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arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 19 @ 2:53 PM ET
Exactly what I thought. If you're going to accuse someone of something then you should be prepared to back it up. I'm aware of the Flyers draft history. I'm also aware of how many draft picks the Flyers traded away year after year in a effort to win now lessening the odds of the Flyers hitting on a player drafted with a lower pick. I'm also aware of how many really good players were picked in the 3rd round by other teams.
- MJL


Exactly what you thought? It’s a week old, you should be able to remember the conversation yourself.

Classically in denial.
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Feb 19 @ 2:54 PM ET
Trade the freaking THIRD ROUND PICK for MRAZEK.

Then trade Neuvy and sign MRAZEK to be the 1b for 2 years.

HOW HARD IS IT?

- dragonoffrost

He's got a 4M cap hit now. What would you pay him for the 2 years?
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Feb 19 @ 2:55 PM ET
It's his Lyon eyes I worry about. You can't hide them.
- BiggE



Oh, never tell a secret with your eyes

Its the eyes that let you down

Tell a little truth with many lies

Its the only way I've found
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 19 @ 2:56 PM ET
Exactly what you thought? It’s a week old, you should be able to remember the conversation yourself.

Classically in denial.

- arichardson22


I'm patiently waiting for you to back up the accusation you made. Otherwise it's just babble.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 19 @ 2:57 PM ET
Like I said, I'm against using an asset such as a 3rd round pick for a rental. If they see Mzarek as a player they can re-sign and use as a bridge for a few years to hopefully get a young player such as Hart ready, then I'm okay with that. That brings some other questions into the mix though.
- MJL


but they can also flip his rights at the end of the season. the other questions would what to do with Nuevy and Elliot, one stays and one goes. Either cotract shouldnt be hard to move or buy out or even bury in the AHL. Heck just put Nuevy on the IR who will notice
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 19 @ 2:57 PM ET
Oh, never tell a secret with your eyes

Its the eyes that let you down

Tell a little truth with many lies

Its the only way I've found

- Doc_Sarcasm



dio
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Feb 19 @ 2:58 PM ET
dio
- wcorvette




Thats MISTER Ronnie James Dio to you.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 19 @ 2:59 PM ET
Trade the freaking THIRD ROUND PICK for MRAZEK.

Then trade Neuvy and sign MRAZEK to be the 1b for 2 years.

HOW HARD IS IT?

- dragonoffrost



Yeah. Really it’s not that hard. You can even buyout neuvirth. No one will trade for him and you dont want him on the phantoms with hart and Stolarz around

A 3rd round pick is cheap for a guy capable of a 1B role. Have to wonder why Detroit would be willing to part with him so easily if the rumored 3rd is true
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Feb 19 @ 3:00 PM ET
Trade the freaking THIRD ROUND PICK for MRAZEK.

Then trade Neuvy and sign MRAZEK to be the 1b for 2 years.

HOW HARD IS IT?

- dragonoffrost

Trading Neuvy will be hard.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 19 @ 3:00 PM ET
Or trade Mrazek in the off-season as a RFA.

I'm guessing Hextall doesn't like him or a deal would be done already.

- hereticpride



trade Neuvy and 4th for Mrazek
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 19 @ 3:00 PM ET
He's got a 4M cap hit now. What would you pay him for the 2 years?
- FlyerFan16


Look at our cap situation even if it don't go up it's not going to kill them. For %$^%$&$&$ SAKE. I think I need my blood pressure meds again. Neuvy is garbage he needs to be fired into the sun. I don't even care if they don't resign Mrazek really. I just want 2 stable goalies for the next 5 weeks which we don't have.

You can't call Tokarski up right now. He needs to be in Lehigh's net for the next few weeks as they are in the playoff push also. And that experience will be great for the prospects.

And no way to I roll with Lyon/Muse here and Tokarsi/Dekanich in LHV.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 19 @ 3:00 PM ET
Or trade Mrazek in the off-season as a RFA.

I'm guessing Hextall doesn't like him or a deal would be done already.

