I would go as high as a 2nd for Mrazek.
- aightwebang17

Why? Are the Flyers going to re-sign him and for how much?

Only the NHL could take something as perfect as their old playoff system, which had them reseeding after every round, and mess it up. It bit them in the ass last season when the top 2 teams points wise had to play each other in the semis.

Winning the division should get you 1 or 2, then after that you seed by points
- MBFlyerfan

yup

Handling the RFA issue is no big deal. Just make him a one year qualifying offer. They will have ample cap room next season, so no worries there. IF he signs it, fine, trade, waive or buyout Neuvirth. And, if he signs elsewhere, again, fine, take the draft picks and move on.
- BiggE

A qualifying offer for Mzarek would be 4.15M

FWIW: Goalies on likely non playoff teams on expiring contracts and what it will likely cost to acquire them

Chad Johnson BUF: 6th round pick. I'd be fine with that deal

Cam Ward CAR: 4th round pick. He's a very popular player there and I don't think they'd move him for less than a 4th. Since he's not worth more than a 6th at this point, I'd pass.

Jonathan Bernier COL: 4th and a B level prospect. It would probably be a fair deal, but I'd rather just move a 6th for Johnson.

Petr Mrazek DET: All kidding aside, I still think you could get him for a 3rd. Detroit can't afford to re-sign him and I doubt anyone would give them any more. He's playing for a new contract and isn't that old. I'd be fine with swapping a 3rd for him, even more than moving a 6th for Johnson. If he's on, he is a very good goalie.

Antti Niemi MTL: 6th round pick. Yeah, he's played well since coming to Montreal, but I'll pass. I just think he's got nothing left.

Ondrej Pavelec NYR: Because its a rival, the Rags likely ask for at least a 5th and perhaps a 4th. I'll pass, I don't even like him for a 6th.

SO, my top 3 targets would be:
1. Mrazek
2. Johnson
3. Bernier

Re Neuvirth: I'd try to move him if possible after the season, and, if there are no takers, bite the relatively small bullet and buy him out. Come back with Elliott and a vet on a 1 year deal next season. If Hart is ready to take the top spot for 19-20, I'd just extend Elliott for 2 years to be the backup/mentor which is a role he should excel in.
- BiggE

You forgot the King lol

Seriously, I think something is up there. Why on earth leave him in for the full game yesterday?

Why? Are the Flyers going to re-sign him and for how much?
- MJL

I just think we are in a pretty desperate situation and he is the best of the bunch that's available.

And he's still an asset after this year. Re-assess goalie positions in the offseason.

A qualifying offer for Mzarek would be 4.15M
- MJL

Which isn't that big of a deal for 1 year if we can move neuvirth. Or trade mrazek rights for a 4th or 5th to recoup some value. I personally wouldn't give a 2nd but I would of given the third.

I don't like the 3rd for mrazek. Maybe part of a larger deal??

Mrazek is a rfa. How do you manage that going forward? Don't offer him a contract? Trade him? We can't offer him a 3 year deal and block someone even if he was ok with backing up.
- Hextall271

Offer him a low cost two year deal. If he doesn't take it, oh well. There are other fish in the sea to backup Elliot.

A qualifying offer for Mzarek would be 4.15M
- MJL

Ok. Now that's a problem. That's a lot and he'd expect to be your starter. Elliott is here on short term and less money for a reason. You don't want to block the kids coming up. Stollie and hart??

Offer him a low cost two year deal. If he doesn't take it, oh well. There are other fish in the sea to backup Elliot.
- Scoob

Yeah. Maybe. I think you have to offer him a qo as and rfa or he just walks. Maybe that's an ok plan but not if you burn a 2nd to get him.

Ok. Now that's a problem. That's a lot and he'd expect to be your starter. Elliott is here on short term and less money for a reason. You don't want to block the kids coming up. Stollie and hart??
- Hextall271

Tbh I don't see him staying with the flyers beyond this run. I think he would see this as a way to heighten his value with a solid playoff run for us

A qualifying offer for Mzarek would be 4.15M
- MJL

For one year, I don't see it as an issue. Unless they are diving into the UFA market, they should have ample cap room in 18-19.

