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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 15 @ 11:29 AM ET
I dislike the CHL/NHL rules. I think each team should be allowed to pull one 19 year old out of the CHL early to play in the AHL. It's clear Frost is ready for the next level of competition.

The AHL would be the perfect spot for him to start next season. I think the same thing was said about Laughton and Morin.

- VladDrag


I agree. I understand why they are in place, but IMO it hurts certain players to the benefit of the leagues.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 15 @ 11:31 AM ET
Yep. And it's not like Strome isn't already a better skater that 99% of the people in this world. He has some bad habits that can be corrected.

All that other stuff, the kid can play hockey......

- MBFlyerfan

Ive said before I am not a huge skating guy, but all skating issues aren't equal. Lindblom needed to be quicker. Strome needs to learn how to skate
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Feb 15 @ 11:32 AM ET
About the ab surgery thing.

All hernias require abdominal surgeries but not all ab surgeries are for hernias.

You can get surgery on a torn abdominal muscle (transverse or rectus abdominis, oblique, and one other one I'm forgetting) just like you can get surgery on a torn groin.

A hernia is a specific incident when the intestine pokes through the abdominal wall, which is not a muscle, but connective tissue which sperate things from stuff.

To me it sounded like he had surgery on a torn ab muscle, which would make sense because you would be in acute pain like he was after tearing any muscle, an included. Hernias are typically chronic.

- Giroux_Is_God


What's the specific difference between a sports hernia and a regular hernia? Because, I'm reading there is a difference. http://www.sportshernia.c...ernia-or-inguinal-hernia/
SimmerDown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Cold North
Joined: 12.07.2017

Feb 15 @ 11:33 AM ET
Ive said before I am not a huge skating guy, but all skating issues aren't equal. Lindblom needed to be quicker. Strome needs to learn how to skate
- YuenglingJagr

Scott Hartnell has had a decent career for someone who can't skate.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 15 @ 11:33 AM ET
SSM will lose a bunch of guys next year. It might be a good thing for Frost. They will likely still have Hayton and Sandin, Roth (who Bill mentioned). They gave up a lot of assets to push this year, so I am wondering if they would trade Frost. I suspect he will stay another season and do the WJC thing.
- YuenglingJagr


Which would make him even more impressive if he broke 100 b2b
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 15 @ 11:39 AM ET
Bill, since you know both teams well. Do you see any fit for a Lehtonen trade between the Stars and Flyers? Figure Dallas may want to clear his cap hit to make other additions.
- Baxter27


Hadn't even thought about Kari, to be honest. Not sure the Stars would want to put all their eggs in the basket of Bishop being healthy and on top of his game for the duration of the stretch and playoffs. There have been a few times Hitch has given Lehtonen more than a spot start here and there although its' about a 2-to-1 ratio in terms of starts and more than that the last few months.

But Lehtonen won't be back with the Stars next season (after a long run in Dallas) and I suppose it is possible that he could be moved. Thing is, the Stars' pre-deadline outlook is to possibly add a piece for the stretch and playoffs, not sell a piece for a draft pick or prospect.

That's a long-winded way of saying I don't think there's a fit.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 15 @ 11:40 AM ET
What's the specific difference between a sports hernia and a regular hernia? Because, I'm reading there is a difference. http://www.sportshernia.c...ernia-or-inguinal-hernia/
- VladDrag

Enough is enough. We need diagrams.



As you can see from this googled image. Trust me, I have thought long and hard about this. It seems like it could be either "hockey players syndrome" or just a regular "sports hernia"
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 15 @ 11:42 AM ET
Ive said before I am not a huge skating guy, but all skating issues aren't equal. Lindblom needed to be quicker. Strome needs to learn how to skate
- YuenglingJagr


I still think Lindblom needs to be a little quicker. That's the piece to fully conquer before he is ready for the role the Flyers envision him in. I'd also like to see him on a different line with the Phantoms. The line with Vorobyev and Read has been good on puck possession from the eyeball test at least, but isn't scoring much of anything.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 15 @ 11:42 AM ET
Hadn't even thought about Kari, to be honest. Not sure the Stars would want to put all their eggs in the basket of Bishop being healthy and on top of his game for the duration of the stretch and playoffs. There have been a few times Hitch has given Lehtonen more than a spot start here and there although its' about a 2-to-1 ratio in terms of starts and more than that the last few months.

But Lehtonen won't be back with the Stars next season (after a long run in Dallas) and I suppose it is possible that he could be moved. Thing is, the Stars' pre-deadline outlook is to possibly add a piece for the stretch and playoffs, not sell a piece for a draft pick or prospect.

That's a long-winded way of saying I don't think there's a fit.

