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classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Feb 13 @ 2:05 PM ET


The Rangers asked for Gabe Vilardi




Can you imagine???

Filip Forsberg Trade 2.0. Probably even worse.
BigDog912
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2017

Feb 13 @ 2:08 PM ET
To be honest. Let leafs sign Karlsson. He was the best defenseman in the world. He will turn 28 when contract begins. He will be signing a huge 8 year contract for well north of 10 million. And with that knee injury he just doesn’t look like the same man. He lost the speed that made him so great. And while he was better then most gave him credit for defensively. You will be expecting a point per game for that much money and leaf fans will loose their mind. And his prime is over.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 13 @ 2:12 PM ET
To be honest. Let leafs sign Karlsson. He was the best defenseman in the world. He will turn 28 when contract begins. He will be signing a huge 8 year contract for well north of 10 million. And with that knee injury he just doesn’t look like the same man. He lost the speed that made him so great. And while he was better then most gave him credit for defensively. You will be expecting a point per game for that much money and leaf fans will loose their mind. And his prime is over.
- BigDog912


jnyfive
New York Rangers
Joined: 02.07.2010

Feb 13 @ 2:13 PM ET
if its on the internet it must be true
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Feb 13 @ 2:15 PM ET
To be honest. Let leafs sign Karlsson. He was the best defenseman in the world. He will turn 28 when contract begins. He will be signing a huge 8 year contract for well north of 10 million. And with that knee injury he just doesn’t look like the same man. He lost the speed that made him so great. And while he was better then most gave him credit for defensively. You will be expecting a point per game for that much money and leaf fans will loose their mind. And his prime is over.
- BigDog912


I agree with a lot of what you said.

But it wasn't his knee. It was his ankle
and he is the first player to have the procedure done in the NHL, and he has artificial junk in there. He doesnt turn as quick, and skate as quick.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Feb 13 @ 2:15 PM ET
Still waiting for the fact check on the Bob Mackenzie rumor
OzBolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Halifax, NS
Joined: 05.09.2013

Feb 13 @ 2:19 PM ET
Bolts in on Karlsson?

What the heck could we possibly give up for that?
-Johnson
-Foote
-Cirelli
-Koekoek
-2 1sts

I don't see us moving Sergchev or Point. Palat ... maybe? But not he AND Johnny.

Even then, you'll prob; have to buy out Callahan as well to ensure you can keep Kuch.

Yeah, I dunno man. I'm not seeing how you swing this, long term.
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Feb 13 @ 2:30 PM ET
Sabres just said Reinhart will not be traded. So put the Flyers rumor to bed.
- mikes1519


That's what they want you to think
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Feb 13 @ 2:32 PM ET
* Bob McKenzie is reporting the Bolts have interest as well in Ryan McDonagh.. looking into it, but Bob is NEVER wrong about these sort of things...What I have been told so far is that the Bolts have looked hard into a long term plan with Erik Karlsson...

By looking into it I assume you mean you will watch Insider Trading in TSN.
Muskwa
Location: Somewhere down the lazy river
Joined: 03.26.2013

Feb 13 @ 2:39 PM ET
I want a sandwich and won't trade my doritos.

Why? those are good trade chips

- DaveofYork

Well played
Popofjc
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Quebec City, QC
Joined: 02.16.2009

Feb 13 @ 2:39 PM ET
Says the habs fan....pac is avg at best dude wake up
- mattstake


Well I don't know, I've stated why with a bunch of facts, you just ... gave your opinion with no arguments. You are supposed to be unbiased then?

Since 2011, only Ovechkin and Stamkos scored more goals than Patch (and he had junk for a centre all that time). I guess you need to re-read the definition of what the word "average" means.

I just don't see much of any stats or aspects where Nash is better than Pacioretty right now. Maybe career Playoffs PPG? Even there it's mostly a wash, 0.50 vs 0.53.
BigDog912
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2017

Feb 13 @ 2:39 PM ET
Bolts in on Karlsson?

What the heck could we possibly give up for that?
-Johnson
-Foote
-Cirelli
-Koekoek
-2 1sts

I don't see us moving Sergchev or Point. Palat ... maybe? But not he AND Johnny.

Even then, you'll prob; have to buy out Callahan as well to ensure you can keep Kuch.
Yeah, I dunno man. I'm not seeing how you swing this, long term.

- OzBolts


Wow. Do u really think that will be worth it. You have a number one guy already. Don’t u think u would want to keep the group together with that money and keep young players to replace aging and/or free agents you can’t afford. He is not worth it.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Feb 13 @ 2:40 PM ET
I want a sandwich and won't trade my doritos.
- BlackhawkMike

Regular Doritos or lady-friendly Doritos?
BigDog912
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2017

Feb 13 @ 2:41 PM ET
I agree with a lot of what you said.

