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gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Feb 14 @ 9:46 AM ET
I'm pretty much thrilled to be on the other side of the fence of anything you say. I don't know if thrilled is a strong enough word for the point I'm trying to make here.
- Hatboro_Swords



Solid
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 14 @ 9:48 AM ET
12 pts in his first 15 games

7 in his next 15

11 in the next 15

13 in his last 11

Pretty consistent. Q2 was a little bad, Q4 is very good

- jcragcrumple


I more or less meant his overall play, not so much his offense. However, one should expect more for the highest paid player on the team (this year).
Simple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 09.24.2013

Feb 14 @ 9:48 AM ET
5-6 teams in on Kane, 2 are solid but the offers are weak.
- SABRES 89


Heard very similar to you. I think you will have more solid info as I get it from a friend who texts someone inside, so the telephone game is in full effect! I just enjoy hearing whatever I can and being entertained.

With multiple suitors on Kane, I would think we can fetch a 1st, even with his contract expiring. From what I am told, if we don't, we'll keep him. Still blows my mind Gaustad got a 1st in the past! And to relate, Shattenkirk was dealt for a first and then signed with NY. Hoping we can piggy back off of those.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 14 @ 9:48 AM ET
O'Reilly has been pretty consistently good all year. He's had a bump in points recently, yes. Your original comment that "he sucks all year" is hyperbole to the max
- jcragcrumple


No he hasn’t it was Jack Eichel the great elite Kane half the year sure he would chip in a few shots here in there the only thing he did that was elite is the face-offs

And do you still think he’s better than Bergeron
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 14 @ 9:49 AM ET
5-6 teams in on Kane, 2 are solid but the offers are weak.
- SABRES 89

I think Botterill overplayed his hand.

I think the return for Kane is going to be Conditional 2nd rd pick and prospect, also a Cap dump.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 14 @ 9:50 AM ET
No he hasn’t it was Jack Eichel the great elite Kane half the year sure he would chip in a few shots here in there the only thing he did that was elite is the face-offs

And do you still think he’s better than Bergeron

- GERBE!!!75PTS

You're wrong. End of story.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 14 @ 9:50 AM ET
I think Botterill overplayed his hand.

I think the return for Kane is going to be Conditional 2nd rd pick and prospect, also a Cap dump.

- ImThatGuy


I'm just waiting for the I told you so's. Those are the most exciting parts of trades.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 14 @ 9:51 AM ET
I more or less meant his overall play, not so much his offense. However, one should expect more for the highest paid player on the team (this year).
- TheSabresTaco




I expect around 20 goals and 55-60 points. That's what he usually/should do imo
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 14 @ 9:51 AM ET
You're wrong. End of story.
- ImThatGuy


Are we in the playoffs?

Nope 30th he sure made an impact on this team
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 14 @ 9:54 AM ET
No he hasn’t it was Jack Eichel the great elite Kane half the year sure he would chip in a few shots here in there the only thing he did that was elite is the face-offs

And do you still think he’s better than Bergeron

- GERBE!!!75PTS




Go back and read the points breakdown i posted on the last page. Your first paragraph is silly.

And re: Bergeron, i said i'd rather have ROR under contract than Bergeron because ROR is almost 6 year younger. Yeah, i stick by that. Bergeron is 32 and will hit a wall well before ROR. He's on plce for a career year at 32. You tell me: is that sustainable?

Bergeron is having a good year though, good for him. But like everything on hockeybuzz, Bergeron has more points right now, so he'll always be better at everything in every category
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 14 @ 9:55 AM ET
I expect around 20 goals and 55-60 points. That's what he usually/should do imo
- jcragcrumple


For the amount of money he gets he should be top 3 for Selke every year
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 14 @ 9:55 AM ET
Are we in the playoffs?

Nope 30th he sure made an impact on this team

- GERBE!!!75PTS

by that theory

OEL
Erik KArlsson
Matt Duchene
Conor McDavid
Jack Eichel
Leon Driasaitl
Patrick Kane
Jonathan Toews
Duncan Keith

All terrible hockey players because their teams are not in the playoffs.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Feb 14 @ 9:56 AM ET
Heard very similar to you. I think you will have more solid info as I get it from a friend who texts someone inside, so the telephone game is in full effect! I just enjoy hearing whatever I can and being entertained.

With multiple suitors on Kane, I would think we can fetch a 1st, even with his contract expiring. From what I am told, if we don't, we'll keep him. Still blows my mind Gaustad got a 1st in the past! And to relate, Shattenkirk was dealt for a first and then signed with NY. Hoping we can piggy back off of those.

