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ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

Feb 20 @ 12:17 PM ET
I really hope we trade AA. I am a bigger fan of his than most on this board. But I think he is exactly what a trade deadline team wants for playoff hockey. Center, size, experience, stability. Net front presence. He would be a very positive upgrade for about any playoff teams 3rd line. I can't imagine he has less value than a Weiss trade from two years ago, or some of the trades we've made at the deadline in our playoff runs where we traded lots for sthe playoff upgrade. Make it happen, Stan.
- Cmonalready


Agreed, he's a decent value for a 3C at $4M, but he's never getting better and in my opinion he's a proven non-winner. He'll never top 40 points again, and is a bit of a passenger.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Feb 20 @ 12:20 PM ET
Duclair would have to pass through waivers to be sent to Rockford.

I'm ok with Duclair getting a one year contract for next season, I view him along the same lines as Jurco. I have no expectations but it doesn't hurt to keep him around in the short term to see if he works out. Given the Hawks cap situation its a good move to take a chance on guys like Duclair, plus they unloaded Panik's contract.

- DarthKane


Why worry about losing Duclair to a waiver claim? Nobody in the entire league had any interest in trading for him until Stanbo came along with his Panik offer, mainly because he doesn't do anything out there. Send him down to Rockford after the TDL and play him 20 minutes a night to find out if he's worth qualifying as an RFQ. Like I said earlier, he 's running out of NHL chances.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Feb 20 @ 12:25 PM ET
I'm not about to sift through a 7 minute interview with Anti Raanta. What was so interesting?
- Dieselhead


Sorry somehow I attached the wrong link!

https://www.nhl.com/video...ks/t-278910374/c-57795303
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Feb 20 @ 12:28 PM ET
TRADE:

To #Bruins
Nick Holden

To #NYR 
Rob O'Gara
2018 3rd round pick
gnosox1986
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 01.25.2012

Feb 20 @ 12:28 PM ET
Why worry about losing Duclair to a waiver claim? Nobody in the entire league had any interest in trading for him until Stanbo came along with his Panik offer, mainly because he doesn't do anything out there. Send him down to Rockford after the TDL and play him 20 minutes a night to find out if he's worth qualifying as an RFQ. Like I said earlier, he 's running out of NHL chances.
- RickJ


There is a difference between giving up an asset and just outright claiming him. (especially if someone gets hurt and he can fill a spot for team in need.)

It would be, not impossible, but highly unlikely that Duclair would go unclaimed.
Spec41971
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Rolling meadows, IL
Joined: 03.04.2017

Feb 20 @ 12:34 PM ET
I thought that’s what the first 20 minutes of the game was.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Feb 20 @ 12:39 PM ET
Why worry about losing Duclair to a waiver claim? Nobody in the entire league had any interest in trading for him until Stanbo came along with his Panik offer, mainly because he doesn't do anything out there. Send him down to Rockford after the TDL and play him 20 minutes a night to find out if he's worth qualifying as an RFQ. Like I said earlier, he 's running out of NHL chances.
- RickJ


We don’t actually know that, all we really know is:

Coyotes general manager John Chayka said. "We worked through some things, tried a lot of different approaches in a lot of different ways. As things seemed to evolve, it kept coming back that it was probably best for a change of scenery for both sides. So, I've been trying to find a fit that made sense for Anthony and made sense for us. I felt this was our best opportunity.
Spec41971
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Rolling meadows, IL
Joined: 03.04.2017

Feb 20 @ 12:44 PM ET
I agree. If they have a healthy Crow and can add a top pairing defender and the young players continue to progress this team is not terrible. As awful as the D and goaltending has been the Hawks are 16th in goals allowed. If they stop 10 more goals over 60 games they are in the top 10 in goals allowed. As young as their forwards are they are 18th in goals scored. If they had 10 more goals over 60 games they would be in the top 10 in scoring. Goaltending and D impacts both goals scored and goals against. The difference between winning and losing in this league is razor thin. Small changes can make major impacts.
- -Doh-


I am a big fan of Crawford. Think he’s been a great goalie for this team and under appreciated by many fans and people on this blog.

