Leafs brass needs to determine unless they already know “if D men are being coached repetitively on how to defend in D zone and how to break out successfully” if they see some players have only a “nose” between the eyes and nothing more someone then needs to be moved to make this team better. Yeah I hear you. My wife is a nurse and she left at 615 for day shift and I have twin boys 21 months old so I have to be up.
- BreathLeafs2015

Twin boys 21 months old. You have a full day ahead, my friend. ☺ Take advantage of nap time. 😉 I think if the Leafs can get a legit top 4 D, everyone else can slot in where they're supposed to. Hjalmarsson is so perfect for that team. I hope Lou can get him.

We can joke all we want and make fantasy trades etc but reality needs to sink in:

Leafs have some serious problems at the back end. Is it all on the D men we have or is part on how they are coached?
At times D plays reasonably but last night was outrageous
- BreathLeafs2015

Looking at their D, I doubt it is how they are coached. They need some better personnel, and they also need the team they have to get older and more experienced. The D and the whole team really, it's a good team that is very inexperienced. They need to get into the playoffs and get some experience.

Looking at their D, I doubt it is how they are coached. They need some better personnel, and they also need the team they have to get older and more experienced. The D and the whole team really, it's a good team that is very inexperienced. They need to get into the playoffs and get some experience.
- Zezel

Leafs win with Martin in the the lineup last night, fact


You can't make this poop up

Leafs win with Martin in the the lineup last night, fact


You can't make this poop up
- burn

Whut

Whut
- SofaKingBored

His TOI numbers were .......

Whut
- SofaKingBored

Im bored waiting to go to breakfast, scrolling through twitter

I"ve learned that the leafs need Martin back in the lineup because they've been playing so poorly since they took him out

The leafs 8-2 last 10, but 4-5 could be losses...and Tampa and Boston both have records that rival the leafs in those last 10, and their record is their record

Babsock loves small skilled players, hates muckers and pluggers. Mamagement and coach listening to the media and playing weak players.



It's been quite entertaining.

Im bored waiting to go to breakfast, scrolling through twitter

I"ve learned that the leafs need Martin back in the lineup because they've been playing so poorly since they took him out

The leafs 8-2 last 10, but 4-5 could be losses...and Tampa and Boston both have records that rival the leafs in those last 10, and their record is their record

Babsock loves small skilled players, hates muckers and pluggers. Mamagement and coach listening to the media and playing weak players.



It's been quite entertaining.
- burn

That's enough Twitter for one day...

That's enough Twitter for one day...
- SofaKingBored

It's hilarious that these idiots claim to watch hockey and be knowledgable

Matt Martin
5:16 MINUTES of ice time last game against Pens December 9–2017
1 shot on goal
Marner 3 assists
Bozak 2 G

Hardly a case leafs won because of Martin and hardly a case they lost last night because of his absence

https://www.nhl.com/gamec...tate=final,game_tab=stats

Im bored waiting to go to breakfast, scrolling through twitter

I"ve learned that the leafs need Martin back in the lineup because they've been playing so poorly since they took him out

The leafs 8-2 last 10, but 4-5 could be losses...and Tampa and Boston both have records that rival the leafs in those last 10, and their record is their record

Babsock loves small skilled players, hates muckers and pluggers. Mamagement and coach listening to the media and playing weak players.



It's been quite entertaining.
- burn

And before last night they were 12-3-3 in their last 18. Are they the top contenders for the Cup? No, but they have a shot. Their window is open right now. People want to nitpick about minor pieces in the lineup, but for me there's not much to complain about. They'll take a shot this year, make moves, develop the guys that they have, it's all good right now.

Matt Martin
5:16 MINUTES of ice time last game against Pens December 9–2017
1 shot on goal
Marner 3 assists
Bozak 2 G

Hardly a case leafs won because of Martin and hardly a case they lost last night because of his absence

https://www.nhl.com/gamec...tate=final,game_tab=stats
- BreathLeafs2015

It's so stupid it's comical. Malkin destroys them, this bozo thinks they lost cause they were physically dominated and bringing Martin back in would change that

And before last night they were 12-3-3 in their last 18. Are they the top contenders for the Cup? No, but they have a shot. Their window is open right now. People want to nitpick about minor pieces in the lineup, but for me there's not much to complain about. They'll take a shot this year, make moves, develop the guys that they have, it's all good right now.
- Zezel

Agreed.

Twitter knob: yeah the leafs 12-3-3 but 5-6 of those wins should have been losses, leafs lucky. Tampa and Boston way better because their records are similar, and their record is real. No adjustments needed.


Basically if the stats/records don't align to what I want them to be I'm going to ignore them and make excuses as to why they are what they are.

