Way to butch a blog. Are you happy now? This one is over
- Barnaby36

Meh.

So, what's it going to take to get Sammy Bennet out of Calgary?

I wish the wind would change & The Dr could escape the grasp of an underperforming organisation & get his arse onto our bottom 6!

So, what's it going to take to get Sammy Bennet out of Calgary?

I wish the wind would change & The Dr could escape the grasp of an underperforming organisation & get his arse onto our bottom 6!
- Aussiepenguin

That would probably be an offseason move. I don't see them trading him though.

New balls!! Puts it in the..........

Some stuff from TIOPS:

- JR aggressively trying to get BOTH Brassard and Grabner, not just one or the other

-The asking price for Brass and what the Pens are wiling to offer have been established and it's now up to the Sens.

-The asking price of a 1st for Grabner has dropped to a 2nd and "something else." The something else is believed to be a young impact player.

-Pens' list is about 5-6 players long

-Pens have put out feelers on Plekanec and this would be a deadline day deal if it were to happen

-Interest in Soderberg, but not at his cap hit as the Pens believe he doesn't move the needle much over Sheahan even if they were willing to take Huwnick.

-Pens had interest in December in Bjugstad when they were thinking of a major shake-up that would send multiple players to FLA. FLA wants multiple players for Bjugstad, but with the Pens surging right now, JR has switched to attempting picks/prospects to move, not roster players.


All in all this is stuff most of us knew, but interesting nonetheless. I knew Grabner's price would drop and I think it will drop more. Sounds like if it were the Pens they'd want a 2nd plus Sheary which IMO is what they'd need to dangle to get someone like Brassard, not Grabner.

I'd offer a 3rd(2019 since they don't have one this year) + Kuhnhackl. The only way I'd offer a 2nd is if the Pens still had one after acquiring Brassard.

I'd be fine with a Sheahan/Soderberg combo, but COL would have to retain 50% IMO regardless what the Pens sent over, but I'm sure COL would now want a higher pick as incentive to do that. Soderberg doesn't seem realistic.

Some stuff from TIOPS:

- JR aggressively trying to get BOTH Brassard and Grabner, not just one or the other

-The asking price for Brass and what the Pens are wiling to offer have been established and it's now up to the Sens.

-The asking price of a 1st for Grabner has dropped to a 2nd and "something else." The something else is believed to be a young impact player.

-Pens' list is about 5-6 players long

-Pens have put out feelers on Plekanec and this would be a deadline day deal if it were to happen

-Interest in Soderberg, but not at his cap hit as the Pens believe he doesn't move the needle much over Sheahan even if they were willing to take Huwnick.

-Pens had interest in December in Bjugstad when they were thinking of a major shake-up that would send multiple players to FLA. FLA wants multiple players for Bjugstad, but with the Pens surging right now, JR has switched to attempting picks/prospects to move, not roster players.


All in all this is stuff most of us knew, but interesting nonetheless. I knew Grabner's price would drop and I think it will drop more. Sounds like if it were the Pens they'd want a 2nd plus Sheary which IMO is what they'd need to dangle to get someone like Brassard, not Grabner.

I'd offer a 3rd(2019 since they don't have one this year) + Kuhnhackl. The only way I'd offer a 2nd is if the Pens still had one after acquiring Brassard.

I'd be fine with a Sheahan/Soderberg combo, but COL would have to retain 50% IMO regardless what the Pens sent over, but I'm sure COL would now want a higher pick as incentive to do that. Soderberg doesn't seem realistic.
- Rinosaur

Thanks for posting. Agree, it's largely regurgitated rumors with a few more details that may just be speculation since it's TIOPS.

I don't see that package as a step down for Grabner. I'd rather trade a 1st then a 2nd AND a young player. Either way I say no. A 2nd plus something we wouldn't miss like Kuhnhackl sure.

Glad they're in on Brassard and Plekanec. I'm still hoping they end up with the best offer for Brassard.

Some stuff from TIOPS:

- JR aggressively trying to get BOTH Brassard and Grabner, not just one or the other

-The asking price for Brass and what the Pens are wiling to offer have been established and it's now up to the Sens.

-The asking price of a 1st for Grabner has dropped to a 2nd and "something else." The something else is believed to be a young impact player.

-Pens' list is about 5-6 players long

-Pens have put out feelers on Plekanec and this would be a deadline day deal if it were to happen

-Interest in Soderberg, but not at his cap hit as the Pens believe he doesn't move the needle much over Sheahan even if they were willing to take Huwnick.

