not sure. i'd guess close but not quite.
- Tumbleweed

I'd think a trade (based on JJ has said) would look like...

AA, Hartman, and Franson

for

Sanheim, Filppula, and a Draft Pick

Hawks get more draft capital, a young D prospect who is just about NHL ready, and Filppula who they could either keep and see if he fits as an experienced veteran Center or flip to a team for more draft capital or another young prospect with salary retained.

Philly gets two veterans for the Playoffs in AA (big body who can play in front of the net to do the dirty work), an experienced D-man in Franson who can man the PP and help tutor the young kids, and a potentially gritty/skilled (depending on which player he wants to be) for build with your core.

Seems like a win-win for both teams

Curious as to what the UFA market will look like this summer for Defense. Anyone have a link?

I'd think a trade (based on JJ has said) would look like...

AA, Hartman, and Franson

for

Sanheim, Filppula, and a Draft Pick

Hawks get more draft capital, a young D prospect who is just about NHL ready, and Filppula who they could either keep and see if he fits as an experienced veteran Center or flip to a team for more draft capital or another young prospect with salary retained.

Philly gets two veterans for the Playoffs in AA (big body who can play in front of the net to do the dirty work), an experienced D-man in Franson who can man the PP and help tutor the young kids, and a potentially gritty/skilled (depending on which player he wants to be) for build with your core.

Seems like a win-win for both teams
- Savetheembers33

yeah, i could see something like that.

i didn't see anything saying Simmonds, Weekes, or DSP came from poor families, and nothing about any of their fathers being absent. Saw a snip about both Stewart kids being poor growing up, but again nothing about their dad not being around.

Just a weird "random" combination of things for you to list off (black, poor, no dads) if you weren't trying to make a race comment, especially since it seems the poor and no fathers thing was just a guess or stereotype
- BlazinMike

If you knew anything about that part of the city, you would know its a very troubled area. People of means generally don't stay living there long.

Since you want to make it a race thing, look up famous people from Scarborough, there is plenty. Its quite interracial. You can pick that apart too.

Curious as to what the UFA market will look like this summer for Defense. Anyone have a link?
- z1990z

Honestly the FA class next year is not great in my opinion...while I like cap relief not many of the names truly excite me...many older players...

Only JT and he will be signed back to NYI...


http://www.thehockeynews....icted-free-agents-of-2018

I'd think a trade (based on JJ has said) would look like...

AA, Hartman, and Franson

for

Sanheim, Filppula, and a Draft Pick

Hawks get more draft capital, a young D prospect who is just about NHL ready, and Filppula who they could either keep and see if he fits as an experienced veteran Center or flip to a team for more draft capital or another young prospect with salary retained.

Philly gets two veterans for the Playoffs in AA (big body who can play in front of the net to do the dirty work), an experienced D-man in Franson who can man the PP and help tutor the young kids, and a potentially gritty/skilled (depending on which player he wants to be) for build with your core.

Seems like a win-win for both teams
- Savetheembers33

This seems fairly balanced.

If I were the GM, I'd offer this to Philadelphia and offer to eat 2 million this year, 1 million next year for a #1 pick. If not, then I think the pick needs to be a 2nd rounder(Kempny fetched a third).


I believe Philly has two picks this year in the first round so this could be had.

If you knew anything about that part of the city, you would know its a very troubled area. People of means generally don't stay living there long.

Since you want to make it a race thing, look up famous people from Scarborough, there is plenty. Its quite interracial. You can pick that apart too.
- RickJ

Southside of Chicago is troubled as well, but I'm not gonna go and assume any black athlete that grew up there didn't have dads.

i guess I'm more confused by your original post. I don't know anything about Scarborough besides what you have told me today, I'm just going by what you typed, and it sounded racist when i read it. Maybe it wasn't meant that way?

I'd think a trade (based on JJ has said) would look like...

AA, Hartman, and Franson

for

Sanheim, Filppula, and a Draft Pick

Hawks get more draft capital, a young D prospect who is just about NHL ready, and Filppula who they could either keep and see if he fits as an experienced veteran Center or flip to a team for more draft capital or another young prospect with salary retained.

Philly gets two veterans for the Playoffs in AA (big body who can play in front of the net to do the dirty work), an experienced D-man in Franson who can man the PP and help tutor the young kids, and a potentially gritty/skilled (depending on which player he wants to be) for build with your core.

Seems like a win-win for both teams
- Savetheembers33

Win-win if Sanheim becomes a player for us. Otherwise, if he flames out and considering that draft picks beyond first round are crap shoots, we could end up with lots of nothing. Whereas the Flyers will have 2 NHL players beyond this year.
I am not as enthused as others about this rumor and am hoping it is baseless as it probably is.

