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nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Feb 18 @ 11:26 PM ET
When the smoke clears I hope we do have at least one more first rounder. And a top prospect. I think we will get our first deal tomorrow. These 3 days off. This is the time.
- jimbo83

Agreed. I think either Nash or Grabs will be for a 1st and McD will be for a package of prospects. If we end up 8/9 I want to see them get into the top 4 and grab Takchuk
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Feb 18 @ 11:42 PM ET
DeAngelo is bad defensively. Period. At 21, he could only crack that "awesome" (sarcasm) Arizona defensive line up for 39 games, in having a (-13) rating with them last season. That's why they departed with him, despite he averaging about 16:00 of ice time per game there. He is also not in proper position on many occasions even prior to him having to react properly defensively in the appropriate game situation matter. His only plus are his potential offensive skills. But when injury free, we already have that right handed shooting, and offensive leading back liner on this roster by the nickname of Shatty, who DeAngelo has a long way to go to be worth just 1/2 of his contributions when healthy.
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Feb 18 @ 11:52 PM ET
I don’t see any reason to keep AV around for the remainder of the season. The team and season are over and done. There’s obviously some issues with the coach and some players. And add Hanks stare down the bench after yesterday’s hook. Unfortunately we have to see some good guys go in trades this upcoming week and I just don’t see what good could come from keeping AV around past the deadline. If anything, it could be more detrimental to the progress of the future.

And please send Scott Arniel packing ASAP. I cannot stand that guy. Never have

- Blueshirts16


And Lindy Ruff Ruff must also go. A complete new coaching staff MUST be in place here, prior to any trade going down, including among the obvious UFA's. That new staff must have a say in the return for them, especially since it now appears that they are looking to still contend next season & beyond while Hank is still here. In that regard, they will seek young, NHL ready prospects and some already established players, (also in UFA's & RFA's), as opposed to #1 draft picks, who will not contribute immediately if not in the top 10 or higher.
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Feb 19 @ 12:16 AM ET
When the smoke clears I hope we do have at least one more first rounder. And a top prospect. I think we will get our first deal tomorrow. These 3 days off. This is the time.
- jimbo83

I agree and have said that on earlier blogs, as to that 3 straight days off break in the final week prior to the deadline, being when most of their trade activity will take place. I believe that from that Feb. 8th day when Sather and Gorton issued that stupid memo to both Rangers fans & the entire hockey world, they wanted to see first where the team would stand after their next 6 games through Sunday's Flyers match up. But in addition, should the results be bad, they may have (unknowingly to all), been talking to possible replacements for A.V. as well. Their winning those first two games last weekend, following by losing the next four has likely led them to make changes beginning to go down on Monday.
There would be no use to acquire new players, prior to a new voice coming in that would have some say in any moves that would benefit his coaching system. That's why I feel the rumor out of Quebec could be accurate, in that A.V. may be canned on Monday, with maybe a flurry of activity for the major names, coming on Tuesday. You may see just a lesser type like a Desharnais or two being dealt on Monday.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 19 @ 12:16 AM ET
And Lindy Ruff Ruff must also go. A complete new coaching staff MUST be in place here, prior to any trade going down, including among the obvious UFA's. That new staff must have a say in the return for them, especially since it now appears that they are looking to still contend next season & beyond while Hank is still here. In that regard, they will seek young, NHL ready prospects and some already established players, (also in UFA's & RFA's), as opposed to #1 draft picks, who will not contribute immediately if not in the top 10 or higher.
- RangerSaver


If AV gets the ax this week, They’re not gonna bring in someone to coach, or coaches, from outside the system. It’s gonna be Ruff and Arniel the rest of the season. Or it’s the Hartford coach (not sure who that is), which I guess is possible. They’ll probably fall flat too then a new search will ensue once the season ends. It’s pointless to assume or hope for anything otherwise. It’s not like the next long term coach will be given input in these deadline trades. It’s not football where the head coach sort of gets the QB he wants. I think that’s what your kind of saying needs to happen. It shouldn’t have any bearing on deadline deals, has that ever happen before? Doubtful. It takes time to find a long term guy

I think we should all just be happy AV is gonzo shortly and focus on who coaches next year and not freak the hell out if it’s a Ruff on an interim. While waiting patiently for trades
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Feb 19 @ 12:28 AM ET
If AV gets the ax this week, They’re not gonna bring in someone to coach, or coaches, from outside the system. It’s gonna be Ruff and Arniel the rest of the season. Or it’s the Hartford coach (not sure how that is), which I guess is possible. They’ll probably fall flat too then a new search will ensue once the season ends. It’s pointless to assume or hope for anything otherwise. It’s not like the next long term coach will want input in these deadline trades. It’s not football where the head coach sort of gets the QB he wants. I think that’s what your kind of saying needs to happen. It shouldn’t have any bearing on deadline deals, has that ever happen before? Doubtful

I think we should all just be happy AV is gonzo shortly and focus on who coaches next year and not freak the hell out if it’s a Ruff on an interim. While waiting patiently for trades

