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arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 20 @ 10:34 AM ET
That's great the hockeybuzzers complain about him...it has no bearing how the team feels about him.

Manning is in the top 6 on defense right now. Going into the playoffs I am not sure i want to add a rookie in Sanheim into the mix unless he comes up soon and gets more games in.

I know your not just subtracting but it has to be the right add.

- J35Bacher


It’s not just hockeybuzz. It’s any medium that covers the Flyers from The Athletic to BSH podcasts. Manning is statistically our worst defenseman, commits the most errors out of any d man, has the worst +/- amongst d man, etc. I guess the day to defend Manning has come to Hockeybuzz
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 20 @ 10:35 AM ET
Simmonds out 2-3 weeks
- aightwebang17



hand injury?
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 20 @ 10:35 AM ET
Makes sense. He played well against the Rags and it gives Mrazek the benefit of having a practice with the team and a chance to get to know his new Dmen a bit before starting a game.
- BiggE


Let him watch how the team plays tonight, practice with them tomorrow and then go against Bob on Thursday.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 20 @ 10:35 AM ET
So talking today wouldn't be considered "limited time" as I said? Just keep it simple if he's in the net today.
- ClaudeFather


I agree with you.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 20 @ 10:36 AM ET
It’s not just hockeybuzz. It’s any medium that covers the Flyers from The Athletic to BSH podcasts. Manning is statistically our worst defenseman, commits the most errors out of any d man, has the worst +/- amongst d man, etc. I guess the day to defend Manning has come to Hockeybuzz
- arichardson22


If we're using +- as our beacon sanheim was by far the worst and manning is only 1 worse than gudas.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Feb 20 @ 10:37 AM ET
solid move. Unless he poops the bed no reason not to resign him to a 2 year deal. Then trade/buyout glassman. buy out would be very low I think.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 20 @ 10:37 AM ET
I have a question that I know I'm absolutely going to be roasted for but here I go.

In my opinion, accepting this trade was a no brainer the first time it was offered. Mrazek is younger than both Elliot and Neuvirth. There is still a ceiling to reach with him. So is Hextall a genius for making this deal, should Mrazek play lights out or is it dumb luck because our goalies got hurt and he didn't accept it when he should have?

- SuperSchennBros


It's neither.
He made a virtually zero-risk move necessitated by injury. Without injuries, there was no need to make a move.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 20 @ 10:37 AM ET
G coots to
Jake Patrick weal
Lindblom Laughton raffl
Lehtera filp Weise

D the same

Lyon
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Feb 20 @ 10:38 AM ET
hand injury?
- MBFlyerfan

Upper Body
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 20 @ 10:39 AM ET
Simmonds out 2-3 weeks with a UBI

Lyon tonight

sorry if Leight
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 20 @ 10:39 AM ET
If we're using +- as our beacon sanheim was by far the worst and manning is only 1 worse than gudas.
- Tfaehner


I’m just using any stat to prove statistically Manning is our worst d man, bc it’s a fact, and it’s an area we can improve for the playoffs. Yes Gudas is 1 better but has played 10 less (at least) games with suspension. Sanheim is a rookie and I’d say has better puck movement / offensive skills than Manning.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 20 @ 10:41 AM ET
I’m just using any stat to prove statistically Manning is our worst d man, bc it’s a fact, and it’s an area we can improve for the playoffs. Yes Gudas is 1 better but has played 10 less (at least) games with suspension. Sanheim is a rookie and I’d say has better puck movement / offensive skills than Manning.
- arichardson22


They've played the same amount of games cause of manning being scratched for sanheim. If we're arguing if sanheim is a better player he unequivocally is. If we're asking if he's the better fit for what they ask of manning he isnt.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 20 @ 10:42 AM ET
I’m just using any stat to prove statistically Manning is our worst d man, bc it’s a fact, and it’s an area we can improve for the playoffs. Yes Gudas is 1 better but has played 10 less (at least) games with suspension. Sanheim is a rookie and I’d say has better puck movement / offensive skills than Manning.
- arichardson22