This seems fairly balanced.

If I were the GM, I'd offer this to Philadelphia and offer to eat 2 million this year, 1 million next year for a #1 pick. If not, then I think the pick needs to be a 2nd rounder(Kempny fetched a third).


I believe Philly has two picks this year in the first round so this could be had.
- Bjm84

2M might be a bit much (it'd drop his cap hit to about 2.5M) for us to take even for a 1st with a very likely possible Seabrook buyout (or eating of salary) if he ever agrees to leave town, which I do not see happening. I'd eat maybe a 1M if it could net us an additional 1st but I'd be fine with a 2nd. All depends on if AA would even be willing to waive his NTC at all let alone to Philly.

Honestly the FA class next year is not great in my opinion...while I like cap relief not many of the names truly excite me...many older players...

Only JT and he will be signed back to NYI...


http://www.thehockeynews....icted-free-agents-of-2018
- Beaks99

I'd definitely look at Calvin De Haan. Offer him something like 4 years and 4 million per.

Win-win if Sanheim becomes a player for us. Otherwise, if he flames out and considering that draft picks beyond first round are crap shoots, we could end up with lots of nothing. Whereas the Flyers will have 2 NHL players beyond this year.
I am not as enthused as others about this rumor and am hoping it is baseless as it probably is.
- 67hawks

Good point. You'd have to be fairly convinced Sanheim could step in and be better than what we already have and make an impact right away. The cap space gained from trading AA and Filppula leaving in FA or being traded would open things up a lot for us to sign some good depth players (especially on the backend) would be huge for this team. Also depends on what draft pick we would get back. It could be huge for us or help us go further down the drain.

I'd definitely look at Calvin De Haan. Offer him something like 4 years and 4 million per.
- Bjm84

De Haan and Ian Cole are the two guys I've looked at as a definite upgrade over what we already have. The problem is that both are LHD and we really need a RHD

Is the Breadman an UFA next year? We need help on D, but that Kane-Breadman combo was awesome. If so, if we trade AA for picks, that's 5 in space... Not resigning Sharp 800,000-1 million, put Hossa on LTIR in the summer... Frees up 8ish, enough to sign the Breadman?

If did that, the top 2 lines would be-

Saad-Toews-DKat
Panarin-Schmaltz-Kane

Is the Breadman an UFA next year? We need help on D, but that Kane-Breadman combo was awesome. If so, if we trade AA for picks, that's 5 in space... Not resigning Sharp 800,000-1 million, put Hossa on LITR in the summer... Frees up 8ish, enough to sign the Breadman?
- Popsghostly

Yes, he's a UFA at the end of next season. While it could be possible I doubt it happens. In the next year or two a good chunk of our ELC's (entry league contracts) will be expiring and require pay increases (like Schmaltz, DeBrincat, Hayden, Forsling, Forsberg, etc.). Not to mention if they do free some cap space by getting AA to waive his NTC, you'd want to use that cap space to upgrade the Defense and likely the Center position as well.

Good point. You'd have to be fairly convinced Sanheim could step in and be better than what we already have and make an impact right away. The cap space gained from trading AA and Filppula leaving in FA or being traded would open things up a lot for us to sign some good depth players (especially on the backend) would be huge for this team. Also depends on what draft pick we would get back. It could be huge for us or help us go further down the drain.
- Savetheembers33

I read an article recently (Hockey News?) about Sanheim "running out of time" in the Flyers organization not necessarily because he hasn't developed well but more so because other D prospects in the system have leap frogged him on the depth chart. Sort of like an "embarrassment of riches" having several good to great blueline youngsters (Provorov, Hagg, Morin, Myers, Stolarz) but not enough roster spots now or in the future to offer. Similar situation in Carolina with Hanifin, Slavin, Pesce, Fleury, Bean, McKeown, etc.

With that said, I could see Sanheim being the young defender coming to Chicago in a trade. If Morin is one step above him (or below) on the D depth chart, then maybe that's why he is a possibility as well. Would love to have both of them but I doubt that would be a scenario.

Yes, he's a UFA at the end of next season. While it could be possible I doubt it happens. In the next year or two a good chunk of our ELC's (entry league contracts) will be expiring and require pay increases (like Schmaltz, DeBrincat, Hayden, Forsling, Forsberg, etc.). Not to mention if they do free some cap space by getting AA to waive his NTC, you'd want to use that cap space to upgrade the Defense and likely the Center position as well.
- Savetheembers33

Ah right... we need to get the bridge deals out for Schmaltz, DeBrincat, Hayden and Forsling...

