Holy holes in the donuts Batman!!


That backread! I'd hate to see what these boards would look like if they weren't gaining points.
- hockeylover

Holy holes in the donuts Batman!!


That backread! I'd hate to see what these boards would look like if they weren't gaining points.
- hockeylover

It's all Bigg E's fault

I see your Mrazek, and raise you an Anderson.
- flyer_nutter

Anderson has been inconsistent at best....

It's all Bigg E's fault
- wcorvette

Well it could be the whiskey's fault?

Look at our cap situation even if it don't go up it's not going to kill them. For %$^%$&$&$ SAKE. I think I need my blood pressure meds again. Neuvy is garbage he needs to be fired into the sun. I don't even care if they don't resign Mrazek really. I just want 2 stable goalies for the next 5 weeks which we don't have.

You can't call Tokarski up right now. He needs to be in Lehigh's net for the next few weeks as they are in the playoff push also. And that experience will be great for the prospects.

And no way to I roll with Lyon/Muse here and Tokarsi/Dekanich in LHV.
- dragonoffrost

Exactly.

5-3 wild over Isles, not looking good for them.

Carolina is off till Friday then they play Pitt, Detroit and Boston.

The are the 2 closest, I really think the Panthers have a chance to challenge for a wild card, they are playing good hockey and Isles and Canes are not

Schedule Gods are looking out for Philly

It's all Bigg E's fault
- wcorvette

Yup, this is true, the math checks out.

Well it could be the whiskey's fault?
- dragonoffrost

Not yet, but as soon as I get home.....

Thats MISTER Ronnie James Dio to you.
- Doc_Sarcasm

Don’t smell the flowers they are an evil drug that will make you lose your mind.

If Hextall doesn't add a goalie by the weekend I have no clue what he is doing at all. What kind of message does that send to the team for the stretch drive not a good one in my eyes. He's been afraid to make trades since he's been the GM I see no issue trading a 2nd rounder or anything less for a goalie with the situation the Flyers are in right now. Not to mention how many picks / prospects we already have. Hextall really baffles me sometimes he should have traded that 3rd for Mrazek when it was offered it's a 3rd round pick and we have 2 firsts and 2 4ths in the upcoming draft why so stingy when the season literally depends on it at this point.

If Hextall doesn't add a goalie by the weekend I have no clue what he is doing at all. What kind of message does that send to the team for the stretch drive not a good one in my eyes. He's been afraid to make trades since he's been the GM I see no issue trading a 2nd rounder or anything less for a goalie with the situation the Flyers are in right now. Not to mention how many picks / prospects we already have. Hextall really baffles me sometimes he should have traded that 3rd for Mrazek when it was offered it's a 3rd round pick and we have 2 firsts and 2 4ths in the upcoming draft why so stingy when the season literally depends on it at this point.
- FreshFlyer

We have 2 5ths not 4ths and but then again it is Arizona's 5th so that's almost a late 4th

We have 2 5ths not 4ths and but then again it is Arizona's 5th so that's almost a late 4th
- dragonoffrost

Either way , I still don't get it , what's the chances a 3rd round pick even makes it to the NHL very slim, we have kept pretty much all our picks for the last several years I don't see how trading 1 mid round pick for a goalie is such a bad move to make when the season literally depends on it at this point. You can't have Lyon as your starter the rest of the season, he isn't capable in that role and that sends the team a terrible message if he doesn't make a move. Whether it be Mrazek, Pickard or someone else the Flyers need to make a move. I don't get how trading a 2nd rounder or 3rd or 4th for a goalie is going to have any effect on our prospect pool which is already the best in the league. Chances that pick becomes an impact player is slim to none. Make the move already Hexy.

Exactly.

