Exactly.

As I posted a few days ago, no one saw any of the following winning the Cup or going to the finals at the start of the playoffs:

85-86 Canadiens
89-90 Oilers
92-93 Canadiens
97-98 Capitals
02-03 Hurricanes
05-06 Hurricanes
05-06 Oilers
09-10 Flyers
11-12 Devils

A goalie can get hot, your opponent can suffer key injuries, the favorite could get upset in the previous round. All of these can and have happened. To refuse to part with a 3rd round pick to legitimately improve your team's chances in the playoffs is just silly. No one is calling for them to trade Sanheim, Frost, Lindblom, Myers, Rubtsov, Hart or a 1st, just one 3rd round friggin pick.
- BiggE

I updated your list.

An RFA like Mrazek could be a good deal because they can trade his rights after the season. I would hope they get him for less than a third but it isn't the end of the world.

There isn't really a true starting caliber goalie on the market. Just some more 1Bs. Nothing out there is going to replace a healthy Elliott. That is really the reason I prefer going the underwhelming route. I think Johnson is still available. They can play Ullmark

Would anyone have interest in targeting Raanta + Domi?

All of that happened. How many teams in those same years traded picks or prospects to add for a playoff run and came up short? How may years did the Flyers trade picks and or prospects to add for a playoff run only to come up short?
- MJL

Yes, only 2 teams can go to the finals and one wins the Cup. Again, if this was a few years when they were short on prospects and quality youth, I'd be more stingy with my picks. But it's not. I believe it's a good risk to take. Again we are talking a 3rd round pick, or maybe a 4th plus a non top prospect. And before you throw Ghost in my face, go back over the last 10 years and you'll clearly see that the overwhelming majority of NHL 3rd round picks either don't make it to the show at all, or end up as role players.

I would move a 3rd round pick to improve our goaltending, and yes, I get it, you would not. Is what it is.

Ron Hextall:



Draft Picks:

I updated your list.

- FlyerFan16

Well yes and no. Yeah they had a crappy regular season, but prior to the season, the Hockey News picked them to win the Cup, so I'm not really sure how much of an upset it was. However, they certainly filled quite a few of my criteria that year. Favorites were upset in earlier rounds, a couple of Flyer goalies got hot at key times and a key opposing player (Boston's Krejci) got hurt at a key time.

Yes, only 2 teams can go to the finals and one wins the Cup. Again, if this was a few years when they were short on prospects and quality youth, I'd be more stingy with my picks. But it's not. I believe it's a good risk to take. Again we are talking a 3rd round pick, or maybe a 4th plus a non top prospect. And before you throw Ghost in my face, go back over the last 10 years and you'll clearly see that the overwhelming majority of NHL 3rd round picks either don't make it to the show at all, or end up as role players.

I would move a 3rd round pick to improve our goaltending, and yes, I get it, you would not. Is what it is.
- BiggE

I told him to look up this list last week or so and pretty sure he just stuck with Ghost
Patrick Sharp (01) is only impact 3rd round pick in a while for us. Aside from Ghost of course.

Ron Hextall:



Draft Picks:

- Doctor DOOM

MY PRECIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trade a 3rd for a goalie, but get a 4th back by moving Manning. Sanheim could easily take his spot on the third pairing, and he could also help the god awful 2nd PP unit by taking Filppula's position.

Time to take the lid off, Ron. The meal is ready to serve.

I told him to look up this list last week or so and pretty sure he just stuck with Ghost
- arichardson22

Can't let facts alter his false narratives. Funny though, he loves to accuse everyone else of spewing false narratives all the time. Pot, kettle, black etc.....

Trade a 3rd for a goalie, but get a 4th back by moving Manning. Sanheim could easily take his spot on the third pairing, and he could also help the god awful 2nd PP unit by taking Filppula's position.

Time to take the lid off, Ron. The meal is ready to serve.


- Feanor

I updated your list.

- FlyerFan16

there is about a 25-30% chance a 3rd round pick plays 100 games in the NHL. If a 3rd gets you the back up you NEED (depending on health of Nuevy) you do it. You can then trade his rights or make another trade in the off-season to pick up another 3rd.

I think it is easier to do it the Flyers have a pipeline of talent who will fill in the gaps they have, one 3rd pick will not derail what Hextall has built. What derailed the Flyers prior was a philosophy of trading most all picks for vets to win now.

