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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 19 @ 10:58 AM ET
I agree. Lyon did not look good in earlier starts but he played really well yesterday.
- MJL


Agree - he didn't look good at all in his other games (imho) but yesterday he was pretty good.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 19 @ 10:58 AM ET
LOL, I'll wait til I actually see Stolarz play again before I worry about finding room for him to move up. He hasn't exactly lit it up in his minor league career either.
- BiggE


I saw someone speculate that he could be offered in a bigger deal to acquire a younger player. Like a mrazek anthanasiou for stolarz and a 2nd type deal. But I don't see it
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 19 @ 10:59 AM ET
I also think it's fine to give Lyon a couple of starts this week and see how he performs. What's the point of drafting & signing goalie prospects if you won't give them a chance when the veterans get injured.
- Feanor


The good news is MTL is the next game, using Lyon there is ok, what do they do after that? You have to have 2 tenders and they both cant be AHLers


on the good side, the CAP situation is in good shape, Worse case Neuvy is a 2.5 mil risk
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 19 @ 10:59 AM ET
I saw someone speculate that he could be offered in a bigger deal to acquire a younger player. Like a mrazek anthanasiou for stolarz and a 2nd type deal. But I don't see it
- Tfaehner


Yeah, I don't see that happening either.

If Colorado loses their next game in regulation, could see it being Bernier.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 19 @ 11:01 AM ET
Yeah, I don't see that happening either.

If Colorado loses their next game in regulation, could see it being Bernier.

- BiggE


Isn't he out with a concussion ?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 19 @ 11:01 AM ET
LOL, I'll wait til I actually see Stolarz play again before I worry about finding room for him to move up. He hasn't exactly lit it up in his minor league career either.
- BiggE


LOL, so you're saying there is no chance for Stolarz to win a roster spot next season if there is an opening?
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Feb 19 @ 11:03 AM ET


somebody please help that bob guy with your/you're

are there any other teams who need to add a goalie?
Doctor DOOM
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Where the bad things are
Joined: 12.13.2017

Feb 19 @ 11:03 AM ET
Pickard. Make it so.

Qualifying offer would be $1,075,000
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 19 @ 11:03 AM ET
http://www.12up.com/posts...lehner-injury?a_aid=43677
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 19 @ 11:06 AM ET
FYI, if Neuvirth is bought out after this season, the cap penalties are:

18-19: 1 million
19-20: 750K
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 19 @ 11:06 AM ET
Pickard. Make it so.

Qualifying offer would be $1,075,000

- Doctor DOOM


I don't expect a playoff team to help us
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 19 @ 11:08 AM ET
LOL, so you're saying there is no chance for Stolarz to win a roster spot next season if there is an opening?
- MJL


No chance? Of course not, but very slim, IMO.

You didn't want to give up anything of significance to improve this team for the playoff drive so I guess you think that there is no chance that the Flyers can win the Cup this year. Not a slim chance or even a very slim chance, but none whatsovever.

Is that what you believe? LOL.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 19 @ 11:08 AM ET
FYI, if Neuvirth is bought out after this season, the cap penalties are:

18-19: 1 million
19-20: 750K

- BiggE


pfft...couch cushion money
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 19 @ 11:09 AM ET
pfft...couch cushion money
- Scoob

wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 19 @ 11:10 AM ET
pfft...couch cushion money
- Scoob



Very true, the options are good for whatever wants to do. The big difference in this franchise since Hextall took over and drafting of course
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 19 @ 11:10 AM ET
No chance? Of course not, but very slim, IMO.

You didn't want to give up anything of significance to improve this team for the playoff drive so I guess you think that there is no chance that the Flyers can win the Cup this year. Not a slim chance or even a very slim chance, but none whatsovever.

Is that what you believe? LOL.

- BiggE


The flyers have to make some organizational decisions this off season. Among them is Morin sanheim manning and than stoly Lyons hart sandstrom Elliot neuvy. Our forwards is a natural progression to me as we have guys leaving and guys coming
Doctor DOOM
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Where the bad things are
Joined: 12.13.2017

Feb 19 @ 11:12 AM ET
I don't expect a playoff team to help us
- Tfaehner


He's played 1 game for them this season and they have another backup signed for next year. They wouldn't want to lose him for nothing.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Feb 19 @ 11:22 AM ET
I think Hexy should pull the trigger sooner then later to allow the new goalie to settle in a bit.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 19 @ 11:22 AM ET
The flyers have to make some organizational decisions this off season. Among them is Morin sanheim manning and than stoly Lyons hart sandstrom Elliot neuvy. Our forwards is a natural progression to me as we have guys leaving and guys coming
- Tfaehner


I think the goalies, at least, will shake themselves out.