Looking to next year, however, I would be very concerned about the Hawks’ goaltending situation. I might be thinking anecdotally, but I don’t think Crawford has played more than one year without injury during the last three or four years. His supposed concussion events ( I believe that are real) have to be raising some flags in the front office. Everything I’ve read over the last several years is that having concussions makes future concussions more likely and more severe.

I agree with those on this board who say he should be shutdown for the rest of the year. There is nothing to be gaining by depriving him of a lengthy recovery time. But I wouldn’t plan for next year without having a very solid backup capable of coming in and playing about half the games.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 20 @ 12:51 PM ET
TRADE:

To #Bruins
Nick Holden

To #NYR 
Rob O'Gara
2018 3rd round pick

- walleyeb1



-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 20 @ 12:52 PM ET
Great idea. The Hawks official message board on their website has or used to have that feature. I haven't been on those boards in a few years.

BTW, are any of you on those boards regularly?

- AEL_Fox


Maybe. But not as -Doh-.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Feb 20 @ 12:52 PM ET
There is a difference between giving up an asset and just outright claiming him. (especially if someone gets hurt and he can fill a spot for team in need.)

It would be, not impossible, but highly unlikely that Duclair would go unclaimed.

- gnosox1986


We"ll never know unless the Hawks expose him to waivers by trying to send him down. Unless it is a bottom feeder team, doubt he is of much interest around the league, particularly since he has to be qualified as an RFA in the summer.

DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 20 @ 12:56 PM ET
People may complain about Bowman as GM, but just know there are much worse out there.



glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

Feb 20 @ 12:58 PM ET
People may complain about Bowman as GM, but just know there are much worse out there.



- DarthKane


those are the GMs we should target to trade with.
Savetheembers33
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 01.23.2017

Feb 20 @ 1:01 PM ET
Good post. I'm cautiously optimistic and think the Hawks have a decent nucleus to start from.

The Hawks need a stable RW to play with Toews and Saad. They could fill this position internally with possible options as Hayden, Sikura, or DeBrincat.

If Schmaltz stays at 2C, then 3C could be Anisimov. But if he's traded, then I'd think the Hawks would need to acquire one who can play a 200-foot game, relentless motor, and tough to play against. Highmore fits that description but not sure if he's ready or even suited to be anything above 4C. Kampf is already at 4C and I wouldn't want the bottom-6 centers to be filled by rookies.

Biggest need is on defense since I don't think that can be filled internally given the need for experienced blueliners who can play defense first, take the body, and hang back allowing a puck-moving D partner to wheel and deal. No one like that in the system.

Build out from Keith, Seabrook, Murphy (assuming he's still with the team), and Forsling which leaves 2 spots up for grabs. I imagine Oesterle will make the team if Q is still coach. That's fine as long as he's on 3rd pair (a) with a stay-at-home partner, and (b) the starting defense also doesn't include similar players as him like Gustafsson, Rutta, and Dahlstrom.

- AEL_Fox


Thanks. My thought IF the Hawks can get some luck and somehow move up in the Draft Lottery (come on NHL you've screwed us over the years throw us a bone ) to get Brady Tkachuk (and he's NHL ready) it could help add some much needed grit to this team. Maybe work a trade of Murphy and Hartman for Smith and Ceci with OTT, trade Wingels for a pick and resign him we could roll with a lineup like this next year...