But it wasn't his knee. It was his ankle
and he is the first player to have the procedure done in the NHL, and he has artificial junk in there. He doesnt turn as quick, and skate as quick.

- classic321


My bad. Should of double checked that. But I feel like when he signs it will hurt worse then the price signing. Which is saying a lot.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Feb 13 @ 2:43 PM ET
To be honest. Let leafs sign Karlsson. He was the best defenseman in the world. He will turn 28 when contract begins. He will be signing a huge 8 year contract for well north of 10 million. And with that knee injury he just doesn’t look like the same man. He lost the speed that made him so great. And while he was better then most gave him credit for defensively. You will be expecting a point per game for that much money and leaf fans will loose their mind. And his prime is over.
- BigDog912

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 13 @ 2:47 PM ET
* Bob McKenzie is reporting the Bolts have interest as well in Ryan McDonagh.. looking into it, but Bob is NEVER wrong about these sort of things...What I have been told so far is that the Bolts have looked hard into a long term plan with Erik Karlsson...

By looking into it I assume you mean you will watch Insider Trading in TSN.

- Matthews_Auston

Thanks Buston!!!!

glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Feb 13 @ 2:53 PM ET
Thanks Buston!!!!


- LordHumungous




Bustathan Drouin
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 13 @ 3:00 PM ET
Well I don't know, I've stated why with a bunch of facts, you just ... gave your opinion with no arguments. You are supposed to be unbiased then?

Since 2011, only Ovechkin and Stamkos scored more goals than Patch (and he had junk for a centre all that time). I guess you need to re-read the definition of what the word "average" means.

I just don't see much of any stats or aspects where Nash is better than Pacioretty right now. Maybe career Playoffs PPG? Even there it's mostly a wash, 0.50 vs 0.53.

- Popofjc


People don't like him because he's a hab...we went through this exact same thing with Kessel. You're wasting your time trying to reason it out
Tinkleman11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PA
Joined: 01.20.2015

Feb 13 @ 3:07 PM ET
Pass...

AMac, Manning or Gudas for Beniot straight up?

- dragonoffrost

I doubt Buffalo wants any of those three. Manning has been a tire fire the last two weeks. That's why I added a third rounder. If it takes a second rounder to get one of the others so be it.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Feb 13 @ 3:10 PM ET
Eklund: Kings Want Nash, but wont trade.. Flyers/Sabres ...McDonagh, Green, more
- Eklund

How have you gotten even worse at this after so long?
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Feb 13 @ 3:10 PM ET
* Bob McKenzie is reporting the Bolts have interest as well in Ryan McDonagh.. looking into it, but Bob is NEVER wrong about these sort of things...What I have been told so far is that the Bolts have looked hard into a long term plan with Erik Karlsson...

By looking into it I assume you mean you will watch Insider Trading in TSN.

- Matthews_Auston



ek is openly admitting to using wire taping
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Feb 13 @ 3:11 PM ET
How have you gotten even worse at this after so long?
- Cape Breton Bruins

Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Feb 13 @ 3:13 PM ET

- kicksave856

Ek is like the Benjamin Button of fake trade rumours.
leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 05.11.2014

Feb 13 @ 3:17 PM ET
Vegas in on Green because they need experienced d-men? Isn't their AHL team loaded with mediocre, experienced d-men they couldn't trade after the expansion draft already?
tkecanuck341
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Irvine, CA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Feb 13 @ 3:27 PM ET
If you were ever going to trade Vilardi, you would be better with Pacioretty anyway. Younger player, better goals/season average for the last couple years, better cap hit, signed for another year ...
- Popofjc


Not gonna happen. I read that awful Habs SB Nation blog yesterday. Blogger wanted Vilardi AND a 1st round pick AND Amadio for Pacioretty and for Montreal taking on Gaborik's contract. The comments section was even worse, saying that Vilardi, Amadio, and a 1st wasn't enough for Patches straight up, and if the Kings wanted Montreal to take on Gaborik's contract, they'd have to throw in Kyle Clague as well.

Vilardi, Amadio, and a 1st round pick for Pacioretty would be equivalent to trading Anze Kopitar, Wayne Simmonds, and a 1st round pick for one year of Olli Jokinen and some cap relief back in 2008. In other words, tremendously stupid.

If the Kings were to do this, at best, they'd get a early 30-something player past his prime signed to an overpriced long-term contract. In other words, another Gaborik. At worst, they gave up their best prospect since Drew Doughty, another 1st round pick (which could very well be a lottery pick again), and a roster player and will have nothing to show for it next summer except just under $5M in extra cap space.

No thanks.

If the Kings do trade Vilardi, it will be for a blue-chip player in his early to mid 20s that is NHL ready, but has several years of RFA eligibility remaining, or a long term but reasonable contract. Someone like Max Domi comes to mind.
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