@jaeckel

Details on Philly rumor ... (add Cody Franson's name as possibly involved—and, no, I don't know why

That's a good question. I'm not sure about what they have (or might have) in the works for him. I think he'll develop into a reliable guy at the NHL level.

I'm honestly wondering if they might be showcasing Dahlstrom. He's been rewarded for good play in the A and I think he's done well with the Blackhawks. Last game felt like a little bit of a breakout game for him against the Kings. He made some really nice defensive plays, but was also reading the puck well and making moves to get involved offensively, but be also be responsible defensively. In fact, it was his heads up play that contributed to the Hawks only goal.
- Hank3Henshaw

dahlstrom is probably not a fit for us. we're heavy on the left side.

i actually think hammer might be another guy we could be targeting.

@jaeckel

Details on Philly rumor here (add Cody Franson's name as possibly involved—and, no, I don't know why
- JRoenick97

https://t.co/9YwQ403is2

for who though?

draft pick? center or D prospect? I cant imagine Hartman fetching much of a return
- BlazinMike

I would think it would have to be a contract coming back. Caps are up against the salary cap more then the Hawks.

dahlstrom is probably not a fit for us. we're heavy on the left side.

i actually think hammer might be another guy we could be targeting.
- Tumbleweed

I don't think the Hawks are moving Dahlstrom.

@jaeckel

Details on Philly rumor ... (add Cody Franson's name as possibly involved—and, no, I don't know why
- JRoenick97

Maybe as a favor for the Timmo trade a few years back.

https://t.co/9YwQ403is2
- glennjpawlak22

I would not move AA for Filppula. VF is making 5 mill per year and is less physical then AA. All things considered, I don't see how that deal makes us better.

Facts.

Scarborough, Ontario. The tough side of Toronto.

And its too bad there was a pane of glass separating Smith-Pelley from getting at those 4 idiots chanting at him.
- RickJ

The players don't realize that the glass panes can be pushed up and out of their tracks. It's heavy but I've seen it done at a local rink years ago and there was one hell of a rumble. The guys taunting a player in the box don't realize it either. One of these days a player who had been a rink rat in his hometown is going to get wound up like that and I can't wait to see the jerkoffs in the crowds faces when there is no glass all of a sudden.

It's been my experience that kids from a rougher area take the structure and direction from a coach as well or better than anyone else. I can only think of one exception to that. Totally agree with the post Rick.

I wonder how a player can get confused about his role.

Maybe if it changes over time? Or is it the guy trying to branch out and do more than what he's instructed? I don't know...

I always thought that the GM/coaching staff sits down with them and says, "Hey, we need you to be (insert player type) guy for us. That's why you're here."

Cut and dry. But maybe it's not that way?
- Hank3Henshaw

I believe the people running NHL hockey teams — at every level of management, from CEOs to the assistant coaches — are no different than the people running corporations and companies through North America. Some of the managers get it and some don’t. Success or failure is often caused by the efforts and skills exhibited on the rink. But how management plans for the future and deals with and communicates during the present goes a long way to this success and should work in conjunction with the talent on the ice.

I don’t know how else to explain the mediocre results out of Edmonton year after year given the top-tier talent they’ve drafted. Conversely, it is hard to explain the success of the LVK. An example for me of an epic organization failure was what happened with the guy coaching at Rockford last year who blew a gasket because the Hawks were promoting his players. The guy failed to realize that he was just a cig in the developmental chain of the players for the NHL patent. Sure, wins for Rockford were nice, but it exists primarily to let players develop to play at a higher level.

I would not move AA for Filppula. VF is making 5 mill per year and is less physical then AA. All things considered, I don't see how that deal makes us better.
- z1990z

i would think the keys to the deal are sanheim and salary cap flexibility next year with moving out anisimov?

sanheim seems like a pretty good prospect.

i would think the keys to the deal are sanheim and salary cap flexibility next year with moving out anisimov?

sanheim seems like a pretty good prospect.
- Tumbleweed

Does Hartman get you Sanheim? Dont know anything about him.

Ok, what about the fathers thing? I did a quick search and couldn't find anything really stating that any of the players you mentioned didn't have fathers around.

Also, seems racial because every player you named was black.
- BlazinMike

The point is they were from very poor families and succeeded in making it to pro hockey without the privilege of having everything given to them along the way. There is an old article somewhere on Chris Stewart and his brother Anthony from years ago, not sure where it was written.

And to this day Kevin Weekes donates money and equipment back to that league to help poor kids (black or white) participate in the game growing up.

I would not move AA for Filppula. VF is making 5 mill per year and is less physical then AA. All things considered, I don't see how that deal makes us better.
- z1990z

If I'm not mistaken Filppula is a UFA at the end of the year so you'd be picking up about 5M in cap space which would help this team build some much needed depth. Depends on what the rest of the pieces around the deal would be as well. If it helps bring us a potential Top 4 D-Man and cap space going into next season I think that could be a huge win for the Hawks

I would not move AA for Filppula. VF is making 5 mill per year and is less physical then AA. All things considered, I don't see how that deal makes us better.
- z1990z

VF has an expiring contract. Plus Sanheim is has good upside as a D prospect and is just about NHL ready.

