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youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Feb 19 @ 10:12 AM ET
Emergency call up Carter Hart please
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:13 AM ET
Emergency call up Carter Hart please
- youarewrong


Haha. Dear god. Rush him into number 1 starter role!!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 19 @ 10:14 AM ET
Emergency call up Carter Hart please
- youarewrong

As long as Lyon and Tokarski remain healthy, I don’t believe they can. Rumor has it though that Tokarski was last seen getting on a boat with Riley Cote, Derian Hatcher and Paul Homgren, so......
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:15 AM ET
probably mentioned but apparently lehner is hurt.
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 19 @ 10:19 AM ET
FWIW: Goalies on likely non playoff teams on expiring contracts and what it will likely cost to acquire them

Chad Johnson BUF: 6th round pick. I'd be fine with that deal

Cam Ward CAR: 4th round pick. He's a very popular player there and I don't think they'd move him for less than a 4th. Since he's not worth more than a 6th at this point, I'd pass.

Jonathan Bernier COL: 4th and a B level prospect. It would probably be a fair deal, but I'd rather just move a 6th for Johnson.

Petr Mrazek DET: All kidding aside, I still think you could get him for a 3rd. Detroit can't afford to re-sign him and I doubt anyone would give them any more. He's playing for a new contract and isn't that old. I'd be fine with swapping a 3rd for him, even more than moving a 6th for Johnson. If he's on, he is a very good goalie.

Antti Niemi MTL: 6th round pick. Yeah, he's played well since coming to Montreal, but I'll pass. I just think he's got nothing left.

Ondrej Pavelec NYR: Because its a rival, the Rags likely ask for at least a 5th and perhaps a 4th. I'll pass, I don't even like him for a 6th.

SO, my top 3 targets would be:
1. Mrazek
2. Johnson
3. Bernier

Re Neuvirth: I'd try to move him if possible after the season, and, if there are no takers, bite the relatively small bullet and buy him out. Come back with Elliott and a vet on a 1 year deal next season. If Hart is ready to take the top spot for 19-20, I'd just extend Elliott for 2 years to be the backup/mentor which is a role he should excel in.

- BiggE

24 hours ago I would have said to wait and see if the cost of Mrazek drops to a 4th and then I'd probably pull the trigger. Naturally, Neuvirth can't even make it to the deadline so that changes things. For a 3rd, I'd probably do it but I'm still not sold. If I knew we could bring him back next year in combo with Elliott (while moving Neuvirth like you suggest), I'd do it. But seeing as how he's making 4 mil this year, I doubt that will be happening.

I know we're in a position of need now, but if it's a move for a pure rental, I think I'm only willing to move a 4th or worse with maybe a throw-in, nothing special prospect. None of these guys are good or consistent enough. It's not like we're talking about a Lundqvisit-level talent as a rental (if he was one) being available.

If Bernier was available for a 4th that's my target. Then probably Chad Johnson. Mrazek moves up from 3rd to 1st/2nd if price drops to a 4th.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Feb 19 @ 10:21 AM ET


Chad Johnson BUF: 6th round pick. I'd be fine with that deal

- BiggE



Do we really want a Chad on this team? No, I don't think we do.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:25 AM ET
Emergency call up Carter Hart please
- youarewrong



You keep stating this. There is certain criteria that has to be met to recall a player from juniors on an emergency basis.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:25 AM ET
24 hours ago I would have said to wait and see if the cost of Mrazek drops to a 4th and then I'd probably pull the trigger. Naturally, Neuvirth can't even make it to the deadline so that changes things. For a 3rd, I'd probably do it but I'm still not sold. If I knew we could bring him back next year in combo with Elliott (while moving Neuvirth like you suggest), I'd do it. But seeing as how he's making 4 mil this year, I doubt that will be happening.

I know we're in a position of need now, but if it's a move for a pure rental, I think I'm only willing to move a 4th or worse with maybe a throw-in, nothing special prospect. None of these guys are good or consistent enough. It's not like we're talking about a Lundqvisit-level talent as a rental (if he was one) being available.

If Bernier was available for a 4th that's my target. Then probably Chad Johnson. Mrazek moves up from 3rd to 1st/2nd if price drops to a 4th.

