts only.

- Tumbleweed



You asked about cap space...



Fair enough.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Feb 20 @ 6:28 PM ET
wtf is going on in ottawa.

they want ryan to be packaged with karlssen??? who da fuk has that kind of cap space

- Tumbleweed


That would be a better off season deal but you know it's Melnyk.

Carolina maybe?
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Feb 20 @ 6:29 PM ET
i think the guddy signing has you unhinged.

you should probably have some cookies and a warm glass of milk. that should help settle you down.

- Tumbleweed

After that signing ..more like a bottle of vodka. ..and a bottle of perocets! .
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