All true. I just have a feeling Sanheim gets manhandled in the playoffs. He needs to add some raw strength to his frame in order to make the next step.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 20 @ 10:45 AM ET
Simmonds out 2-3 weeks with a UBI

Lyon tonight

sorry if Leight

- nastyflyergirl


I wonder if lindblom gets pp1 chance of if they move Patrick there
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Feb 20 @ 10:47 AM ET
No. We're on a playoff run in not selling off players for average picks. Manning is asked to play the pk and a defensive first game. Wisniewski isn't going to fill that role any better. We have plenty of picks. If we change that position it needs to be an upgrade or an internal call up
- Tfaehner

I wouldn't touch Wisniewski has barely had any even strength shifts in the Olympic tournament so far if any. His skating won't allow him to be effective at the NHL level only thing he would upgrade is PP2, I'd rather have Manning and that says a lot lol. Ideally Flyers could call up Sanheim and upgrade from within, no need to trade any assets in that scenario and Sanheim is too good for the minors anyway
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 20 @ 10:49 AM ET
I wouldn't touch Wisniewski has barely had any even strength shifts in the Olympic tournament so far if any. His skating won't allow him to be effective at the NHL level only thing he would upgrade is PP2, I'd rather have Manning and that says a lot lol
- FreshFlyer


Exactly. I don't get it we are selling off people who are a part of a winning lineup. I get they aren't rock stars but we aren't mortgaging the future for a cup run. Guys like wisniewski aren't in the Nhl for a reason
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Feb 20 @ 10:52 AM ET
As if Simmonds' injury werent enough... now Linbdblob won't be replacing Wieseblob or Lehterablob.

Le Sigh.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Feb 20 @ 10:54 AM ET
Simmonds out 2-3 weeks with a UBI

Lyon tonight

sorry if Leight

- nastyflyergirl



Ugh...that sucks..Simmonds is a big loss in a lit of ways..

Excited to see OL though.
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Feb 20 @ 10:54 AM ET
As if Simmonds' injury werent enough... now Linbdblob won't be replacing Wieseblob or Lehterablob.

Le Sigh.

- Doc_Sarcasm

I have a feeling that he will be when Simmonds returns.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 20 @ 10:55 AM ET
Simmonds out 2-3 weeks
- aightwebang17

(frank)
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Feb 20 @ 10:56 AM ET
Ugh...that sucks..Simmonds is a big loss in a lit of ways..

Excited to see OL though.

- opeth_pa

It is but considering its the stretch drive to the playoffs I think we see Simmonds back in 2 weeks which isn't all that bad. And it allows Lindblom to secure a spot on the team as long as he plays well.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 20 @ 10:58 AM ET
All true. I just have a feeling Sanheim gets manhandled in the playoffs. He needs to add some raw strength to his frame in order to make the next step.
- MBFlyerfan

If he can get healthy and put together a few good games in a row, I’d bring up Morin and put him in the lineup over Manning.

No one is gonna manhandle the big guy and at the very least he should improve the PK and provide a physical element that no other Dman on this team can come close to providing.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 20 @ 10:59 AM ET
If he can get healthy and put together a few good games in a row, I’d bring up Morin and put him in the lineup over Manning.

No one is gonna manhandle the big guy and at the very least he should improve the PK and provide a physical element that no other Dman on this team can come close to providing.

- BiggE


I would love it but I don't see it. He needs to get healthy. I also don't think even if he was recalled that hak would play him over manning
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Feb 20 @ 11:00 AM ET
Upper Body
- aightwebang17

Gives him some time to put in some LEG WORK at the gym
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 20 @ 11:04 AM ET
Upper Body
- aightwebang17


Might be shoulder/chest muscle after rewatching fight. He kind winced after they were separated and touches that area.
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