- Simple

Like you said, the back and fourth game. Deals change all the time and i'm sure what we are are hearing will change again also.

I think Nash is going to go before Kane, but Kane may bring more due to his age. Nash also has a NTC and Kane does not.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 14 @ 9:57 AM ET
by that theory

OEL
Erik KArlsson
Matt Duchene
Conor McDavid
Jack Eichel
Leon Driasaitl
Patrick Kane
Jonathan Toews
Duncan Keith

All terrible hockey players because their teams are not in the playoffs.

- ImThatGuy[/quote. The fact that you’re even bringing up those great players and comparing it to a Ryan O’Reilly ends the discussion
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Feb 14 @ 9:58 AM ET
Just like two months ago I said Z would be a top 2 pick you went on to say I was wrong
- GERBE!!!75PTS




Hasn’t been picked there yet and not like it was a stretch going from #4-5 to 2. Happens all the time.

You also said that the Browns will take Allen #1. We will see when that happens(or doesn’t)
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 14 @ 9:58 AM ET
For the amount of money he gets he should be top 3 for Selke every year
- GERBE!!!75PTS



If my grandma had wheels, she'd be a bicycle.

Things could be different, but they're not.

He's a good player making a good salary.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Feb 14 @ 9:59 AM ET
Happy lent day !!!!!!!
- GERBE!!!75PTS

What's all this?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 14 @ 10:02 AM ET
[quote=ImThatGuy]by that theory

OEL
Erik KArlsson
Matt Duchene
Conor McDavid
Jack Eichel
Leon Driasaitl
Patrick Kane
Jonathan Toews
Duncan Keith

All terrible hockey players because their teams are not in the playoffs.

- GERBE!!!75PTS[/quote. The fact that you’re even bringing up those great players and comparing it to a Ryan O’Reilly ends the discussion


I'm not, I'm using your theory. you are the one that said it not me, maybe you should actually think before you type and not back yourself into corners.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 14 @ 10:02 AM ET
Go back and read the points breakdown i posted on the last page. Your first paragraph is silly.

And re: Bergeron, i said i'd rather have ROR under contract than Bergeron because ROR is almost 6 year younger. Yeah, i stick by that. Bergeron is 32 and will hit a wall well before ROR. He's on plce for a career year at 32. You tell me: is that sustainable?

Bergeron is having a good year though, good for him. But like everything on hockeybuzz, Bergeron has more points right now, so he'll always be better at everything in every category

- jcragcrumple


Ok I can understand that response but can you finally say he’s a HOF player now ?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 14 @ 10:03 AM ET
What's all this?
- jochfr



So 2000 years ago a jewish prophet walked around and made an impression on some people. Then he died and 3 generations later, some people made up some stories to make him sound cooler. Now we eat deep-fried fish on friday as a symbol of our love to this man.

I think
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 14 @ 10:03 AM ET
Ok I can understand that response but can you finally say he’s a HOF player now ?
- GERBE!!!75PTS



Yeah, he'll be HOF.

My whole thing on that is that his offensive statistics were never THAT great. this year helps that argument and maybe he can put together 2 or 3 more good seasons
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 14 @ 10:06 AM ET
I'm not, I'm using your theory. you are the one that said it not me, maybe you should actually think before you type and not back yourself into corners.
- ImThatGuy



But that’s just idiotic to say you know why those players are having a bad year .. but yet again ROR gets a pass

I just want your honest opinion are you happy with ROR or did you expect more
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 14 @ 10:07 AM ET
Yeah, he'll be HOF.

My whole thing on that is that his offensive statistics were never THAT great. this year helps that argument and maybe he can put together 2 or 3 more good seasons

- jcragcrumple


Thank you !!! Your back on my good side
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 14 @ 10:09 AM ET
But that’s just idiotic to say you know why those players are having a bad year .. but yet again ROR gets a pass

I just want your honest opinion are you happy with ROR or did you expect more

- GERBE!!!75PTS

I was sour on him i the very beginning, but he is literllay being run dry by this team.
He is on pace for 65 points, on this team playing with Benoit Pouliot, Girgensons, and other crap wingers.

When this team is finally good, and gets some actual talent on the D and Wing, ROR will be a damn good 2nd line center at a great contract.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 14 @ 10:09 AM ET
Anyways with the deadline coming up I’m hoping we are actually adding “Max Domi”

He hits the number one thing that we need speed and he fits the right age group but I also think this could be a Danny Briere story

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