http://www.post-gazette.c...line/stories/201802190178

Mackey reporting Pens showing interest in Grabner. I like him, but not a guy I want to spend a 1st on.

Been waiting for like 2 weeks to write this... this is from my ONLY "source" in the NHL haha From the same guy that told me "domi is 100% available" and followed it up with "watch and see it will get out soon enough but im telling you hes 100% available". I posted it in a write up in here about 3 weeks ago and almost everybody questioned me but now I think its clear there is definitely talks going on for him. This guys and NHL pro scout and its not for the penguins or coyotes. Thats all I can say apparently. Anyways...

He said on Domi: Very good hands, competes as hard as anyone, very strong on his skates, can stick handle in a phone booth but sometimes keeps it to long. Can get lost at times trying to do to much. Set up guy passes 1st looks for shot 2nd. Not a hard shot but lets it go quick. His game is very similar to the way crosby plays. Bulldog mentality. Not afraid of the dirty areas at all. Easily a 3rd line player now and definitely has the potential to be a 1st line player. Think 15 goals 35 assists for the next 10 years. Most likely going to be a LWer but hes 22 and has the game and compete level to play center. If he gets let go for a late 1st and average roster player the coyotes I think will regret it. That would be a steal IMO.
- pens4life-66

Remind us again what kinda kings random you were going to offer for Domi

Not really cus I can’t afford to go out to eat. I can tell you all about poophole bars in the area though.

EDIT: My parents took us to this place called Matchbox in Chinatown that was pretty good. I’ve heard great things about Dukes Grocery (burger place) but not really sure where it is.
- Victoro311

sorry didn't realize that. You should at least try Bens chili bowl in honor of The Phil.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/penguins/2018/02/19/rangers-michael-grabner-penguins-rumors-nhl-trade-deadline/stories/201802190178

Mackey reporting Pens showing interest in Grabner. I like him, but not a guy I want to spend a 1st on.
- Tojo.

I'd have no problem with it. If it helps win a 3rd cup in a row, technically there is no such thing as too much for a rental.

It's not like the Pens are crying poor for youth in the system and trading their low 1st rounder will impact them enough to send them into years of regret. Even the Hossa deal which gave up a lot more didn't register as even speed bump to their system depth.

He's a skilled speedster who showed over the past two seasons he can put the puck in the net, and if adding that to a team with players like Hagelin, Kessel, Rust and even Sheary, the Pens game that is based on speed and attack will only be that much better. I can only imagine how much better he'll look with players like Malkin and Crosby skating with him..

If GMJR makes a trade to get him, I'm sure he'll be confident that adding what Grabner possess can only be better for this years team's cup chances. That's what it's all about, right?

I'd have no problem with it. If it helps win a 3rd cup in a row, technically there is no such thing as too much for a rental.

It's not like the Pens are crying poor for youth in the system and trading their low 1st rounder will impact them enough to send them into years of regret. Even the Hossa deal which gave up a lot more didn't register as even speed bump to their system depth.

He's a skilled speedster who showed over the past two seasons he can put the puck in the net, and if adding that to a team with players like Hagelin, Kessel, Rust and even Sheary, the Pens game that is based on speed and attack will only be that much better. I can only imagine how much better he'll look with players like Malkin and Crosby skating with him..

If GMJR makes a trade to get him, I'm sure he'll be confident that adding what Grabner possess can only be better for this years team's cup chances. That's what it's all about, right?
- NJPensfan

Not to mention:

- 1st round pick to TO for Kessel

- 1st round pick to Oilers for Perron

- 2nd round pick (2013) for Crankshaft

- 2nd round pick (2014) for Crankshaft

- 2nd round pick for Winnik

Not to mention:

- 1st round pick to TO for Kessel

- 1st round pick to Oilers for Perron

- 2nd round pick (2013) for Crankshaft

- 2nd round pick (2014) for Crankshaft

- 2nd round pick for Winnik
- MattStrat

Pens managed to get Jarry in that round in spite of that horrendous trade

Pens managed to get Jarry in that round in spite of that horrendous trade

- all-pgh

Helps that we got that 2nd back for Tyler Kennedy.

Pens managed to get Jarry in that round in spite of that horrendous trade

- all-pgh

Indeed.

