I love high scoring games

It’s like a canoe race. If one boat has 10 guys paddling and the other boat has 6, the fact that the 6 are even in the race is impressive. You don’t blame the six, you blame the empty seats.

We have positions of need, and we have to find plugins that will do their job beyond just giving the six a couple of minutes off the ice.

This is not a throw away roster, it’s a “keep adding” roster.

Look at the schedule and count the number of points we’ve lost in one goal games or one goal and empty netter games. And blowouts, imo, have to be considered in light of the team’s demonstrated ability to play with and sometimes beat the league’s best teams. Yes, the six get blown out sometimes. They are outgunned and exhausting themselves always.

PS I don’t know if we have 6 or 5 or 7 or even 8 but you get the idea.
- Der Kaiser

Opinions vary.
I had to laugh yesterday when O’Reilly and Samson came up the ice through the neutral zone. The Kings D left the ice, showered, had a nice snack and a couple of beers at the local pub, ubered back, x hanged into their uni’s and got back on the ice to force the play into the corners where a turnover occurred.

I like ROR, and I really wanted to like Reino. Both are skilled and slow rendering them both much less effective than they could be. They both will be pushed down the lineup when the team finally does become good.

For that reason, I won’t shed a tear if / when they get traded..now or two years from now.

Well, u obviously missed the point

A couple years ago, you’d have said the same things about the Leafs
Now they’re a perennial playoff team & a couple players away from being a legit contender

Bad teams take BIG leaps every year
EVERY year

We have the makings to do that

Will we?
To be determined

U can either remain hopeful,
or be pessimistic like u are

Either way...
NOTHING u say is gonna have an effect on this team
So why not remain hopeful?
- jdfitz77

I don’t think I missed the point at all.
Yes, of course bad teams find the formula, in different ways mind you, to become a winnin organization. Duh!

THIS Sabres organization hasn’t since their inception in 1970...47 years and counting.
Yes, of course they had some really, really good teams too, I fully recognize that...and some misfortunes along the way.
Still, nothing, nada , zero, ... you get the point.

So bring all the facts about other teams...good for them...but they ain’t the Sabres.

Get my point now?

The issue I have here is 6 people are paddling the boat in different directions...
- Stripes77

Exactly. His premise operates under the assumption that these 6 or 7 guys are all paddling in the right direction to varying extents (i.e making a positive contribution in some way)

This literally can't be the case otherwise we wouldn't be in the hunt for last place having spent 70 million dollars on the cap.

Neuvirth sustained lower body injury, fyi

Exactly. His premise operates under the assumption that these 6 or 7 guys are all paddling in the right direction to varying extents (i.e making a positive contribution in some way)

This literally can't be the case otherwise we wouldn't be in the hunt for last place having spent 70 million dollars on the cap.
- Sabresfan-365

this is a good post

it's not like we have 2 or 3 bad eggs bringing this team down

we have 15 to 16 bad eggs on most nights

Neuvirth sustained lower body injury, fyi
- Powerslave

We will just wait and be happy

I lost hope in that Robin deal if the flyers said no to a 3rd for Mrazek Robin has to be worth a 4th to them
- GERBE!!!75PTS

The Flyers had a healthy goaltender at that point

Now they don't

So that raises what they're going to have to pay

Neuvirth sustained lower body injury, fyi
- Powerslave

Lehner and Beaulieu for Gudas



at least then we can have someone on our back end hit someone

Lehner and Beaulieu for Gudas



at least then we can have someone on our back end hit someone
- homiedclown

That trade proposal is so ridigudas, I love it

serious question, how many people do you really think are actually paddling this canoe with any sort of consistency?

It's not overly complicated, when you spend close to the cap and are still terrible its because the guys you've paid to be difference makers aren't making a difference.
- Sabresfan-365

This.
And in the 6 man canoe, two (2) are deliberately putting their oars in without rowing to purposely cause drag, another has decided to put his feet up for the first 3/4 of the race, then row like crazy for 1/4.
THEY ARE NOT CLOSE.
The talented are of weak mind and cannot be counted on when facing steep competition...they will crumble in the playoffs.
Call me what you will, but that is the truth.

this is a good post

it's not like we have 2 or 3 bad eggs bringing this team down

we have 15 to 16 bad eggs on most nights
- homiedclown

I think we sometimes over complicate (myself included) what goes into winning in the NHL.

Its not the easiest but it's by far the simplest in terms of what goes into building a winning team. there may be different ways to construct it but ultimately they all follow 2 key criteria

1) get good draft value
2) get good cap value

Our production relative to where said player was picked is extremely low at the moment (made worse by the fact that darcy spent years playing it safe from round 2-7)

Our production relative to cap is very bad too.