-Pens had interest in December in Bjugstad when they were thinking of a major shake-up that would send multiple players to FLA. FLA wants multiple players for Bjugstad, but with the Pens surging right now, JR has switched to attempting picks/prospects to move, not roster players.


All in all this is stuff most of us knew, but interesting nonetheless. I knew Grabner's price would drop and I think it will drop more. Sounds like if it were the Pens they'd want a 2nd plus Sheary which IMO is what they'd need to dangle to get someone like Brassard, not Grabner.

I'd offer a 3rd(2019 since they don't have one this year) + Kuhnhackl. The only way I'd offer a 2nd is if the Pens still had one after acquiring Brassard.

I'd be fine with a Sheahan/Soderberg combo, but COL would have to retain 50% IMO regardless what the Pens sent over, but I'm sure COL would now want a higher pick as incentive to do that. Soderberg doesn't seem realistic.
- Rinosaur

Bjugstad isn't all that great. One of those never quite hit his billing but OK type players. I'd honestly rather have Sheahan. I wouldn't mind taking a "change of scenery" flyer on him to see if he could hit his potential with us, but not for multiple roster players. I'm glad that fell through.

I would be way more attracted to Grabner if we sent Sheary and Sprong out for Brassard, but as things stand right now, Grabner seems pretty superfluous and I don't know who we'd scratch if we brought him in. That's not necessarily a bad problem to have, but that's an extreme luxury that we don't need to send a high draft pick out for.

For Soderberg to make sense, Col would have to retain 50% and take back the Hunwick contract. I don't think I would want to send out any asset valuable enough for Col to do that for Sods. Even at 50% retained, he has a lot of term.

Some stuff from TIOPS:

- JR aggressively trying to get BOTH Brassard and Grabner, not just one or the other

-The asking price for Brass and what the Pens are wiling to offer have been established and it's now up to the Sens.

-The asking price of a 1st for Grabner has dropped to a 2nd and "something else." The something else is believed to be a young impact player.

-Pens' list is about 5-6 players long

-Pens have put out feelers on Plekanec and this would be a deadline day deal if it were to happen

-Interest in Soderberg, but not at his cap hit as the Pens believe he doesn't move the needle much over Sheahan even if they were willing to take Huwnick.

-Pens had interest in December in Bjugstad when they were thinking of a major shake-up that would send multiple players to FLA. FLA wants multiple players for Bjugstad, but with the Pens surging right now, JR has switched to attempting picks/prospects to move, not roster players.


All in all this is stuff most of us knew, but interesting nonetheless. I knew Grabner's price would drop and I think it will drop more. Sounds like if it were the Pens they'd want a 2nd plus Sheary which IMO is what they'd need to dangle to get someone like Brassard, not Grabner.

I'd offer a 3rd(2019 since they don't have one this year) + Kuhnhackl. The only way I'd offer a 2nd is if the Pens still had one after acquiring Brassard.

I'd be fine with a Sheahan/Soderberg combo, but COL would have to retain 50% IMO regardless what the Pens sent over, but I'm sure COL would now want a higher pick as incentive to do that. Soderberg doesn't seem realistic.
- Rinosaur

I still don't want Soderberg at 50 percent retained because of the years left

Bjugstad isn't all that great. One of those never quite hit his billing but OK type players. I'd honestly rather have Sheahan. I wouldn't mind taking a "change of scenery" flyer on him to see if he could hit his potential with us, but not for multiple roster players. I'm glad that fell through.

I would be way more attracted to Grabner if we sent Sheary and Sprong out for Brassard, but as things stand right now, Grabner seems pretty superfluous and I don't know who we'd scratch if we brought him in. That's not necessarily a bad problem to have, but that's an extreme luxury that we don't need to send a high draft pick out for.

For Soderberg to make sense, Col would have to retain 50% and take back the Hunwick contract. I don't think I would want to send out any asset valuable enough for Col to do that for Sods. Even at 50% retained, he has a lot of term.
- Victoro311

A 25 year old Right handed center that drives play and is good for anywhere between 30-40 points signed for 4 more years at 4.1 million? Sign me me up. A player of that nature is the exact type of player that I would want the Pens to dish out assets for. Currently sitting at 29 points. Topped 30 three times, and 40 once in those 3 seasons.

