Yea he's got a pretty bad team but there seems to be an awful lot of situations this season where he'd normally be able to skate himself out of trouble but his step/speed just isn't there.

Ottawa isn't giving him up for anything short of a kings ransom, and they shouldn't, that's why he's a bullet.
- markmark

He might not be 100%. His offseason wasn't ideal. The question is whether or not that is permanent or not.

Ottawa wouldn't move him to Toronto anyway but if the option was to waste assets on overrated, old, poopty D or Karlsson, at least with Karlsson you're getting a Norris winner.

Because you're foolish assuming his value will go to zero.

And he was better than Dermott last year, better than Rosen, maybe better than Borgman too.
- Unholy_Goalie

Oh

just want to point out that Gardiner is really bad - not going to win any cups with him on your team.
in particular 0 use for him after current season with dermott there.
- MaximusAurelius

Dermot doesn't replace gardiner.
No scientific proof that having gardiner on your team means you wont win a cup.
Yes the two teams he's been on did not or have not won yet cups....yet. playoffs haven't started

Gardiner at 4m per is great.......gardiner at 6-7m per....not as easy to stomach

He might not be 100%. His offseason wasn't ideal. The question is whether or not that is permanent or not.

Ottawa wouldn't move him to Toronto anyway but if the option was to waste assets on overrated, old, poopty D or Karlsson, at least with Karlsson you're getting a Norris winner.
- Unholy_Goalie

Yep. Just sketchy with it being achilles AND ankle on one foot.

Leafs can just pray Doughty finds his way to FA then throw a wad of cash his way.

Oh
- Tumbleweed

Borgman and Rosen are both undrafted and over 22 years old. Guess we gotta give up on them too.

Yep. Just sketchy with it being achilles AND ankle on one foot.

Leafs can just pray Doughty finds his way to FA then throw a wad of cash his way.
- markmark

Pretty sure he already publicly said Toronto isn't an option for him. And LA can always offer him more money with that extra year the Leafs can't give him.

Because you're foolish assuming his value will go to zero.

And he was better than Dermott last year, better than Rosen, maybe better than Borgman too.
- Unholy_Goalie

oh good, the normal crazy UG is back..

Rosen and Borgman were not on the Leafs last year..

oh good, the normal crazy UG is back..

Rosen and Borgman were not on the Leafs last year..
- PatC80

Didn't say they were.

Pretty sure he already publicly said Toronto isn't an option for him. And LA can always offer him more money with that extra year the Leafs can't give him.
- Unholy_Goalie

Oh did he? Wasn't aware.

Only comments I've heard from him are that he believes he deserves a lot more than PK and won't take anything less.

Didn't say they were.
- Unholy_Goalie

And he was better than Dermott last year, better than Rosen, maybe better than Borgman too.
- Unholy_Goalie

What does the above state?

What does the above state?
- PatC80

He means he's better than them this year and was better than Dermott was last year. It's pretty clear.

What does the above state?
- PatC80

That he was better than Dermott last year and he's better than Rosen and maybe Borgman too.

Oh did he? Wasn't aware.

Only comments I've heard from him are that he believes he deserves a lot more than PK and won't take anything less.
- markmark

Something along the lines about being able to walk around LA and not be bothered which would never happen in Toronto.

They'd have to acquire him in a trade.

What does the above state?
- PatC80

That he's wrong. Anyone who watched Marlies games knows Dermott was and always has been the better player.

new blog everyone

He might not be 100%. His offseason wasn't ideal. The question is whether or not that is permanent or not.

Ottawa wouldn't move him to Toronto anyway but if the option was to waste assets on overrated, old, poopty D or Karlsson, at least with Karlsson you're getting a Norris winner.
- Unholy_Goalie

If the Leafs were to give Karlsson a huge contract and he doesn't rebound from his current sub-Karlsson level of play, you would be the absolute first guy to lose your poop and call for the heads of Leafs management.

"How could they give away our future for a guy with a bad limb? Who gives a poop if he won a Norris Trophy for Ottawa - how does that help the Leafs? Owen Nolan!!!! Tom Kurvers!"

He means he's better than them this year and was better than Dermott was last year. It's pretty clear.
- AdamFrench

oh, I must have missed the "this year" part. Maybe, somewhere in the back.?

oh, I must have missed the "this year" part. Maybe, somewhere in the back.?
- PatC80

The players weren't a part of the organization last year and now are in the AHL this year along with Neilson. Seems pretty clear if you aren't trying to poop on him.

That he's wrong. Anyone who watched Marlies games knows Dermott was and always has been the better player.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Must be why Nielsen scored more than he did and has an NHL frame.

Dermot doesn't replace gardiner.
No scientific proof that having gardiner on your team means you wont win a cup.
Yes the two teams he's been on did not or have not won yet cups....yet. playoffs haven't started

Gardiner at 4m per is great.......gardiner at 6-7m per....not as easy to stomach
- Fakepartofme

The 1 tram he's been on....

He might not be 100%. His offseason wasn't ideal. The question is whether or not that is permanent or not.

Ottawa wouldn't move him to Toronto anyway but if the option was to waste assets on overrated, old, poopty D or Karlsson, at least with Karlsson you're getting a Norris winner.
- Unholy_Goalie

Randy Carlisle won a Norris no?

Must be why Nielsen scored more than he did and has an NHL frame.
- Unholy_Goalie

Must be why Nielsen scored more than he did and has an NHL frame.
- Unholy_Goalie

I know I've said this to you before, but you should really try to actually watch the people you try to argue about, play the game.

But I guess you're too busy getting into arguments with every single person on here to actually watch games.

I know I've said this to you before, but you should really try to actually watch the people you try to argue about, play the game.

But I guess you're too busy getting into arguments with every single person on here to actually watch games.
- GreatGigInTheSky

It's really cute that you think I haven't watched Nielsen play. But I guess it's easier for you to write your own narrative than deal with the truth.

It's really cute that you think I haven't watched Nielsen play. But I guess it's easier for you to write your own narrative than deal with the truth.
- Unholy_Goalie

these people are more delusional than ever!!