As I posted a few days ago, no one saw any of the following winning the Cup or going to the finals at the start of the playoffs:

85-86 Canadiens
89-90 Oilers
92-93 Canadiens
97-98 Capitals
02-03 Hurricanes
05-06 Hurricanes
05-06 Oilers
11-12 Devils

A goalie can get hot, your opponent can suffer key injuries, the favorite could get upset in the previous round. All of these can and have happened. To refuse to part with a 3rd round pick to legitimately improve your team's chances in the playoffs is just silly. No one is calling for them to trade Sanheim, Frost, Lindblom, Myers, Rubtsov, Hart or a 1st, just one 3rd round friggin pick.
- BiggE

I agree. It's almost a straight up financial decision at this point. The odds of a third rounder being an NHL contributor are low.* The Flyers pipeline is really good now. Giving up a third to possibly make some noise (and some money) in the playoffs is pretty close to a no-brainer.



*Someone can go ahead and cherry pick some exceptions to "prove me wrong" now, but statistically speaking, the odds are low.

Either way , I still don't get it , what's the chances a 3rd round pick even makes it to the NHL very slim, we have kept pretty much all our picks for the last several years I don't see how trading 1 mid round pick for a goalie is such a bad move to make when the season literally depends on it at this point. You can't have Lyon as your starter the rest of the season, he isn't capable in that role and that sends the team a terrible message if he doesn't make a move. Whether it be Mrazek, Pickard or someone else the Flyers need to make a move. I don't get how trading a 2nd rounder or 3rd or 4th for a goalie is going to have any effect on our prospect pool which is already the best in the league. Chances that pick becomes an impact player is slim to none. Make the move already Hexy.
- FreshFlyer

Well it's pros and cons. The truth is you constantly need a fresh supply of prospects because 1 not all prospects work out and 2 guys get too expensive for the cap and you need to backfill. Trading for a 6-8 week rental for a 2nd rounder is too steep for me. I would consider q 3rd depending on the goalie and the time he would be here. It's a deep draft in the top 62 I would absolutely want to pick 3 times. Also let's look at our consistent success at drafting throughout. It's not just gost but how about your lindbloms or 2nd round or later like Allison ratcliffe sushko hart etc.

Does Panotch even have credentials anymore?
- hereticpride

On paper? Yes.
On the street? No.

I agree. It's almost a straight up financial decision at this point. The odds of a third rounder being an NHL contributor are low.* The Flyers pipeline is really good now. Giving up a third to possibly make some noise (and some money) in the playoffs is pretty close to a no-brainer.



*Someone can go ahead and cherry pick some exceptions to "prove me wrong" now, but statistically speaking, the odds are low.
- Scoob

If Hextall doesn't trade for a goalie I have no clue as to what he's even thinking. If a 3rd round pick is more valuable to him than his team making the playoffs I don't want him to be our GM for much longer. I don't understand his hesitancy to make a deal when the season may depend on it.

Well it's pros and cons. The truth is you constantly need a fresh supply of prospects because 1 not all prospects work out and 2 guys get too expensive for the cap and you need to backfill. Trading for a 6-8 week rental for a 2nd rounder is too steep for me. I would consider q 3rd depending on the goalie and the time he would be here. It's a deep draft in the top 62 I would absolutely want to pick 3 times. Also let's look at our consistent success at drafting throughout. It's not just gost but how about your lindbloms or 2nd round or later like Allison ratcliffe sushko hart etc.
- Tfaehner

I understand you're rationale especially if the Flyers didn't have a good prospect pool but they have the best in the league. Making a move should be a no brainer at this point even if it is just a rental. If I was a player and Hextall did nothing and left the team with Lyon for the stretch drive I'd be pissed, considering the season the team and some of the players are having. Basically telling them nice job but we aren't good enough to win so maybe next year boys. That is not a message you want to send to your players.

If Hextall doesn't trade for a goalie I have no clue as to what he's even thinking. If a 3rd round pick is more valuable to him than his team making the playoffs I don't want him to be our GM for much longer. I don't understand his hesitancy to make a deal when the season may depend on it.
- FreshFlyer

Your preemptive anger is interesting.

Unhealthy, but interesting.

Also, before Neuvirth got hurt, there wasn't a pressing need to acquire another goalie. Elliot will be back for the playoffs. There was no hesitation. Now that Neuvirth is hurt, there is a pressing need. I doubt Hextall is playing Candy Crush right now. He's working to get something done - not hesitating.