A 25 year old Right handed center that drives play and is good for anywhere between 30-40 points signed for 4 more years at 4.1 million? Sign me me up. A player of that nature is the exact type of player that I would want the Pens to dish out assets for. Currently sitting at 29 points. Topped 30 three times, and 40 once in those 3 seasons.
- j.boyd919

His production isn't really that different from Brassard and he's younger, cheaper, and locked up to term.

His production isn't really that different from Brassard and he's younger, cheaper, and locked up to term.
- j.boyd919

I think Bjugstad would have the highest price of all available players and maybe the only one I think would be worth it.

Depending on what FLA wants, I’d imagine we’d be looking at a 1st, roster player and top project. If it were the Pens I imagine their offer would be a 1st, Sheary + Sprong or Gustavsson.

Is that worth it? I’m 50/50 on that, but I think it’s irrelevant because he’s probably the least realistic target.

I still don't want Soderberg at 50 percent retained because of the years left
- 668710

2 more years at under $3M isn’t the worst thing for a player like him if you consider him and Sheahan together as the Pens bottom six center tandem would probably combine for around $5M. That said, I don’t completely disagree with you.

A 25 year old Right handed center that drives play and is good for anywhere between 30-40 points signed for 4 more years at 4.1 million? Sign me me up. A player of that nature is the exact type of player that I would want the Pens to dish out assets for. Currently sitting at 29 points. Topped 30 three times, and 40 once in those 3 seasons.
- j.boyd919

Has he been playing top line wing all year? If so I'd want to know if that's because he failed at center. Otherwise, interested, depends on the price. Last year was his only real bad year.

His production isn't really that different from Brassard and he's younger, cheaper, and locked up to term.
- j.boyd919

Can you make those charts for the past four or so years, please? His analytics have not been good for a while and point production wasn't there the past two seasons. He was a negative possession player during the "Fancy Cats" era. That's concerning to me.

Has he been playing top line wing all year? If so I'd want to know if that's because he failed at center. Otherwise, interested, depends on the price. Last year was his only real bad year.
- Tojo.

I just looked and he's only won 127 face offs so far this year which signals to me he hasnt been at C much.

Sheahan has won 444

Brassard has won 422

Malkin has won 318

Crosby has won 763

Ryan O'rielly (league leader) has won 904

Has he been playing top line wing all year? If so I'd want to know if that's because he failed at center. Otherwise, interested, depends on the price. Last year was his only real bad year.
- Tojo.

He's been playing with Barkov this year, last year he sucked.. butt he year before he played with Huberudeau and Reilly Smith and put up respectable numbers as a C.

I just looked and he's only won 127 face offs so far this year which signals to me he hasnt been at C much.

Sheahan has won 444

Brassard has won 422

Malkin has won 318

Crosby has won 763

Ryan O'rielly (league leader) has won 904
- MattStrat

Yeah I looked into he, he's been on Barkov's wing this year, but 2 years ago he played a lot of C with Reilly Smith and Jonathan Huberdeau.

I just looked and he's only won 127 face offs so far this year which signals to me he hasnt been at C much.

Sheahan has won 444

Brassard has won 422

Malkin has won 318

Crosby has won 763

Ryan O'rielly (league leader) has won 904
- MattStrat

Thanks, I should have thought of that. Looks like they moved him there this year. Like Vic was saying, his possession numbers were really bad before so you have to question it's the move to scoring wing that helped him turn that around.

Can you make those charts for the past four or so years, please? His analytics have not been good for a while and point production wasn't there the past two seasons. He was a negative possession player during the "Fancy Cats" era. That's concerning to me.
- Victoro311

Those charts are only 2 years, have to look at HERO charts for the time before that.





I do think that Brassard is a superior player, 2C range, but I think Bjugstad can work as a 3C in Pittsburgh with the right wingers. I'm usually against 3C with long term, but at 25 with a few 30+ point seasons, and a relatively cheap cap hit (4.1m), I think if the price is right.. it could be a solid move.

Those charts are only 2 years, have to look at HERO charts for the time before that.





I do think that Brassard is a superior player, 2C range, but I think Bjugstad can work as a 3C in Pittsburgh with the right wingers. I'm usually against 3C with long term, but at 25 with a few 30+ point seasons, and a relatively cheap cap hit (4.1m), I think if the price is right.. it could be a solid move.
- j.boyd919

For the right price, sure, but the report said multiple roster players. Bjugstad is a guy I'd add for the right amount of futures, not important roster players.