Which isn't that big of a deal for 1 year if we can move neuvirth. Or trade mrazek rights for a 4th or 5th to recoup some value. I personally wouldn't give a 2nd but I would of given the third.
- Tfaehner

should of

I don't like the 3rd for mrazek. Maybe part of a larger deal??

Mrazek is a rfa. How do you manage that going forward? Don't offer him a contract? Trade him? We can't offer him a 3 year deal and block someone even if he was ok with backing up.
- Hextall271

Mrazek is arbitration eligible.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/petr-mrazek

I just think we are in a pretty desperate situation and he is the best of the bunch that's available.

And he's still an asset after this year. Re-assess goalie positions in the offseason.
- aightwebang17

I personally don't think it even remotely close to a level of desperation to give up a 2nd round pick. They can get a decent NHL goalie for far less. Neither Neuvirth or Elliott have been ruled out for the season.

I personally don't think it even remotely close to a level of desperation to give up a 2nd round pick. They can get a decent NHL goalie for far less. Neither Neuvirth or Elliott have been ruled out for the season.
- MJL

My read of hexy would be just that. He may be looking at a bigger deal though with det. They're in rebuild. If there's a young good player that can be had who knows.

For one year, I don't see it as an issue. Unless they are diving into the UFA market, they should have ample cap room in 18-19.
- BiggE

I do. They have both Neuvirth and Elliott signed for next season. If they want to move Neuvirth they'd have to trade him with the possibility of having to retain salary, buy him out, or demote him. All of which means dead money on the cap unless they can trade him without retained salary. It also doesn't leave an opportunity for a younger player such as Stolarz to move up.

I personally don't think it even remotely close to a level of desperation to give up a 2nd round pick. They can get a decent NHL goalie for far less. Neither Neuvirth or Elliott have been ruled out for the season.
- MJL

Thing to consider too is as we move up the standings maybe hexy looks at that 2nd as being closer to a 3rd.

I personally don't think it even remotely close to a level of desperation to give up a 2nd round pick. They can get a decent NHL goalie for far less. Neither Neuvirth or Elliott have been ruled out for the season.
- MJL

I agree with you. There are plenty of goalies available and not enough suitors the guy we get may not be as good but I would not give up a top 62 pick in a deep draft. 2 firsts and the 2nd I expect to be quality future top 9 / top 4 guys. Especially it being a defensive heavy draft o would love to get another high quality d prospect

My read of hexy would be just that. He may be looking at a bigger deal though with det. They're in rebuild. If there's a young good player that can be had who knows.
- Hextall271

AA? I can't even try to spell his name right...

My read of hexy would be just that. He may be looking at a bigger deal though with det. They're in rebuild. If there's a young good player that can be had who knows.
- Hextall271

I would love anthanasiou or mantha. Obviously larkin as well. But I don't think Detroit sells any of them they want to move contracts out for young guys or picks

I do. They have both Neuvirth and Elliott signed for next season. If they want to move Neuvirth they'd have to trade him with the possibility of having to retain salary, buy him out, or demote him. All of which means dead money on the cap unless they can trade him without retained salary. It also doesn't leave an opportunity for a younger player such as Stolarz to move up.
- MJL

I also think it's fine to give Lyon a couple of starts this week and see how he performs. What's the point of drafting & signing goalie prospects if you won't give them a chance when the veterans get injured.

I also think it's fine to give Lyon a couple of starts this week and see how he performs. What's the point of drafting & signing goalie prospects if you won't give them a chance when the veterans get injured.
- Feanor

I agree. Lyon did not look good in earlier starts but he played really well yesterday.

Yeah. Maybe. I think you have to offer him a qo as and rfa or he just walks. Maybe that's an ok plan but not if you burn a 2nd to get him.
- Hextall271

I wouldn't give a 2nd for him so wouldn't care if he walked.

I do. They have both Neuvirth and Elliott signed for next season. If they want to move Neuvirth they'd have to trade him with the possibility of having to retain salary, buy him out, or demote him. All of which means dead money on the cap unless they can trade him without retained salary. It also doesn't leave an opportunity for a younger player such as Stolarz to move up.
- MJL

LOL, I'll wait til I actually see Stolarz play again before I worry about finding room for him to move up. He hasn't exactly lit it up in his minor league career either.

Lehner and Griess hurt. There goes options. Johnson and Halak are now not available.