Admittedly, while I remembered all of those trades I listed, I couldn't quite remember the details and years....found this pretty cool site for tracking that stuff

http://www.nhltradetracke...eam/Pittsburgh_Penguins/1

I'd have no problem with it. If it helps win a 3rd cup in a row, technically there is no such thing as too much for a rental.

It's not like the Pens are crying poor for youth in the system and trading their low 1st rounder will impact them enough to send them into years of regret. Even the Hossa deal which gave up a lot more didn't register as even speed bump to their system depth.

He's a skilled speedster who showed over the past two seasons he can put the puck in the net, and if adding that to a team with players like Hagelin, Kessel, Rust and even Sheary, the Pens game that is based on speed and attack will only be that much better. I can only imagine how much better he'll look with players like Malkin and Crosby skating with him..

If GMJR makes a trade to get him, I'm sure he'll be confident that adding what Grabner possess can only be better for this years team's cup chances. That's what it's all about, right?
- NJPensfan

I got no problems doing it for the right player, but to me Grabner doesn't add enough for a 1st. If we trade our 1st, I'm hoping it's for a guy with a little term. Grabner has a crazy inflated goal total, but we already have a couple similar guys in Rust and Hagelin. It sounds great, but with all our wing depth doesn't feel necessary.

I'd have no problem with it. If it helps win a 3rd cup in a row, technically there is no such thing as too much for a rental.

It's not like the Pens are crying poor for youth in the system and trading their low 1st rounder will impact them enough to send them into years of regret. Even the Hossa deal which gave up a lot more didn't register as even speed bump to their system depth.

He's a skilled speedster who showed over the past two seasons he can put the puck in the net, and if adding that to a team with players like Hagelin, Kessel, Rust and even Sheary, the Pens game that is based on speed and attack will only be that much better. I can only imagine how much better he'll look with players like Malkin and Crosby skating with him..

If GMJR makes a trade to get him, I'm sure he'll be confident that adding what Grabner possess can only be better for this years team's cup chances. That's what it's all about, right?
- NJPensfan

I'm not sure Grabber would be a good fit with either Crosby or Malkin. He doesn't play a give and go game and his assist totals reflect that. The best option for him would be to play on the 3rd line and move Kessel to 1 of the top 2 lines. His high shooting percentage and empty net goals make me a bit nervous about overpaying for him

I'm not sure Grabber would be a good fit with either Crosby or Malkin. He doesn't play a give and go game and his assist totals reflect that. The best option for him would be to play on the 3rd line and move Kessel to 1 of the top 2 lines. His high shooting percentage and empty net goals make me a bit nervous about overpaying for him
- willi

The thing I'll say for his goal totals is his 17 ES goals without empty netters would be 2nd to Malkin's 20, but yeah, most of his offense is in transition where we like the cycle game. But on a better possession team (Rangers are awful) that may improve. Just seems like a luxury more than a need.

how the hell does Grabner only have 6 assists this year. thats a little alarming, no?

For psychological purposes just imagine Pageau as our 3rd C and Sheahan in the 4th C then lol

Anyway Domi is growing on me. We should go after the 22 yo C/Wing.
- Barnaby36

I don't know have any clue what it would take to get Domi.

Coyotes would be selling very low. He's had a rough year and, despite his great rookie year, his offense has dropped off and seems to turn the puck over a fair amount.

Pens would hope he's their 3rd line C but can also play LW. I'd pay more for Brassard as that is more of a 'sure thing' for the next two cup runs. But Domi would probably be my next target of rumored available players...

Indeed.

Admittedly, while I remembered all of those trades I listed, I couldn't quite remember the details and years....found this pretty cool site for tracking that stuff

http://www.nhltradetracke...eam/Pittsburgh_Penguins/1
- MattStrat

This was actually pretty neat to look back at all those deals. Billy Geurin for a 5th round pick? wow

I did notice the Eric Fehr trade. (Fehr + Olesky + 4th rd pick for Corrado). Makes me think it will take something similiar to move Hunwick.

how the hell does Grabner only have 6 assists this year. thats a little alarming, no?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Cy Young year

This was actually pretty neat to look back at all those deals. Billy Geurin for a 5th round pick? wow

I did notice the Eric Fehr trade. (Fehr + Olesky + 4th rd pick for Corrado). Makes me think it will take something similiar to move Hunwick.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Haha yeah its a great resource to look over...I went right back to the 80's for the Pens. Its wild that cash used to be able to be used in trades hahah

That trade with TO is the definition of salary dumps haha

I don't know have any clue what it would take to get Domi.