- BiggE

well we agree on food too

Yes, only 2 teams can go to the finals and one wins the Cup. Again, if this was a few years when they were short on prospects and quality youth, I'd be more stingy with my picks. But it's not. I believe it's a good risk to take. Again we are talking a 3rd round pick, or maybe a 4th plus a non top prospect. And before you throw Ghost in my face, go back over the last 10 years and you'll clearly see that the overwhelming majority of NHL 3rd round picks either don't make it to the show at all, or end up as role players.

I would move a 3rd round pick to improve our goaltending, and yes, I get it, you would not. Is what it is.
- BiggE

You're point about Gostisbehere and the likelihood of a 3rd round pick making it to the NHL supports my argument. The more picks you have the more chances maybe you get lucky. It's about the timing in my opinion. They're not at a point where they should be trading picks for rentals in my opinion.

You're point about Gostisbehere and the likelihood of a 3rd round pick making it to the NHL supports my argument. The more picks you have the more chances maybe you get lucky. It's about the timing in my opinion. They're not at a point where they should be trading picks for rentals in my opinion.
- MJL

You are truly a hoot!!

I told him to look up this list last week or so and pretty sure he just stuck with Ghost
Patrick Sharp (01) is only impact 3rd round pick in a while for us. Aside from Ghost of course.
- arichardson22

Feel free to provide the link to this conversation and how I just stuck with Gostisbehere. You're full of it.


How many times the Flyers have hit on a 3rd round pick in the past is irrelevant. If you want to debate my opinion then do so but don't throw out ridiculous claims.

Well yes and no. Yeah they had a crappy regular season, but prior to the season, the Hockey News picked them to win the Cup, so I'm not really sure how much of an upset it was. However, they certainly filled quite a few of my criteria that year. Favorites were upset in earlier rounds, a couple of Flyer goalies got hot at key times and a key opposing player (Boston's Krejci) got hurt at a key time.
- BiggE

I added them to support your point. A team that made the playoffs based on a shootout the last day of the season made it to the finals. If you're in, you have a shot.

I am torn though on giving up the third rounder. Forget Ghost, would you trade Felix Sandstrom for Mrazek? I'd probably go with a lesser guy if possible but I don't know many things, like how long is Neuvirth out (don't trust that he won't get hurt again), what are the odds Elliott doesn't re-injure himself. Would they want to sign Mrazek to a 2-3 year deal and get rid of Neurvirth at the end of the year and Elliott the year after.

You are truly a hoot!!
- BiggE

I understand if you don't see the reasonable point I made and how having more picks can help increase the odds of getting a good player.

Panotch is reporting Neuvirth has a groin pull. Prepare the funeral arrangements.

I told him to look up this list last week or so and pretty sure he just stuck with Ghost
Patrick Sharp (01) is only impact 3rd round pick in a while for us. Aside from Ghost of course.
- arichardson22

3rd round pick 25-30% chance of playing 100 NHL games. Lots of picks in the draft for the Flyers this season and the last 3 seasons, 1 reason you stock pile picks is to be able to trade whether because you want to, or in this case you might have to.

Can't let facts alter his false narratives. Funny though, he loves to accuse everyone else of spewing false narratives all the time. Pot, kettle, black etc.....
- BiggE

The very tactic here that you and your cohort are using is a false narrative.

Panotch is reporting Neuvirth has a groin pull. Prepare the funeral arrangements.
- Doctor DOOM

Does Panotch even have credentials anymore?

I understand if you don't see the reasonable point I made and how having more picks can help increase the odds of getting a good player.
- MJL

You are always right, my bad for even bothering to have a discussion with you. It's pretty much like playing chess with a pigeon. The pigeon always just declares himself the winner, craps all over the board and waddles off happily.

Yup, a true hoot!

I eagerly await your response, because just as you are never wrong, I know you always must get the last word in too.

Have a great day!

3rd round pick 25-30% chance of playing 100 NHL games. Lots of picks in the draft for the Flyers this season and the last 3 seasons, 1 reason you stock pile picks is to be able to trade whether because you want to, or in this case you might have to.
- wcorvette

Nothing wrong with using a draft pick to make a move to improve the team for the future. I don't want them to use a significant draft pick for a playoff rental.

3rd round pick 25-30% chance of playing 100 NHL games. Lots of picks in the draft for the Flyers this season and the last 3 seasons, 1 reason you stock pile picks is to be able to trade whether because you want to, or in this case you might have to.
- wcorvette

MJL>Bobd62