Things that need to be addressed by the Leafs are a couple of notable holes. Leafs need another right shooting defenseman, that actually plays defense and has good size. For this team to be championship caliber, it needs to move out Jake Gardiner, while he still has term and having a good year statistically.

Although Jacob Trouba is still working his way back from injury, it could be a good for both of Winnipeg and Toronto to contemplate. Leafs get their right handed defender, the Jets get a dynamic skating defender with offense. Leafs already have Rielly and the up and coming Dermott who can fill Jake's shoes as top 4 lefties, on their blueline going forward. Trouba has been trying to get out of Winnipeg for the last couple of years. Leafs should explore this option.

Issue two, is size on the wings. The Leafs have a plethora of speedy small, to mid-sized wingers. JVR has size but doesn't use it effectively. The Leafs need a winger who drives the net and forced defenders to stop such a player from crease crashing. Rick Nash fits the bill. If the money is right, for 2 or 3 years, he seems like what the Leafs require. The money that JVR is asking for, may be what it takes to get Nash signed. Of course, many would say we can't afford him, because of the big 3 being signed after their entry level deals. One way is to sign Nylander and Marner to bridge deals, buying 3 more years before their big paydays. Nylander may be better served, after this year, doing so, because he may get paid more, in 2 to 3 years. It could be enough term to squeeze in a Rick Nash for a playoff run. What it might cost is a JVR going the other way. Rangers get a scorer and younger then Nash that they can probably afford to pay for 5 plus years. Something Lou needs to look at and soon!

If a argument was made that entire leaf team played more physical and wore down pens last game resulting in a 4-3 leaf win and last night the leafs didn’t show up physical would be a good argument for a loss but both leaf - pen games same kinda game different results. Malkin and company had lots of d zone mistakes as well but pens captilized on our D mistakes

Leafs could've won that game. Pit looked just as bad as them in their own end. AM34 could've had 3 goals....ah well in to the next one.

Komarov with that one timer in the third hahaha

Leafs could've won that game. Pit looked just as bad as them in their own end. AM34 could've had 3 goals....ah well in to the next one.

Komarov with that one timer in the third hahaha
- Corn_Logg

Agreed-at least u watched and comprehend

Leafs could've won that game. Pit looked just as bad as them in their own end. AM34 could've had 3 goals....ah well in to the next one.

Komarov with that one timer in the third hahaha
- Corn_Logg

Didn't really hear Crosby's name all game. AM34 did a great job despite missing the backhands.

Didn't really hear Crosby's name all game. AM34 did a great job despite missing the backhands.
- Drapz

Matthews line played Crosby's line to a standstill. By cancelling them out, it was the teams second lines that decided the outcome. Our defense was worse than theirs, but not by much.

Matthews line played Crosby's line to a standstill. By cancelling them out, it was the teams second lines that decided the outcome. Our defense was worse than theirs, but not by much.
- PrinceLH

Game could have went either way... but yeah, their D was better... and our goalie was human again

Agreed.

Twitter knob: yeah the leafs 12-3-3 but 5-6 of those wins should have been losses, leafs lucky. Tampa and Boston way better because their records are similar, and their record is real. No adjustments needed.


Basically if the stats/records don't align to what I want them to be I'm going to ignore them and make excuses as to why they are what they are.
- burn

Matthews line played Crosby's line to a standstill. By cancelling them out, it was the teams second lines that decided the outcome. Our defense was worse than theirs, but not by much.
- PrinceLH

Basically they played Malkin against 2 little boys and an old man and won the game. Our third line was better but their 4th line got the gwg.

Good game didn't look like the penguins had home ice.

Agreed.

Twitter knob: yeah the leafs 12-3-3 but 5-6 of those wins should have been losses, leafs lucky. Tampa and Boston way better because their records are similar, and their record is real. No adjustments needed.


Basically if the stats/records don't align to what I want them to be I'm going to ignore them and make excuses as to why they are what they are.
- burn

Yeah, good teams win those games that 'should' have been losses. The Leafs have things to improve but they also have an ace goaltender, and in a bunch of games they should have been wins because of the goalie, who is part of the team, that's hockey.

Didn't see the game, but sounds like their depth beat our depth.

Who was Malkin out against all night?

Didn't see the game, but sounds like their depth beat our depth.

Who was Malkin out against all night?
- gravyface

Kadri line. They had a couple good shots but for the most part we’re getting hemmed in by Malkin.

Reading some of the posts from you guys quoting other "fans" posts.

Guess for those "knowledgeable" fans it's against their code to give credit where credit is due. Can't respect a Malkin or Crosby or the likes because they happen to have outplayed your team in one game. Stoopid homers.