- Slimtj100


I see your point, TJ. But as I just simultaneously replied to your longtime friend, Jimbo, it's possible that they may have already & unknowingly to the hockey world, been talking to some possible available coaches we would have never suspected. That may include younger and non former NHL ones at lower levels. If not the case, then maybe Schoenfeld will only finish this season as an interim coach. A Chris Drury, had he not been in his Rangers position, could have also filled that role through the season's end.
way out west
Joined: 12.30.2008

Feb 19 @ 12:29 AM ET
If AV gets the ax this week, They’re not gonna bring in someone to coach, or coaches, from outside the system. It’s gonna be Ruff and Arniel the rest of the season. Or it’s the Hartford coach (not sure who that is), which I guess is possible. They’ll probably fall flat too then a new search will ensue once the season ends. It’s pointless to assume or hope for anything otherwise. It’s not like the next long term coach will be given input in these deadline trades. It’s not football where the head coach sort of gets the QB he wants. I think that’s what your kind of saying needs to happen. It shouldn’t have any bearing on deadline deals, has that ever happen before? Doubtful. It takes time to find a long term guy

I think we should all just be happy AV is gonzo shortly and focus on who coaches next year and not freak the hell out if it’s a Ruff on an interim. While waiting patiently for trades

- Slimtj100


I agree 100% . AV will be gone and one of Ruff or Arniel interm head coach or maybe associate coaches to finish the poopty year out

Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Feb 19 @ 12:34 AM ET
I agree 100% . AV will be gone and one of Ruff or Arniel interm head coach or maybe associate coaches to finish the poopty year out
- way out west

Ruff will take over, that's why he is here. No way Arniel is the next coach, he and AV should be fired into the sun.
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Feb 19 @ 12:43 AM ET
Ruff will take over, that's why he is here. No way Arniel is the next coach, he and AV should be fired into the sun.
- Fenrir

If Ruff replaces A.V., then it will only be for the balance of the season, barring some Scotty Bowman type miracle in their final 22 games. The defense even prior to all the injuries, had become worse under Ruff, which is his supposed strength. However, could that have been due to both A.V. and Arniel's system? That's why I agree those two for sure must go, because they have also held up the progression of their younger players, with #1 on the list being Miller. A.V. has bounced him around all over the place to the point that it wouldn't surprise me if he ordered him to put the goal pads on next.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 19 @ 1:08 AM ET
I see your point, TJ. But as I just simultaneously replied to your longtime friend, Jimbo, it's possible that they may have already & unknowingly to the hockey world, been talking to some possible available coaches we would have never suspected. That may include younger and non former NHL ones at lower levels. If not the case, then maybe Schoenfeld will only finish this season as an interim coach. A Chris Drury, had he not been in his Rangers position, could have also filled that role through the season's end.
- RangerSaver

He’s my long time brother, unfortunately 😔 44 Years in fact
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 19 @ 1:14 AM ET
If Ruff replaces A.V., then it will only be for the balance of the season, barring some Scotty Bowman type miracle in their final 22 games. The defense even prior to all the injuries, had become worse under Ruff, which is his supposed strength. However, could that have been due to both A.V. and Arniel's system? That's why I agree those two for sure must go, because they have also held up the progression of their younger players, with #1 on the list being Miller. A.V. has bounced him around all over the place to the point that it wouldn't surprise me if he ordered him to put the goal pads on next.
- RangerSaver


This year is a complete washout. Forget it ever happen...next year start fresh with brand new coach, new players, etc. In fact, next season starts this week as far as I’m concerned. They do still have players good enough to build around and to make some noise in the standings next year, but cup contenders seems unlikely for a few years. The next two drafts are going to be extremely crucial for them. They must hit some home runs. JT Miller, for example, isn’t a home run
Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 19 @ 2:09 AM ET
If Ruff replaces A.V., then it will only be for the balance of the season, barring some Scotty Bowman type miracle in their final 22 games. The defense even prior to all the injuries, had become worse under Ruff, which is his supposed strength. However, could that have been due to both A.V. and Arniel's system? That's why I agree those two for sure must go, because they have also held up the progression of their younger players, with #1 on the list being Miller. A.V. has bounced him around all over the place to the point that it wouldn't surprise me if he ordered him to put the goal pads on next.
- RangerSaver


Not trolling you guys. I’m actually feeling your pain for what AV has done with Miller. 4th line?? With McLeod?? That’s just pure punishment!! My Flyers would love Miller and Grabner, although I know there is never much inter division trading. I just can’t believe how your coaching staff has been using Miller. Feel bad for the dude, and they’ve ridden the King into the ground the past two years! I agree with the consensus that AV and his staff need to go asap. If they go w a youth movement, they better make sure they get a coach who is good at developing young talent.
fls13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.24.2009

Feb 19 @ 4:24 AM ET
If they go w a youth movement, they better make sure they get a coach who is good at developing young talent.
- Hokeeguy9


