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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 19 @ 3:01 PM ET
Dale Tallon's a smart hockey man. He wanted Gudbranson back. Just saying.
- VanHockeyGuy



Ask Hawks fans 👍👍
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 19 @ 3:01 PM ET
Dale Tallon's a smart hockey man. He wanted Gudbranson back. Just saying.
- VanHockeyGuy

That's because their depth on D is pretty bad. Their goaltending is also very bad. They have a lot of really good young forwards.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 19 @ 3:01 PM ET
Dale Tallon's a smart hockey man. He wanted Gudbranson back. Just saying.
- VanHockeyGuy


Even smart hockey guys make mistakes

He let Marchessault and Smith go..2/3 of the Knights 2nd line
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 19 @ 3:02 PM ET
Awesome. Stats that are actually pertinent to a player.
Do you have a link to this site/s?

- Reubenkincade


I have them bookmarked on my laptop. I’ll link them when I get home. One of them is behind a paywall though.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Feb 19 @ 3:04 PM ET
I have them bookmarked on my laptop. I’ll link them when I get home. One of them is behind a paywall though.
- Nucker101


That would be great, thanks
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Feb 19 @ 3:04 PM ET
Cue OJ making the team next season or the one after
- Nighthawk


sure hope he pans out (#2/3).






VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 19 @ 3:05 PM ET
I’ve moved on from corsi. There’s better stats out there. How many shots the dman allows from the slot/near the net. How good he is at moving the puck out of the zone against forecheckers, how good he is at stopping opposing forwards from gaining the zone with full control vs forcing a dump and chase, etc.

Chances are that a dman whis good at forcing dump and chase and then good at beating the forecheck is a pretty good dman in today’s game.

Cody Franson is a guy who is a prime example of why corsi is flawed

- Nucker101


How do Vegas D and Sbisa rank?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 19 @ 3:07 PM ET
How do Vegas D and Sbisa rank?
- VANTEL


I checked out Sbisa’s numbers a couple of weeks ago. They were pretty decent. Can’t remember the rest of their D.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 19 @ 3:08 PM ET
Say the cap is $80m

My quick spending breakdowm goes like this...

F 48m
D 25m
G 7m

Question who & how much for each.
4th line for about 5m
5-6D 3m

The rest is flexible dependent on the salary keepers longterm
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 19 @ 3:08 PM ET
Neem whats the analytic autopsy on that pls? Tyvm
- Nighthawk


much like Toronto, when you outscore your opponents by a massive margin you're going to win. Isles can't really be praised for good defence, goaltending has also been suspect but JT and Barzal are looking like a top5 or 10 1-2 punch. Ottawa does't have a 1 punch let alone a 2 punch up front. Below average goaltending/D has hurt them more than the isles for this reason.

However, the statistical trend the last 5-6 years is that teams that allow an egregious amount of goals in the regular season don't make it past the second round of the playoffs. Tor/Edm last year, Dallas the year before and so on are examples of this. NYI will have a hard time winning more than one 7 game series against teams better at suppressing shots than them.

Teams with the best possession numbers (Pitt, Chi, TB) and Corsi (LA, BOS, NSH) seem to be trending up, but having an outlier performer statistically (almost always a top5 pick) is paramount to winning also. While there's much more to what they are doing on the ice than numbers, the numbers do show that these teams control play by either keeping the puck away and in the offensive zone producing shots and/or suppressing quality chances from happening. The strategies of how to do these things differ from team to team, but the results are the same: winning teams do these two things well.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 19 @ 3:08 PM ET
sure hope he pans out (#2/3).
- hillbillydeluxe



About right IMO
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 19 @ 3:09 PM ET
Say the cap is $80m

My quick spending breakdowm goes like this...

F 48m
D 25m
G 7m

Question who & how much for each.
4th line foe about 5m
5-6D 3m

The rest is flexible dependent on the salary keepers longterm

- Nighthawk


We’ve already gone over budget there
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 19 @ 3:10 PM ET
much like Toronto, when you outscore your opponents by a massive margin you're going to win. Isles can't really be praised for good defence, goaltending has also been suspect but JT and Barzal are looking like a top5 or 10 1-2 punch. Ottawa does't have a 1 punch let alone a 2 punch up front. Below average goaltending/D has hurt them more than the isles for this reason.

However, the statistical trend the last 5-6 years is that teams that allow an egregious amount of goals in the regular season don't make it past the second round of the playoffs. Tor/Edm last year, Dallas the year before and so on are examples of this. NYI will have a hard time winning more than one 7 game series against teams better at suppressing shots than them.

Teams with the best possession numbers (Pitt, Chi, TB) and Corsi (LA, BOS, NSH) seem to be trending up, but having an outlier performer statistically (almost always a top5 pick) is paramount to winning also. While there's much more to what they are doing on the ice than numbers, the numbers do show that these teams control play by either keeping the puck away and in the offensive zone producing shots and/or suppressing quality chances from happening. The strategies of how to do these things differ from team to team, but the results are the same: winning teams do these two things well.

- neem55



Now onto PO analytics & how the regular season applies to it? Thx
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 19 @ 3:10 PM ET
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 19 @ 3:11 PM ET
We’ve already gone over budget there
- Nucker101


True but i expect trades so that gets more in line i hope.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 19 @ 3:11 PM ET
Victorias goalie is named Outhouse
- VANTEL

Griffin Outhouse. Gets me every time the kid is really good too
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 19 @ 3:12 PM ET
Now onto PO analytics & how the regular season applies to it? Thx
- Nighthawk

I actually think he covered that. Teams that give up less shots/scoring chances generally do better than ones that are comfortable trading chances and out-scoring teams in more wide open hockey.

Teams like Boston are built better for the playoffs than Toronto.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 19 @ 3:16 PM ET
Now onto PO analytics & how the regular season applies to it? Thx
- Nighthawk


It was included in the post, time to get the old glasses out!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 19 @ 3:17 PM ET
Griffin Outhouse. Gets me every time the kid is really good too
- neem55


I have listened to a couple of Giant games , he always does well against them
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 19 @ 3:18 PM ET

- VanHockeyGuy

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 19 @ 3:20 PM ET
Good job boy. We were 100 comments behind the Flyers blog a few hours ago. Now 115 ahead.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Feb 19 @ 3:22 PM ET
It was included in the post, time to get the old glasses out!
- neem55


Whats with the hate of the "old" today?😃
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 19 @ 3:24 PM ET
Good job boy. We were 100 comments behind the Flyers blog a few hours ago. Now 115 ahead.
- manvanfan


Nucker is in here not there, that's why
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 19 @ 3:28 PM ET
Cameranesi from Cassels and the Comets lead 1-0 in Belleville!

COMETS GOAL! MACEWEN MAKES IT 2-0 COMETS
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Feb 19 @ 3:33 PM ET
Cameranesi from Cassels and the Comets lead 1-0 in Belleville!

COMETS GOAL! MACEWEN MAKES IT 2-0 COMETS

- VANTEL


Looking for ward to him making it in another season or 2👍
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