- bmeltzer


I didn't think any contenders would give up a back up that's wht I thought dell name being floated was ridiculous. If we get a goalie other than Chad Johnson who gets floated a lot who are the more likely candidates ?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 15 @ 11:43 AM ET
What's the specific difference between a sports hernia and a regular hernia? Because, I'm reading there is a difference. http://www.sportshernia.c...ernia-or-inguinal-hernia/
- VladDrag

Inguinal hernia is a sports hernia. The V shape that points towards the Richardular region is the inguinal hernia location. Umbilical hernia is an old person/baby hernia. Belly button swells up. Nomenclature depends on where the tear is.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 15 @ 11:46 AM ET
I still think Lindblom needs to be a little quicker. That's the piece to fully conquer before he is ready for the role the Flyers envision him in. I'd also like to see him on a different line with the Phantoms. The line with Vorobyev and Read has been good on puck possession from the eyeball test at least, but isn't scoring much of anything.
- bmeltzer

I truly don't know if he will ever be what the Flyers envision him in (from what I have heard they envision in him). I have my doubts. I just think he will be a very good, valuable player.

edit: I must also add that I don't see how any of it is really tied to playing more minutes and in all situations in the AHL vs NHL.
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Feb 15 @ 11:46 AM ET
Enough is enough. We need diagrams.



As you can see from this googled image. Trust me, I have thought long and hard about this. It seems like it could be either "hockey players syndrome" or just a regular "sports hernia"

- YuenglingJagr


lol.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 15 @ 11:47 AM ET
Enough is enough. We need diagrams.



As you can see from this googled image. Trust me, I have thought long and hard about this. It seems like it could be either "hockey players syndrome" or just a regular "sports hernia"

- YuenglingJagr


tight richard man
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 15 @ 11:51 AM ET
I truly don't know if he will ever be what the Flyers envision him in. I have my doubts. I just think he will be a very good, valuable player.
- YuenglingJagr


I don't understand why he can't come in and be coots esque early in his career and grow in time. I don't see anything wrong with a defensive responsible guy who pots 10/20/30 and is good in the dirty areas. I mean coots is a 3c and look what he's doing
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 15 @ 11:52 AM ET
Herds in the next horse - Have at it fellas.
- SimmerDown

That horse had no chance
SimmerDown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Cold North
Joined: 12.07.2017

Feb 15 @ 11:57 AM ET
I don't understand why he can't come in and be coots esque early in his career and grow in time. I don't see anything wrong with a defensive responsible guy who pots 10/20/30 and is good in the dirty areas. I mean coots is a 3c and look what he's doing
- Tfaehner

I'm cool if that's how it plays out. He may have been over hyped last year by having such a good season over seas but now reality is settling in and more suitable expectations have arrived.
Doctor DOOM
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Where the bad things are
Joined: 12.13.2017

Feb 15 @ 12:02 PM ET
I didn't think any contenders would give up a back up that's wht I thought dell name being floated was ridiculous. If we get a goalie other than Chad Johnson who gets floated a lot who are the more likely candidates ?
- Tfaehner


Any backup goalie on a non contending team with no term. Mrazek, Pickard, etc.

I think Hextall rides it out, his comments on the situation would suggest so.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 15 @ 12:05 PM ET
Any backup goalie on a non contending team with no term. Mrazek, Pickard, etc.

I think Hextall rides it out, his comments on the situation would suggest so.

- Doctor DOOM


I personally think his comments are posturing so that teams don't see him as desperate and over price guys.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 15 @ 12:06 PM ET
I personally think his comments are posturing so that teams don't see him as desperate and over price guys.
- Tfaehner


You'd like to think that but any GM right now who gets a call from Hextall is going to bump for a little more.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 15 @ 12:10 PM ET
You'd like to think that but any GM right now who gets a call from Hextall is going to bump for a little more.
- dragonoffrost


Yup and I think he will wait it out and than when the team is about to get nothing for a pending ufa 24 hours before the deadline is up they'll trade it for less
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Feb 15 @ 12:19 PM ET

Take a moment to appreciate the fact that the “Philly Special”, maybe the gutsiest play call in the history of the NFL, may have never occurred if Pederson didn’t instill that confidence in his players to make that suggestion and ultimately trust their input.

from:

https://www.broadstreetho...erson-better-than-hakstol
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Feb 15 @ 12:22 PM ET
Inguinal hernia is a sports hernia. The V shape that points towards the Richardular region is the inguinal hernia location. Umbilical hernia is an old person/baby hernia. Belly button swells up. Nomenclature depends on where the tear is.
- Giroux_Is_God


I have had 2 inguinal repairs in my lifetime, one of which was a bi-lateral. Both were my fault and separated by several years so I think the "chronic" nature can be a tad overblown.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 15 @ 12:22 PM ET
Take a moment to appreciate the fact that the “Philly Special”, maybe the gutsiest play call in the history of the NFL, may have never occurred if Pederson didn’t instill that confidence in his players to make that suggestion and ultimately trust their input.

from:

https://www.broadstreetho...erson-better-than-hakstol

- ggunky


Let's also appreciate that Pederson grew remarkably in his role. I'm as big a hasktol hater as anyone but he's gotten better. I still rank him in the bottom half of nhl coaches. As the youth movement continues by end of next season I think we will know whether hasktol has what it takes or if he's the next Berube.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 15 @ 12:26 PM ET
This is all good information.

I didn't realize there was such a vas deferens with the surgeries.

/shows self out
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 15 @ 12:28 PM ET
This is all good information.

I didn't realize there was such a vas deferens with the surgeries.

/shows self out

- johndewar


Please don't whip that out ever again.
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