Elliott will be with the Flyers
Neuvirth or another veteran NHL goalie will be with him.
Stolarz or Lyon will be with Hart in LVH, the other will likely be moved or just not re-signed in the case that Stolarz shows lingering effects from the injury and struggles.
Sandstrom, as Bill has predicted previously, probably plays one more year in Europe.

The D is trickier. I actually think that Manning or a player comparable to him gets re-signed to fill the 7th spot. That leaves one spot for 2 players (Sanheim & Morin) as I think Myers, when you factor in the time he has missed this year, at least starts 18-19 at LHV. My best guess is that one of Hagg/Gudas is traded at the draft for either a young forward or to move up in the first round.

OTOH, I could be wrong about all of the above, guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 19 @ 11:29 AM ET
I think the goalies, at least, will shake themselves out.

Elliott will be with the Flyers
Neuvirth or another veteran NHL goalie will be with him.
Stolarz or Lyon will be with Hart in LVH, the other will likely be moved or just not re-signed in the case that Stolarz shows lingering effects from the injury and struggles.
Sandstrom, as Bill has predicted previously, probably plays one more year in Europe.

The D is trickier. I actually think that Manning or a player comparable to him gets re-signed to fill the 7th spot. That leaves one spot for 2 players (Sanheim & Morin) as I think Myers, when you factor in the time he has missed this year, at least starts 18-19 at LHV. My best guess is that one of Hagg/Gudas is traded at the draft for either a young forward or to move up in the first round.

OTOH, I could be wrong about all of the above, guess we'll just have to wait and see.

- BiggE


Every conversation I've seen from the organization mentions stoly way before lyons. Lyons I think would have to play his way into being above him over this back stretch. As far as sandstrom I don't know what the best case for him is. I thought Bill said 1 more year was this year not next year. I think he has to he signed by end of next year to elc or he's a free agent as well.

As far as defense Morin injury doesn't help his case. I don't like him or sanheim being the 7th. Sanheim right now is playing lights out in the A and clearly was already ahead of Morin from the organization's standpoint. I don't see us rolling 6 defenseman with 2 rookies I see it as 1 rookie is joining next year and maybe alt is your 7th. Like you said though we could both be wrong
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 19 @ 11:31 AM ET
I think the goalies, at least, will shake themselves out.

Elliott will be with the Flyers
Neuvirth or another veteran NHL goalie will be with him.
Stolarz or Lyon will be with Hart in LVH, the other will likely be moved or just not re-signed in the case that Stolarz shows lingering effects from the injury and struggles.
Sandstrom, as Bill has predicted previously, probably plays one more year in Europe.

The D is trickier. I actually think that Manning or a player comparable to him gets re-signed to fill the 7th spot. That leaves one spot for 2 players (Sanheim & Morin) as I think Myers, when you factor in the time he has missed this year, at least starts 18-19 at LHV. My best guess is that one of Hagg/Gudas is traded at the draft for either a young forward or to move up in the first round.

OTOH, I could be wrong about all of the above, guess we'll just have to wait and see.

- BiggE


Nice job, I think Morin is the odd man out actually. Hexy didnt draft him, the organization at this point thinks Hagg is better and with his physical attributes and time in the AHL his trade value should be very solid. Myers being a RH dmen eventually takes Gudas spot. Sanheim will still be very good.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 19 @ 11:35 AM ET
Nice job, I think Morin is the odd man out actually. Hexy didnt draft him, the organization at this point thinks Hagg is better and with his physical attributes and time in the AHL his trade value should be very solid. Myers being a RH dmen eventually takes Gudas spot. Sanheim will still be very good.
- ravishingone


Morin could be the odd man out, but I think his ceiling is higher than Hagg's and he will be a better penalty killer than Hagg and a much more intimidating force on the ice. But who really knows what Hextall is thinking, he plays his cards very close to the vest.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 19 @ 11:36 AM ET
The last time the Flyers had a Mrazek goalie they went to the SCF.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 19 @ 11:42 AM ET
No chance? Of course not, but very slim, IMO.

You didn't want to give up anything of significance to improve this team for the playoff drive so I guess you think that there is no chance that the Flyers can win the Cup this year. Not a slim chance or even a very slim chance, but none whatsovever.

Is that what you believe? LOL.

- BiggE


The chances of the Flyers winning the Cup are slim. I don't think they are a legit contender. I'm glad you mentioned that though because it segue's perfectly to illustrate my reasoning as to why I don't think the Flyers should give up a significant future asset to acquire a goaltender.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 19 @ 11:43 AM ET
The last time the Flyers had a Mrazek goalie they went to the SCF.
- Scoob



Good old Moses Mrazek, where have ya gone??
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