Every team operates under the same limit (save for the cheap ass teams). Great teams are getting 90 mil worth of production out of 70 mil of spending. The bad teams either didnt spend it or spent it poorly, like us getting 50 mil worth of production for 70 mil spent.

Miles wood got 2 (frank)ing games

That trade proposal is so ridigudas, I love it
- Powerslave

I am sick and tired of watching 18 skaters going through the motions without any emotion


it's not like they are talented, they are not


risto, meh
ror, meh
skunk, meh
okposo, meh
scandella, meh
kane, meh


and that is the top third of our current roster

Exactly. His premise operates under the assumption that these 6 or 7 guys are all paddling in the right direction to varying extents (i.e making a positive contribution in some way)

This literally can't be the case otherwise we wouldn't be in the hunt for last place having spent 70 million dollars on the cap.
- Sabresfan-365

I am not a “Kane is irreplaceable guy.” I am a “we need a sniper guy”. I am not advocating that we keep Bogo or Moulson. We all know Gorges is gone at the end of the year.

There are contracts that need to be, and I believe will be, replaced with players who will inevitably make greater contributions to the team’s success.

We have close to $6M in cap space now, and the guys who haven’t been difference makers are already out of the lineup. Now we just need to get the contracts gone.

I’m not an armchair GM, don’t ask me how I propose to do that. I’m a busy executive and don’t know or care how the GM rules work.

Miles wood got 2 (frank)ing games


- Sabresfan-365

the league is a joke and that hit changed the momentum in the game IMO

More cow bell

the league is a joke and that hit changed the momentum in the game IMO
- homiedclown

Queque up Kane to Lightning rumors!

I am not a “Kane is irreplaceable guy.” I am a “we need a sniper guy”. I am not advocating that we keep Bogo or Moulson. We all know Gorges is gone at the end of the year.

There are contracts that need to be, and I believe will be, replaced with players who will inevitably make greater contributions to the team’s success.

We have close to $6M in cap space now, and the guys who haven’t been difference makers are already out of the lineup. Now we just need to get the contracts gone.

I’m not an armchair GM, don’t ask me how I propose to do that. I’m a busy executive and don’t know or care how the GM rules work.
- Der Kaiser

Again that's not the core issue. the core issue is we have paid guys for the purpose of being difference makers and they have hardly made a difference.

Beaulieu is bad. Beaulieu at 14 minutes a night is not the reason this team is a point or so out of last place. It literally can't be the reason

Queque up Kane to Lightning rumors!
- IonSabres

they never went away

Lehner and Beaulieu for Gudas



at least then we can have someone on our back end hit someone
- homiedclown

Please god no

Beaulieu is bad. Beaulieu at 14 minutes a night is not the reason this team is a point or so out of last place. It literally can't be the reason
- Sabresfan-365

this

IMO it's more the top 9, minus jack and the top 4 d


that is why we suck


even the players with talent on those roles, are not even preforming average

Again that's not the core issue. the core issue is we have paid guys for the purpose of being difference makers and they have hardly made a difference.

Beaulieu is bad. Beaulieu at 14 minutes a night is not the reason this team is a point or so out of last place. It literally can't be the reason
- Sabresfan-365

I believe you are underestimating the power of synergy and critical mass. We haven’t reached critical mass.

Beaullieu isn’t the issue, and I’m not saying he is. The lack of sniper is the issue. The lack of true #1 pairing is the issue. The lack of a PP quarterback is the issue.

The beaullieus Pomminvilles Nolan’s Girgs and Larssons aren’t the issue, but they’re not the solution either.

this

IMO it's more the top 9, minus jack and the top 4 d


that is why we suck


even the players with talent on those roles, are not even preforming average
- homiedclown

It's like taking over an agency that's bleeding money and blaming it on the guys they have in the mail room or assitants. those guys barely have a say in what goes on.

I believe you are underestimating the power of synergy and critical mass. We haven’t reached critical mass.

Beaullieu isn’t the issue, and I’m not saying he is. The lack of sniper is the issue. The lack of true #1 pairing is the issue. The lack of a PP quarterback is the issue.

The beaullieus Pomminvilles Nolan’s Girgs and Larssons aren’t the issue, but they’re not the solution either.
- Der Kaiser

Agreed, but where does the idea that they are close come in. they lack a true #1 pair. thats, at the minimum, 2 very good defenders.

I wouldn't put that in the "close" category