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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 20 @ 3:52 PM ET
we should offer Brandon Manning to Toronto for JVR
- 2Real


If we're gonna go all out, I say we call up Edmonton and offer Manning for McDavid and a few 1sts.
Doctor DOOM
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Where the bad things are
Joined: 12.13.2017

Feb 20 @ 3:52 PM ET
FA signings have never been a strong suit of the Flyers. Who was the last FA signing that came from another organization who lived up to expectations? Danny B?
- SimmerDown

Elliott lived up to mine but they weren't sky high to begin with.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 20 @ 3:52 PM ET
Send him to a Pacific Team

He’s in the Oilers heads

- Nucker101


I really, really thought that Calgary would have some interest in him just for that reason.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 20 @ 3:54 PM ET
Sadly, I won't be able to check, I'm about to leave work and go relieve my wife. First solo day taking care of both my daughter and my 7-day-old son.
- jmatchett383


congrats!
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 20 @ 3:56 PM ET
JvR would have had a long wait to be with them. He got traded because he was a spare part at the time of that deal. Change of scenery helped him a lot.
- dragonoffrost

I don't agree with this at all. One season later we traded for Simon Gagne to fill the void.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 20 @ 3:56 PM ET
Let it go man, the ban hammer will get him again soon enough.
- flyer_nutter


Were I in charge there'd be a small handful of folks getting a vacation. Nobody dances alone here.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 20 @ 3:59 PM ET
FA signings have never been a strong suit of the Flyers. Who was the last FA signing that came from another organization who lived up to expectations? Danny B?
- SimmerDown


That Jagr guy was pretty good.
Talbot had a huge year when we signed him, definitely overachieved.
Nick Schultz, on his first Flyers contract. Same with MDZ.
Lappy was good, so was Blair Betts the first year.

Most of their FA acquisitions have been for league-average goalies and bottom-6 players, so it's not like there are many Briere-level signings.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:00 PM ET
Were I in charge there'd be a small handful of folks getting a vacation. Nobody dances alone here.
- Scoob


Just like in hockey, the ref always catches the retaliation.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 20 @ 4:01 PM ET
That Jagr guy was pretty good.
Talbot had a huge year when we signed him.
Nick Schultz, on his first Flyers contract. Same with MDZ.
Lappy was good, so was Blair Betts the first year.

- jmatchett383

Don't forget about how fresh Boyd Gordon kept Giroux
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:01 PM ET
I really, really thought that Calgary would have some interest in him just for that reason.
- jmatchett383


It’s killing Burkie that it hasn’t happened yet
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 20 @ 4:02 PM ET
It's very possible that Simmonds has been struggling with physical issues all season so this 2-3 week break could do wonders for him depending on what the issues have been. Maybe we see a different Simmonds when he returns for the stretch drive.
- MJL

Agree with this, definitely
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:02 PM ET
Don't forget about how fresh Boyd Gordon kept Giroux
- YuenglingJagr


He sure did win some faceoffs.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 20 @ 4:03 PM ET
Just like in hockey, the ref always catches the retaliation.
- jmatchett383

It's clearly the fault of the 24 other people that have no issues conversing about hockey amongst themselves
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:03 PM ET
congrats!
- Scoob


Thanks.

I was very upset with my wife that she didn't go into labor the day of the Superbowl. She almost cost them the game.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 20 @ 4:03 PM ET
I don't agree with this at all. One season later we traded for Simon Gagne to fill the void.
- SuperSchennBros


You don't trade JvR for Schenn unless you had the surplus at wing which they did have...

Hartnell, Simmonds, Voracek, Jagr were all hoped to be back in 2012 but they Jerked around Jagr while trying to sign Suter and Jagr went elsewhere. If you had those 4 wingers on your top 2 lines you have no huge need for JvR.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:05 PM ET
You don't trade JvR for Schenn unless you had the surplus at wing which they did have...

Hartnell, Simmonds, Voracek, Jagr were all hoped to be back in 2012 but they Jerked around Jagr while trying to sign Suter and Jagr went elsewhere. If you had those 4 wingers on your top 2 lines you have no huge need for JvR.

- dragonoffrost


Exactly. They operated under the assumption that they had a surplus at forward (and remember, JvR missed a huge chunk of that season). It just didn't work out that way in the end.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 20 @ 4:05 PM ET
Thanks.

I was very upset with my wife that she didn't go into labor the day of the Superbowl. She almost cost them the game.

- jmatchett383

Did you name him Malkin Crosby Matchett
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:05 PM ET
It's clearly the fault of the 24 other people that have no issues conversing about hockey amongst themselves
- YuenglingJagr


We're all just a bunch of bullies, clearly.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 20 @ 4:06 PM ET
One thing to remember is that the first offer was just a RUMOR. Can it be confirmed that Detroit wanted a 3rd and the deal was done?
- SimmerDown

You know. This is fair and you're right. However, if the reports are true and Hextall did originally reject this trade, Hextall tripped and fell on to a possibly better goaltending situation than we started this season with. Both for now and the future.

I like this trade. I can't believe he would say no to it the first time it was offered. Outside of the Coburn trade, I can't think of a Hextall trade that improves the product on the ice today and moving forward until now.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 20 @ 4:06 PM ET
Exactly. They operated under the assumption that they had a surplus at forward (and remember, JvR missed a huge chunk of that season). It just didn't work out that way in the end.
- jmatchett383


Everyone looks at the deal in a vacuum but the reality was it was a larger picture at play kinda like the Brayden Schenn to STL deal. Schenn for Lehtera is ugly but you absorb Lehtera to get the second first rounder.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:06 PM ET
Did you name him Malkin Crosby Matchett
- YuenglingJagr


No, my wife did ask me how I felt about calling him Sidney. I said that his middle name would have to be Sucks.

Logan James
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 20 @ 4:08 PM ET
No, my wife did ask me how I felt about calling him Sidney. I said that his middle name would have to be Sucks.

Logan James

- jmatchett383

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 20 @ 4:08 PM ET
It’s killing Burkie that it hasn’t happened yet
- Nucker101

It's killing we haven't conversed yet
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 20 @ 4:09 PM ET
Just like in hockey, the ref always catches the retaliation.
- jmatchett383


I see all and I don't need a lengthy review to confirm my original call.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:10 PM ET
You know. This is fair and you're right. However, if the reports are true and Hextall did originally reject this trade, Hextall tripped and fell on to a possibly better goaltending situation than we started this season with. Both for now and the future.

I like this trade. I can't believe he would say no to it the first time it was offered. Outside of the Coburn trade, I can't think of a Hextall trade that improves the product on the ice today and moving forward until now.

- SuperSchennBros


Gagner for Grossmann+Pronger helped both in the present and future.
Weal for Schenn and VLC is a win for me, but they didn't let Weal play forever.
As much as we moan about Filppula, getting him plus picks for Streit was a win because Streit was a net minus.

But in general, you are right, Hexy has viewed the long haul over the present in his trades.
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