Your preemptive anger is interesting.

Unhealthy, but interesting.

Also, before Neuvirth got hurt, there wasn't a pressing need to acquire another goalie. Elliot will be back for the playoffs. There was no hesitation. Now that Neuvirth is hurt, there is a pressing need. I doubt Hextall is playing Candy Crush right now. He's working to get something done - not hesitating.
- Scoob

Just looking at Neuvirths track record he should have already made a deal. Hextall couldn't have thought Neuvirth was capable of starting games for 5 weeks straight without getting injured considering he hasn't done that his whole career. I like Hextall but he is too hesitant, if this were Holmgren we would have a goalie already. Say all you want about Holmgren making dumb deals but when the team was having success he tried to put them in the best positions to win. I hope you are right and he is working on a deal but until I see it I can't believe it. Hextall has shown to many times that he is way to conservative as a GM.

I understand you're rationale especially if the Flyers didn't have a good prospect pool but they have the best in the league. Making a move should be a no brainer at this point even if it is just a rental. If I was a player and Hextall did nothing and left the team with Lyon for the stretch drive I'd be pissed, considering the season the team and some of the players are having. Basically telling them nice job but we aren't good enough to win so maybe next year boys. That is not a message you want to send to your players.
- FreshFlyer

I think we should trade for a goalie but the cost to me is what I get back. If it's 6-8 weeks than Elliot or neuvirth just going to get back the job anyway than I'm not wasting a top 62 pick. If it's potentially our playoff starter than I'm more willing to give stuff up. I also truly believe hextall has probably talked to just about everyone with a goalie to gauge prices

Just looking at Neuvirths track record he should have already made a deal. Hextall couldn't have thought Neuvirth was capable of starting games for 5 weeks straight without getting injured considering he hasn't done that his whole career. I like Hextall but he is too hesitant, if this were Holmgren we would have a goalie already. Say all you want about Holmgren making dumb deals but when the team was having success he tried to put them in the best positions to win. I hope you are right and he is working on a deal but until I see it I can't believe it. Hextall has shown to many times that he is way to conservative as a GM.
- FreshFlyer

Was Howie roseman conservative for not getting a new qb left tackle or linebacker ?

I think we should trade for a goalie but the cost to me is what I get back. If it's 6-8 weeks than Elliot or neuvirth just going to get back the job anyway than I'm not wasting a top 62 pick. If it's potentially our playoff starter than I'm more willing to give stuff up. I also truly believe hextall has probably talked to just about everyone with a goalie to gauge prices
- Tfaehner

From what I've seen of Mrazek he can steal games if he's on. He might be better than Elliot and Neuvirth. He had issues with Detroit because they were giving Howard more games than him when he was considerably younger and playing better on most occasions. If he comes here he is going to be the bonafide number 1 for at least 5 weeks. And if I know Hakstol if Mrazek is hot and playing well he will continue to play, seems like a good situation for both parties. I couldn't care less if he walks at the end of it all getting some playoff experience for the younger guys is more valuable than losing a 2nd or 3rd.

NHl Teams arent just filled with first and second round players.
The reason that the Wings were that good for so long is the ability to hit late in the draft.

That being said, I am fairly sure that the plan isnt to just go with Lyon for the rest of the year.

My guess is flyerzbuzz rage over the fact he hasnt already made a trade.

Was Howie roseman conservative for not getting a new qb left tackle or linebacker ?
- Tfaehner

I can assure that if Foles went down as well he probably would have. I can't really comment on football I don't follow it too much though. All I know is if the Flyers go the next 5 weeks with Lyon as their goalie they will miss the playoffs I can guarantee you that. If Hextall makes that decision, it's another wasted year for G and Voracek and I really start to question him as a GM.

Nothing wrong with using a draft pick to make a move to improve the team for the future. I don't want them to use a significant draft pick for a playoff rental.
- MJL

So what exactly is your solution to the issue of not having a first or second string goaltender for an extended period of time. It is a third round pick as mentioned many times before big deal. We have two first rounders this year. This is where the really good prospects are.