I would do this trade.

Nah. Just a way to express that he should get the heave-how just as much as many think Q should (I'm in the "both can go" club cause we've seen a few too many years of stubbornness on both sides including the refusal of Q to figure out how to make a cake with Stan's ingredients).

I'm also of the belief that Kempny DID/DOES have upside but Q's misuse/jerking him around didn't help. A couple of blogs ago I posted a list of about 40 guys that donned the Hawks sweater playing D. Other than the guys that were already here, that list is pretty long of guys that have "cycled" through the Stan/Q system since 2010. There's a real deficiency in developing D men here, which I pointed out (other clubs have had similar problems).
- savvyone-1

On this, we agree. The fact that our top four in 2015 were either in place by 2010 or brought in externally shows a real problem. Pitt got Matta, and they have had as bad of draft positioning as the Hawks.

Assuming we fire Bowman, I have a hard time choosing a new GM. The only guy I really respect is Yzerman in TB. He has assembled a powerful squad and signed good players to reasonable contracts. His handling of the Drouin situation was superb.

VF has an expiring contract. Plus Sanheim is has good upside as a D prospect and is just about NHL ready.

I would do this trade.
- Bjm84

K. Wasn't aware that VF was going to be a UFA at the end of the year. That changes everything then. Wonder if Sanheim is the goal of that trade then?

K. Wasn't aware that VF was going to be a UFA at the end of the year. That changes everything then. Wonder if Sanheim is the goal of that trade then?
- z1990z

For sure, would have to be or else the trade is downright theft.

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I think the kids who run those lemonade stands would find this offensive
- Abadseed

I had the same thought when I read this!

I wish I could get the specifics but several years ago someone criticized another person — don’t recall whether it was an athlete, a politician or business person — by saying something to the effect that the person was a “whore”. When pressed later about the comment and after being asked if he wanted to retract the statement and apologize, he did say something to he effect that he wished to “apologize to any whores” who were offended by being associated with the the person the insult was directed at.

Does Hartman get you Sanheim? Dont know anything about him.
- z1990z

not sure. i'd guess close but not quite.

The point is they were from very poor families and succeeded in making it to pro hockey without the privilege of having everything given to them along the way. There is an old article somewhere on Chris Stewart and his brother Anthony from years ago, not sure where it was written.

And to this day Kevin Weekes donates money and equipment back to that league to help poor kids (black or white) participate in the game growing up.
- RickJ

i didn't see anything saying Simmonds, Weekes, or DSP came from poor families, and nothing about any of their fathers being absent. Saw a snip about both Stewart kids being poor growing up, but again nothing about their dad not being around.

Just a weird "random" combination of things for you to list off (black, poor, no dads) if you weren't trying to make a race comment, especially since it seems the poor and no fathers thing was just a guess or stereotype

haha. Felt so old for saying that.

Also, pretty p*ssed that my VCR light is still blinking.
- Justin Lowe

Just put a small piece of duct tape over it. Works every time!

On this, we agree. The fact that our top four in 2015 were either in place by 2010 or brought in externally shows a real problem. Pitt got Matta, and they have had as bad of draft positioning as the Hawks.

Assuming we fire Bowman, I have a hard time choosing a new GM. The only guy I really respect is Yzerman in TB. He has assembled a powerful squad and signed good players to reasonable contracts. His handling of the Drouin situation was superb.
- TexasHawk

There's a lot of GMs I respect, Jarmo in Columbus has worked some great deals. McPhee in Vegas did a great job at the draft. Sweeney in Boston went from total turd 2 years ago to retool genius this year. Nill and Holland both automatically get respect from their Detroit tenure IMO. Chevy in Winnipeg has done ok at drafting talent and somehow luring a player or two to Winnipeg. Rutherford in Pitt deserves a ton of credit.

There's a lot of GMs I respect, Jarmo in Columbus has worked some great deals. McPhee in Vegas did a great job at the draft. Sweeney in Boston went from total turd 2 years ago to retool genius this year. Nill and Holland both automatically get respect from their Detroit tenure IMO. Chevy in Winnipeg has done ok at drafting talent and somehow luring a player or two to Winnipeg. Rutherford in Pitt deserves a ton of credit.
- ObeseOprah

Pretty sure Holland is much reviled in Detroit these days.

If I'm not mistaken Filppula is a UFA at the end of the year so you'd be picking up about 5M in cap space which would help this team build some much needed depth. Depends on what the rest of the pieces around the deal would be as well. If it helps bring us a potential Top 4 D-Man and cap space going into next season I think that could be a huge win for the Hawks
- Savetheembers33

He is so that would likely be a dump

Yep - would be a great target. He's a good guy as well. Played a round of golf with him and Steve Spott (who had coached him on one of the National Teams) a few years back.
- Justin Lowe

So, J-Lowe, I like a good golf story as much as the next guy. However, I was wondering if you would be willing to, say, compromise your journalistic integrity and just make up a few rumors for us. Just little rumors, they don't even have to be good ones.

Plz.

<3,
Tex