- hereticpride


Knowing the way Hexy covets draft picks, since Mrazek is an RFA, maybe he wants a sense of Mrazek contract requests. IIRC, when they traded for Biron. I thought he was going to be a RFA or even a UFA, but they traded for him with the new contract pretty much already hammered out.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 19 @ 3:02 PM ET
Trading Neuvy will be hard.
- Sinisalo4vr


Keeping him on IR though, should be easy.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Feb 19 @ 3:03 PM ET
Does anyone know if the NHL fixed the Patrick Kane loophole in the salary cap? You know, the one where a team can LTIR a player, add an equal salary, then put the LTIR'd player back on the roster once the playoffs start, because there is no salary cap in the playoffs.

Because I could totally see the Flyers doing that with Elliott were he able to play come playoff time (assuming the Flyers do indeed make the playoffs).
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 19 @ 3:03 PM ET
Yeah. Really it’s not that hard. You can even buyout neuvirth. No one will trade for him and you dont want him on the phantoms with hart and Stolarz around

A 3rd round pick is cheap for a guy capable of a 1B role. Have to wonder why Detroit would be willing to part with him so easily if the rumored 3rd is true

- Just5


Detroit is in a terrible spot cap wise and probably can't even afford to qualify him at the end of the season. They pretty much have to make a deal.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 19 @ 3:05 PM ET
Brassard with the Sens intrigues me, really good player and can score. Drop Flip and bring him in. Sens thinking they can get a 1st plus plus, Brassard only has 1 year left on his contract, no way he is worth that, maybe we can trade them our whole fourth line for Brassard?

or maybe they will take a 3rd for him
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 19 @ 3:07 PM ET
but they can also flip his rights at the end of the season. the other questions would what to do with Nuevy and Elliot, one stays and one goes. Either cotract shouldnt be hard to move or buy out or even bury in the AHL. Heck just put Nuevy on the IR who will notice
- wcorvette


They could flip him but they'll likely have to qualify him and that could be risky. I think you should only go after Mzarek if you intend to keep him down the line. There are many ways that they can move Neuvirth but all will likely contain some kind of cap penalty. None of it is the end of the world.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 19 @ 3:08 PM ET
Does anyone know if the NHL fixed the Patrick Kane loophole in the salary cap? You know, the one where a team can LTIR a player, add an equal salary, then put the LTIR'd player back on the roster once the playoffs start, because there is no salary cap in the playoffs.

Because I could totally see the Flyers doing that with Elliott were he able to play come playoff time (assuming the Flyers do indeed make the playoffs).

- Doc_Sarcasm


Still in effect. Cap space is not an issue for this season for the Flyers. They have plenty.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Feb 19 @ 3:09 PM ET
I see your Mrazek, and raise you an Anderson.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 19 @ 3:10 PM ET
Detroit is in a terrible spot cap wise and probably can't even afford to qualify him at the end of the season. They pretty much have to make a deal.
- BiggE


They don't need cap space to qualify him. They could easily do so and then trade him at the draft if they wanted to.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 19 @ 3:11 PM ET
I see your Mrazek, and raise you an Anderson.
- flyer_nutter


Wait a minute Nutter, you actually want to get even older in goalie, Im confused.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 19 @ 3:17 PM ET
in other news Isles down 4-3 in 3rd
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Feb 19 @ 3:17 PM ET
Trade the freaking THIRD ROUND PICK for MRAZEK.

Then trade Neuvy and sign MRAZEK to be the 1b for 2 years.

HOW HARD IS IT?

- dragonoffrost



Mrazek....would be fine at a third rd pick. If he plays well you can tender him. Considering the Flyers predicament....pretty safe to say they need to address problem.
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Feb 19 @ 3:18 PM ET
Look at our cap situation even if it don't go up it's not going to kill them. For %$^%$&$&$ SAKE. I think I need my blood pressure meds again. Neuvy is garbage he needs to be fired into the sun. I don't even care if they don't resign Mrazek really. I just want 2 stable goalies for the next 5 weeks which we don't have.

You can't call Tokarski up right now. He needs to be in Lehigh's net for the next few weeks as they are in the playoff push also. And that experience will be great for the prospects.

And no way to I roll with Lyon/Muse here and Tokarsi/Dekanich in LHV.

- dragonoffrost

He has to do something, I just don't think he'll do this. I reserve the right to be wrong.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Feb 19 @ 3:18 PM ET
Holy holes in the donuts Batman!!


That backread! I'd hate to see what these boards would look like if they weren't gaining points.
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