Totally loved the Breadman though. The dude was absolutely electrifying. There's so many would have could have's, but I think we would have gotten far in 15-16 had we beaten the Blues in game 7 and then his playoff value wouldn't have been so questioned.

Yes, he's a UFA at the end of next season. While it could be possible I doubt it happens. In the next year or two a good chunk of our ELC's (entry league contracts) will be expiring and require pay increases (like Schmaltz, DeBrincat, Hayden, Forsling, Forsberg, etc.). Not to mention if they do free some cap space by getting AA to waive his NTC, you'd want to use that cap space to upgrade the Defense and likely the Center position as well.
- Savetheembers33

I would also think the way we traded Panarin, and the things that were "said" about him (rumors: let up in playoffs, etc), could possibly drive i divide in that idea. Not sure if mgmt would want him back and who knows if Panarin would even consider. Top teams will be lining up to pay him.

I would also think the way we traded Panarin, and the things that were "said" about him (rumors: let up in playoffs, etc), could possibly drive i divide in that idea. Not sure if mgmt would want him back and who knows if Panarin would even consider. Top teams will be lining up to pay him.
- HawksHype

They'll pay for sure. He's under 28, a Calder winner and top 10 scorer...

Just put a small piece of duct tape over it. Works every time!
- Spec41971

Awesome. Fixed.

dahlstrom is probably not a fit for us. we're heavy on the left side.

i actually think hammer might be another guy we could be targeting.
- Tumbleweed

The guy is a warrior and can play both sides. I would not be surprised if he ended up in Toronto.

Q at today’s presser (trying to interpret Q speak) indicated Crow could be out for the season. That says to me that (in addition to whatever is going on with Crow health wise) they are perhaps going to use his slot and cap $$ to absorb a bad expiring contract - like maybe Fillipula? - and create some room for other potential deadlines moves. Thought they should put Crow on LTIR (and use the roster spot/cap space) since 24 days into his IR stint.

They'll pay for sure. He's under 28, a Calder winner and top 10 scorer...
- Popsghostly

Statsny and his 7M cap hit, coming off the books in STL, welcome in the Breadman to play with his Russian buddy Tarasenko

I read an article recently (Hockey News?) about Sanheim "running out of time" in the Flyers organization not necessarily because he hasn't developed well but more so because other D prospects in the system have leap frogged him on the depth chart. Sort of like an "embarrassment of riches" having several good to great blueline youngsters (Provorov, Hagg, Morin, Myers, Stolarz) but not enough roster spots now or in the future to offer. Similar situation in Carolina with Hanifin, Slavin, Pesce, Fleury, Bean, McKeown, etc.

With that said, I could see Sanheim being the young defender coming to Chicago in a trade. If Morin is one step above him (or below) on the D depth chart, then maybe that's why he is a possibility as well. Would love to have both of them but I doubt that would be a scenario.
- AEL_Fox

I like the 6' 3" part of him. What scares me is the 180 lbs part.

I read an article recently (Hockey News?) about Sanheim "running out of time" in the Flyers organization not necessarily because he hasn't developed well but more so because other D prospects in the system have leap frogged him on the depth chart. Sort of like an "embarrassment of riches" having several good to great blueline youngsters (Provorov, Hagg, Morin, Myers, Stolarz) but not enough roster spots now or in the future to offer. Similar situation in Carolina with Hanifin, Slavin, Pesce, Fleury, Bean, McKeown, etc.

With that said, I could see Sanheim being the young defender coming to Chicago in a trade. If Morin is one step above him (or below) on the D depth chart, then maybe that's why he is a possibility as well. Would love to have both of them but I doubt that would be a scenario.
- AEL_Fox

I read the same thing. Either team have been teams I've looked at as a possible team trade our forward depth for a D prospect who could help out soon here.

I would also think the way we traded Panarin, and the things that were "said" about him (rumors: let up in playoffs, etc), could possibly drive i divide in that idea. Not sure if mgmt would want him back and who knows if Panarin would even consider. Top teams will be lining up to pay him.
- HawksHype

You must mean his "I was tired" comment in reference to the NHL playoffs - this after competing for Mother Russia in the World Cup.

Talent or not, he can go (frank) himself.
Entitled.

Same w/any of these guys with the excuse that they've played more hockey than any other human on the planet. Making millions to do so. Shut the (frank) up. Go out and work a 9-to-5 for a living and see how you like that.