The Rags drafting has been awful for a decade. That's the core of the problem as I see it. Trade some vets who can plug in and play well somewhere else for picks but if they blow those picks, which seems likely, what good does it do you? If they hadn't gotten lucky stealing Hank in a late round 18 years ago, where would they be?
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Feb 19 @ 5:31 AM ET
He’s my long time brother, unfortunately 😔 44 Years in fact
- Slimtj100


❤️❤️❤️
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Feb 19 @ 5:43 AM ET
The Rags drafting has been awful for a decade. That's the core of the problem as I see it. Trade some vets who can plug in and play well somewhere else for picks but if they blow those picks, which seems likely, what good does it do you? If they hadn't gotten lucky stealing Hank in a late round 18 years ago, where would they be?
- fls13


I don’t know, where would Penguins be if league didn’t hand them Crosby.

whatever they have done good or bad the last decade with picks has nothing to do with how they'll perform in the 2018 draft.

Looks like they did pretty well for themselves in 2017 draft
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Feb 19 @ 6:50 AM ET
Says he will be fired by Thursday and indicates NY Post as the source. Nothing verified, no true sources yet and why would Post hold this info?
https://hockey30.com/nouv...de-jeudi-a-montreal-selon

- airjan23


The story even went on to say that "Henrik Lundqvist will have the head of his coach as Carey Price dismissed Michel Therrien".
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Feb 19 @ 7:05 AM ET
The story even went on to say that "Henrik Lundqvist will have the head of his coach as Carey Price dismissed Michel Therrien".
- RangerSaver


he's gonna decaffeinate him
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Feb 19 @ 7:12 AM ET
Bob McKenzie mentioned in key, (but not the exact full wording), this past weekend that "Tampa, Boston, and Toronto now have one more competitor officially interested in acquiring Ryan McDonagh". He added that "Dallas made an offer for McDonagh, which involves a first rounder and d'man Julias Honka". I don't know by his word choice, "WHICH INVOLVES ...", if that signifies this was the exact deal on both ends, or if additional pieces were also involved on either or both ends.
This addition of Dallas should make the return for McDonagh greater respectably, or even possibly higher than anyone expected.
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Feb 19 @ 7:18 AM ET
he's gonna decaffeinate him
- jimbo83


... and his chewing gums as well.
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Feb 19 @ 7:18 AM ET
Bob McKenzie mentioned in key, (but not the exact full wording), this past weekend that "Tampa, Boston, and Toronto now have one more competitor officially interested in acquiring Ryan McDonagh". He added that "Dallas made an offer for McDonagh, which involves a first rounder and d'man Julias Honka". I don't know by his word choice, "WHICH INVOLVES ...", if that signifies this was the exact deal on both ends, or if additional pieces were also involved on either or both ends.
This addition of Dallas should make the return for McDonagh greater respectably, or even possibly higher than anyone expected.

- RangerSaver


after the shallacking Dallas took in San Jose yesterday they should feel some desperation today
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Feb 19 @ 7:39 AM ET
after the shallacking Dallas took in San Jose yesterday they should feel some desperation today
- jimbo83

I didn't see the game, but saw that in the Sharks' 5-2 win over Dallas, each team had 28 SOG. But, if we thought that Hank had his troubles this past weekend, in that Dallas loss, Bishop was pulled after allowing 4 goals on only 5 SOG, for only a .200 Save %.
How about Boston being routed by Vancouver 6-1 on Saturday, despite having a 45-23 edge in SOG? Rask was pulled after the 1st, for allowing 4 goals on 12 SOG, to break his & the Bruins recent & nearly perfect, 1/4 season games' worth streak.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Feb 19 @ 7:40 AM ET
Gold #10
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Feb 19 @ 7:43 AM ET
Gold #10
- 21peter

Not the medal count for A.V., unless you are talking about his chewing gums.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 19 @ 7:46 AM ET
The Rags drafting has been awful for a decade. That's the core of the problem as I see it. Trade some vets who can plug in and play well somewhere else for picks but if they blow those picks, which seems likely, what good does it do you? If they hadn't gotten lucky stealing Hank in a late round 18 years ago, where would they be?
- fls13



Drafting has been on par with rest of league...some good and some bad. Problem. Is that NYR hasn't had many high caliber picks because of their good record over the years prevents high picks and trades that gave away draft picks...

Do you want the entire scouting staff fired too?
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Feb 19 @ 8:04 AM ET
The Rags drafting has been awful for a decade. That's the core of the problem as I see it. Trade some vets who can plug in and play well somewhere else for picks but if they blow those picks, which seems likely, what good does it do you? If they hadn't gotten lucky stealing Hank in a late round 18 years ago, where would they be?
- fls13



Their drafting has not beeen that terrible considering how many picks and where they have picked.

Oilers Pens hawks look good bc any (frank)ing blind idiot can draft Kane, towes, Crosby Malkib and mcdavid. That being said the rangers need more top 5 picks.
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