Tkachuk-Schmaltz-Kane
DeBrincat-Toews-Hayden
Saad-AA-Sikura/Hinostroza/DuClair
Smith-Kampf-Wingels

Keith-Ceci
Forsling-Seabrook
Oesterle/Dahlstrom-FA/Rutta

Crow
Forsberg

That gives the team four pretty good lines with some grit spread throughout the lineup. Opens up for a possible trade of AA at some point IF Kampf and Smith both look good and you feel comfortable rolling with them as the 3rd and 4th line Centers. It could return us a Top 4 D-Man which would cover the FA signing. That's a team that could be very competitive next season. Idk we'll have to see how things fall over the next few months. There are some reasons to stay optimistic for this team going forward.
tyweb69
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.02.2012

Feb 20 @ 1:02 PM ET

- DarthKane


That never gets old. Oh wait, yeah it does.
Savetheembers33
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 01.23.2017

Feb 20 @ 1:02 PM ET
those are the GMs we should target to trade with.
- glennjpawlak22


Tanev would be an upgrade on Defense for sure (and someone the Hawks have looked at over the past year), but the price is high
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 20 @ 1:04 PM ET
People may complain about Bowman as GM, but just know there are much worse out there.



- DarthKane


So Gubr is 3 years at $4mil. Bowman traded for Murpy with 4 more years after this year at $3.85mil. At those prices who would you rather have. (and neither is not an answer).
gnosox1986
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 01.25.2012

Feb 20 @ 1:08 PM ET
We"ll never know unless the Hawks expose him to waivers by trying to send him down. Unless it is a bottom feeder team, doubt he is of much interest around the league, particularly since he has to be qualified as an RFA in the summer.
- RickJ


Thats right that we will likely never know...

I just personally believe its a hard idea to believe that a team like NJ or CLB or CAR, who are fighting for position in the east east wouldn't take a shot on him, at no cost of losing an asset like a pick. All have cap space to take on 1.2M.
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 20 @ 1:28 PM ET
Thats right that we will likely never know...

I just personally believe its a hard idea to believe that a team like NJ or CLB or CAR, who are fighting for position in the east east wouldn't take a shot on him, at no cost of losing an asset like a pick. All have cap space to take on 1.2M.

- gnosox1986


Also it does not make sense to waive him. If they trade one or more of AA, Sharp, Wingels, Bouma, Hartman there will be plenty of ice time for DuClair. Then the Hawks can really see what they have. If they like it they try to sign him. If not someone else sign him and the Hawks could pick up a 3rd round pick (If he signs for at least $1.3mil) or better if he signs for at least $2mil. (He is making $1.2mil now.)
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Feb 20 @ 2:22 PM ET
That never gets old. Oh wait, yeah it does.
- tyweb69




No....it's a great GIF.
BlazinMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.08.2013

Feb 20 @ 2:49 PM ET
No....it's a great GIF.
- DarthKane


It really is
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Feb 20 @ 3:06 PM ET
Agreed, he's a decent value for a 3C at $4M, but he's never getting better and in my opinion he's a proven non-winner. He'll never top 40 points again, and is a bit of a passenger.
- ObeseOprah


Why wouldn't he? He's been about a .5 PPG plaer wherever he's been.
Katana777
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.21.2015

Feb 20 @ 3:27 PM ET
At least I can still root against the St. Louis Blows... if they don't win the Cup this year or next year, it will B-52 years without a championship.






gnosox1986
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 01.25.2012

Feb 20 @ 3:28 PM ET
Why wouldn't he? He's been about a .5 PPG plaer wherever he's been.
- HawkintheD


In the past he had some touch to his game, Scored some on his own, made some nice passes.

.At this stage, he doesnt drive the offense on his own. To get 40 points, he needs Kane sniping and him getting 2nd assists (hence the passenger comment).

He's still a nice player, and has value, but he will be more a 30 points player, lucking into points rather than a true offensive threat. I'd wish him the best and move him to a team that can use him.

On this roster, he's just another guy.

67hawks
Joined: 08.30.2012

Feb 20 @ 3:35 PM ET
Several lottery teams involved in games today. Too bad none are playing each other. I would think they are underdogs in all the games, but hopefully we get an upset or two.
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