Coyotes would be selling very low. He's had a rough year and, despite his great rookie year, his offense has dropped off and seems to turn the puck over a fair amount.

Pens would hope he's their 3rd line C but can also play LW. I'd pay more for Brassard as that is more of a 'sure thing' for the next two cup runs. But Domi would probably be my next target of rumored available players...
- YouMeAndDupuis9

I think the Yotes GM is too young for the job over there, which is a real shame because I’m generally a fan when people break through the age barrier and excell at old people jobs. He was supposed to be an analytic mind but over half his moves have been anything but analytically sound, which leads me to believe he’s a dear in the headlights and easily influenced by voices around him. He definitely falls under the category of GMs I’d feel comfortable dealing with if I were on the other side of the phone.

For psychological purposes just imagine Pageau as our 3rd C and Sheahan in the 4th C then lol

Anyway Domi is growing on me. We should go after the 22 yo C/Wing.
- Barnaby36

But Sheahan is a lot better so that wouldn’t be the case...

Nice haha, did you get a Fleury Vegas Jersey?
- 668710

No, I want one though

But Sheahan is a lot better so that wouldn’t be the case...
- Victoro311

I think Pageau at 4C would be excellent....ignoring his dollar amounts and contract, that is. Just think McKeggs speed but much better hands (shot and passing), tenacity and IQ.

how the hell does Grabner only have 6 assists this year. thats a little alarming, no?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

It's definitely alarming. I think a bunch of his goals are EN too. He's been known to go stone cold in the goal scoring department. I've advocated for the Pens to get him for years, but not for a 1st as an UFA.

Every time I see a guy with hardly any assists, I want no part of him playing in our top 6. I want skilled passers playing with our elite centers.

I got no problems doing it for the right player, but to me Grabner doesn't add enough for a 1st. If we trade our 1st, I'm hoping it's for a guy with a little term. Grabner has a crazy inflated goal total, but we already have a couple similar guys in Rust and Hagelin. It sounds great, but with all our wing depth doesn't feel necessary.
- Tojo.

I would think the Rangers looking for youth and prospects he could be had for a 3rd rounder and a system player. Of course I would rather that happen if they did any deal at all but either way I like the dimension he adds to the team in it's speed and transistion game. I don't think there's such a thing as too much of a good thing.

I think his goal total would only be more inflated on the Pens, which is good.

I don't know have any clue what it would take to get Domi.

Coyotes would be selling very low. He's had a rough year and, despite his great rookie year, his offense has dropped off and seems to turn the puck over a fair amount.

Pens would hope he's their 3rd line C but can also play LW. I'd pay more for Brassard as that is more of a 'sure thing' for the next two cup runs. But Domi would probably be my next target of rumored available players...
- YouMeAndDupuis9

A 1st+Sheary or Desmith - Domi + 2nd? ARZ doesn't have a G, their team is a mess. A younger F with cup experience?

I got no problems doing it for the right player, but to me Grabner doesn't add enough for a 1st. If we trade our 1st, I'm hoping it's for a guy with a little term. Grabner has a crazy inflated goal total, but we already have a couple similar guys in Rust and Hagelin. It sounds great, but with all our wing depth doesn't feel necessary.
- Tojo.

I would think the Rangers looking for youth and prospects he could be had for a 3rd rounder and a system player. Of course I would rather that happen if they did any deal at all but either way I like the dimension he adds to the team in it's speed and transistion game. I don't think there's such a thing as too much of a good thing.

I think his goal total would only be more inflated on the Pens, which is good.

It's definitely alarming. I think a bunch of his goals are EN too. He's been known to go stone cold in the goal scoring department. I've advocated for the Pens to get him for years, but not for a 1st as an UFA.

Every time I see a guy with hardly any assists, I want no part of him playing in our top 6. I want skilled passers playing with our elite centers.
- madmike71

Yeah I wanted to trade for him two years back when he was a UFA in Toronto when I thought his cost would be lower and then I wanted to sign him in freeagency. I have no interest in paying a 1st or a 2nd for him right now. With Simon and ZAR deserving permanent NHL spots at this point, the middle six wing I've been advocating is even less important.