Q at today’s presser (trying to interpret Q speak) indicated Crow could be out for the season. That says to me that (in addition to whatever is going on with Crow health wise) they are perhaps going to use his slot and cap $$ to absorb a bad expiring contract - like maybe Fillipula? - and create some room for other potential deadlines moves. Thought they should put Crow on LTIR (and use the roster spot/cap space) since 24 days into his IR stint.
- Marlowe

I wonder if the could do just that retroactively to maximize available cap dollars?

Statsny coming off the books, in STL and his 7M cap hit, welcome in the breadman to play with his russian buddy Tarasenko
- hawkss81

Ugh... Already hate the Blues. Imagine seeing the Breadman multiple times a year against us. Well at least they are Reaves-less now.

How about Hartman and AA for Ghost and prospect?

Ah right... we need to get the bridge deals out for Schmaltz, DeBrincat, Hayden and Forsling...

Totally loved the Breadman though. The dude was absolutely electrifying. There's so many would have could have's, but I think we would have gotten far in 15-16 had we beaten the Blues in game 7 and then his playoff value wouldn't have been so questioned.
- Popsghostly

I agree. Loved the Breadman. Soon as I saw him stickhandle through three guys in one of his first games as a Hawk I knew he had what it took to be a special player and went and got his jersey. Shame his contract esclated so quickly that we had to cut our losses with him before his contract became too much and we lost him for nothing. Saad still has plenty of upside to make the trade look better. They're different types of players who play different types of games, but everyone will always look at this trade as a loss

I would also think the way we traded Panarin, and the things that were "said" about him (rumors: let up in playoffs, etc), could possibly drive i divide in that idea. Not sure if mgmt would want him back and who knows if Panarin would even consider. Top teams will be lining up to pay him.
- HawksHype

Yeah, that's a good point as well. Idk if they could really get eye to eye with one another to bring him back (and definitely not a team friendly deal). S****y part of it is that in a year he'll likely somehow end up with STL (if he doesn't resign with CLB) with his russian buddy Vlady (who wanted them to sign him in the first place).

Statsny and his 7M cap hit, coming off the books in STL, welcome in the Breadman to play with his Russian buddy Tarasenko
- hawkss81

Just was thinking the same thing

Statsny and his 7M cap hit, coming off the books in STL, welcome in the Breadman to play with his Russian buddy Tarasenko
- hawkss81

That's where I'd put my money for where Panarin lands next.

I like the 6' 3" part of him. What scares me is the 180 lbs part.
- 67hawks

Morin is 6'6" but very lanky (think Tyler Myers). Both Morin and Sanheim are tall and thin so not sure if they'd use their size (height to be more precise) to their advantage as defenders.

Nah. Just a way to express that he should get the heave-how just as much as many think Q should (I'm in the "both can go" club cause we've see a few too many years of stubbornness on both sides including the refusal of Q to figure out how to make a cake with Stan's ingredients).

I'm also of the belief that Kempny DID/DOES have upside but Q's misuse/jerking him around didn't help. A couple of blogs ago I posted a list of about 40 guys that donned the Hawks sweater playing D. Other than the guys that were already here, that list is pretty long of guys that have "cycled" through the Stan/Q system since 2010. There's a real deficiency in developing D men here, which I pointed out (other clubs have had similar problems).
- savvyone-1

Savvy, while I don't disagree that the Hawks record of developing defensemen is somewhat less than stellar, especially since Yawney's departure, the list you posted had a whole bunch of D-men that were not only not developed by the Hawks, but by nobody else either. Johns maybe is the one person on that list that has produced elsewhere, but the rest of that list is a whole bunch of never beens, never will-be's, or un-realized promise.

Bottom line is that it is tough to develop quality top 4 d-men. Most of the ones that succeed are either high draft picks, take years to develop, or both.

I wonder if the could do just that retroactively to maximize available cap dollars?
- 35Tony0

Pretty sure LTIR is retroactive. But even if it isn’t - still equals up to $6M (Crows cap hit) in salary that you can take on through the end of the season.

Q at today’s presser (trying to interpret Q speak) indicated Crow could be out for the season. That says to me that (in addition to whatever is going on with Crow health wise) they are perhaps going to use his slot and cap $$ to absorb a bad expiring contract - like maybe Fillipula? - and create some room for other potential deadlines moves. Thought they should put Crow on LTIR (and use the roster spot/cap space) since 24 days into his IR stint.
- Marlowe

I hope its because they are being smart/cautious...why bring him back to this train wreck and face 35 shots a night...and not because of setbacks

I hope its because they are being smart/cautious...why bring him back to this train wreck and face 35 shots a night...and not because of setbacks
- bogiedoc

Both probably. He hasn't been on the ice since before the arizona road trip

If the Hawks have to bite the bullet on any players salary being moved, they better be getting a nice RETURN. This would be the perfect time heading into the summer for a lot of money to come off the books with bonuses and even certain players contracts.

If the Hawks have to bite the bullet on any players salary being moved, they better be getting a nice RETURN. This would be the perfect time heading into the summer for a lot of money to come off the books with bonuses and even certain players contracts.
- frafra

RFA: duclair, hartman, jurco, hinostra, ruunta, gustafson
UFA: sharp, wingles, bouma, glasss

gone: sharp, bouma , glass, probably harman, jurco

panerin bonuses off the book

Toews needs to go back to traditional training ways. Weights, protein, weights and more protein. Only way he goes back to being a difference maker.
- z1990z

Can't the Hawks give Toews (and Seabs... and Keith... and Saad) an offseason training regiment? Send them all to Gary Roberts.