- five4fighting10


Just gonna say the same thing about bernier. That's who I go for if the price is right. Ufa and a solid vet. I'm worried that teams are gonna jack up the price now though.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Feb 19 @ 10:26 AM ET
I would go as high as a 2nd for Mrazek.
flyeredup85
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: ON
Joined: 04.05.2012

Feb 19 @ 10:26 AM ET
Just saw on McKenzie twitter lenher is hurt and flyers are in talks with detroit
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:27 AM ET
You keep stating this. There is certain criteria that has to be met to recall a player from juniors on an emergency basis.
- MJL


Yeah. The consideration is that it's insane. You want to drop a kid into the nhl in a playoff race?? Lyon has been in the a for 2 years, and he's taken a bit to adjust. We want to promote a guy from junior??
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Feb 19 @ 10:28 AM ET
You keep stating this. There is certain criteria that has to be met to recall a player from juniors on an emergency basis.
- MJL


Tell us. Please. I would like to know.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:30 AM ET
Just saw on McKenzie twitter lenher is hurt and flyers are in talks with detroit
- flyeredup85


I don't like the 3rd for mrazek. Maybe part of a larger deal??

Mrazek is a rfa. How do you manage that going forward? Don't offer him a contract? Trade him? We can't offer him a 3 year deal and block someone even if he was ok with backing up.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 19 @ 10:30 AM ET
Just saw on McKenzie twitter lenher is hurt and flyers are in talks with detroit
- flyeredup85


This is not surprising.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 19 @ 10:31 AM ET
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Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:31 AM ET
Just saw on McKenzie twitter lenher is hurt and flyers are in talks with detroit
- flyeredup85


Dreger is saying the same. Two solid sources. Probably true.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Feb 19 @ 10:31 AM ET
Yeah. The consideration is that it's insane. You want to drop a kid into the nhl in a playoff race?? Lyon has been in the a for 2 years, and he's taken a bit to adjust. We want to promote a guy from junior??
- Hextall271


If rules allow is it really going to hurt to have him up for 1-2 games while they figure things out? And if he looks good in practice would it really hurt to give him 1 game? The kid knows pressure situations. He was WJ goalies 2 years ina row. I think he can handle 1 NHL game or backup duty.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 19 @ 10:31 AM ET
Brygalov commented this afternoon that he has been working out and could easily step in for the Flyers
- Byfuglien Ate Me


Were he really in shape I'd love to see that lol
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 19 @ 10:32 AM ET
I don't like the 3rd for mrazek. Maybe part of a larger deal??

Mrazek is a rfa. How do you manage that going forward? Don't offer him a contract? Trade him? We can't offer him a 3 year deal and block someone even if he was ok with backing up.

- Hextall271


Handling the RFA issue is no big deal. Just make him a one year qualifying offer. They will have ample cap room next season, so no worries there. IF he signs it, fine, trade, waive or buyout Neuvirth. And, if he signs elsewhere, again, fine, take the draft picks and move on.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 19 @ 10:32 AM ET
Handling the RFA issue is no big deal. Just make him a one year qualifying offer. They will have ample cap room next season, so no worries there. IF he signs it, fine, trade, waive or buyout Neuvirth. And, if he signs elsewhere, again, fine, take the draft picks and move on.
- BiggE

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 19 @ 10:33 AM ET
That hit on Namestnikov got Travis Wood 2 (two) games.

Two.

- Giroux_Is_God


Miles Wood
He's a sneaky dirty player. Kind of a shame as he's fast and a pretty good hockey player.
Frank him
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 19 @ 10:33 AM ET
If rules allow is it really going to hurt to have him up for 1-2 games while they figure things out? And if he looks good in practice would it really hurt to give him 1 game? The kid knows pressure situations. He was WJ goalies 2 years ina row. I think he can handle 1 NHL game or backup duty.
- youarewrong


IIRC, as long as they have 2 healthy goalie on NHL contracts, can be 1 way or 2 way, they cannot use him. Lyon and Tokarski fit the criteria so it's a non issue for now.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 19 @ 10:35 AM ET
I'll probably be wrong but I have a feeling Neuvirth isn't out that long
- YuenglingJagr


I hope so but I don't think so. I thought he got hurt on the Nash goal with the way he reacted.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:35 AM ET
Tell us. Please. I would like to know.
- youarewrong


Look it up. Flyers have other players that they can use in the organization.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 19 @ 10:35 AM ET
Handling the RFA issue is no big deal. Just make him a one year qualifying offer. They will have ample cap room next season, so no worries there. IF he signs it, fine, trade, waive or buyout Neuvirth. And, if he signs elsewhere, again, fine, take the draft picks and move on.
- BiggE


It may work out fine as you say. Not sure what mrazeks value is right now. I'm happy with Elliott's play really. If you can sign mrazek for 1 or 2 years, maybe he's the 1 a to play 40.
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