Can't the Hawks give Toews (and Seabs... and Keith... and Saad) an offseason training regiment? Send them all to Gary Roberts.
- hawkitect

For the money they make and lack of return on investment I think they should make them whether in their contract or not.

So here’s what’s in JJ’s story:

From Chicago: Artem Anisimov and Ryan Hartman for SOME COMBINATION, BUT LIKELY NOT ALL OF Val Fillipula, Michael Raffl and either Samuel Morin OR Travis Sanheim. The Hawks might also have to retain some of Anisimov’s salary. No idea whether AA has been asked to waive, but his NMC expires 7/1 anyway.

Panarin is head and shoulders above any Hawk player except Kane. He was when he was here and he is now. Scoring at a 65 point clip with no help whatsoever in Columbus is not that far away from his 74 points last year when he played with superstar Kane. His performance this year is making Bowman who got destroyed in that trade look like a complete jackass as predicted. Making everything much worse is the fact that Bowman failed miserably to replace Panarin's point production and presence on Kane's line thereby hurting Kane's point production too. Pissed off Kane does not deserve this slap in the face treatment and neither do the Hawks. Is there any doubt this malfeasance contributed more than any other issue to a one way ticket to last place.

For the money they make and lack of return on investment I think they should make them whether in their contract or not.
- tyweb69

Is that part of the country club atmosphere? Letting guys do whatever they want training wise during the off-season? Do other clubs have stricter requirements?

Not sure how much control NHL teams exert over there players during the off-season. Interesting choices made by Toews the last few years. Resulted in him being rather light on his skates these days. Kane has gone the other way. You rarely see him get knocked down or off balance. Quiet a change from the skinny kid in 2008-2012.

I'd think a trade (based on JJ has said) would look like...

AA, Hartman, and Franson

for

Sanheim, Filppula, and a Draft Pick

Hawks get more draft capital, a young D prospect who is just about NHL ready, and Filppula who they could either keep and see if he fits as an experienced veteran Center or flip to a team for more draft capital or another young prospect with salary retained.

Philly gets two veterans for the Playoffs in AA (big body who can play in front of the net to do the dirty work), an experienced D-man in Franson who can man the PP and help tutor the young kids, and a potentially gritty/skilled (depending on which player he wants to be) for build with your core.

Seems like a win-win for both teams
- Savetheembers33

The only player worth anything here is Hartman. He is an asset. He has shown that he can be a valued piece. You do not trade him, especially for periphery makes little difference pieces. If Hartman goes, I would consider insofar as it is a means toward exchanging first round picks.....

To move into a top five first round choice. It's all about if possible assembling difference makers. Hartman is a skillful enough pest each team should have. Worth keeping unless used in the sort of trade I suggest. I think this is a better option than your idea.

Maybe Hartman thinks he is a top 6 forward? He did spend all off-season with Kane and Schmaltz. I don't think the Hawks few him as that. Wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't happy with the 4th line minutes and benchings.

So here’s what’s in JJ’s story:

From Chicago: Artem Anisimov and Ryan Hartman for SOME COMBINATION, BUT LIKELY NOT ALL OF Val Fillipula, Michael Raffl and either Samuel Morin OR Travis Sanheim. The Hawks might also have to retain some of Anisimov’s salary. No idea whether AA has been asked to waive, but his NMC expires 7/1 anyway.
- walleyeb1

Are you are sold that Morin or Sanheim will be a solid bottom pair. Otherwise we receive parts which in short and long term make little improvement or difference over our systematic way fill roster spots. They are getting rid of least valuable parts. They do not even want Raffl..in return sure, give them a solid contributing pro and a skill pest guy each team would take. Win win for them, stupid deal for us.

Are you are sold that Morin or Sanheim will be a solid bottom pair. Otherwise we receive parts which in short and long term make little improvement or difference over our systematic way fill roster spots. They are getting rid of least valuable parts. They do not even want Raffl..in return sure, give them a solid contributing pro and a skill pest guy each team would take. Win win for them, stupid deal for us.
- jhawk59

Morin is still a very good prospect. But otherwise this is a dumb trade. Why would we need Raffl (a bottom 6 winger, as if we don't have plenty of those) or Filpula (UFA) WHILE also eating salary? Essentially the trade would be AA+Hartman for a prospect. That's ridiculous. But this is Bowman we're talking about so anything is plausible.

So here’s what’s in JJ’s story:

From Chicago: Artem Anisimov and Ryan Hartman for SOME COMBINATION, BUT LIKELY NOT ALL OF Val Fillipula, Michael Raffl and either Samuel Morin OR Travis Sanheim. The Hawks might also have to retain some of Anisimov’s salary. No idea whether AA has been asked to waive, but his NMC expires 7/1 anyway.
- walleyeb1

Hasn't Stan learned his lesson from a player named Morin already?

I can just see the gleam in the Philly GM eyes when his secretary goes:

"The guy who traded you two number 2 draft picks for Kimo Timmonen is on Line 2"

So now that the plan to rejuvenate Toews worked out so wel this yearl, what is the plan for next year to rejuvenate both Toews AND Saad?