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Coleman
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Summerside, PEI
Joined: 02.14.2007

Feb 13 @ 10:33 AM ET
Weise is being shown now, if the Flyers keep winning it should help trade Weise at the deadline.
- wcorvette

Man, I wish that were realistic.
Crushers68
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Joined: 02.17.2009

Feb 13 @ 10:33 AM ET
I was impressed that the Flyers managed to gut out a win on Sunday night in what looked (to me) to be a sure schedule loss. In theory, tonight could be another tough grind as this is game 4 in like... 6 nights? Hopefully the Flyers have enough left in the tank to win one more.
- Doc_Sarcasm


Don’t worry our backups aren’t capable of stopping more than 88% of shots. Flyers 5-2
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 13 @ 10:34 AM ET
Yes it is.


https://www.capfriendly.c...out_calculator/dale-weise

- MBFlyerfan

Weise could be a smarter buyout because it costs so little, and his hit is already on the books for 19-20, the year the Flyers will likely see the biggest cap crunch (Simmonds, Provy, Konecny, Sanheim, Goalies all FA)
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Feb 13 @ 10:34 AM ET
This. And they need to keep an eye on Hall. He's a sneaky little bastich.
- Scoob



That trade, man. Chia deserves to be fired for that trade.

Hall is an awesome player.

Stupid Devils.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 13 @ 10:37 AM ET
The team in general looked somewhat slow on Sunday but that line was crazy slow, expecially Lehtera and Filppula. Yikes.
- Scoob


If only there was a forward on the roster whose speed was Taylor made for the 4th line.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 13 @ 10:42 AM ET
If only there was a forward on the roster whose speed was Taylor made for the 4th line.
- Feanor




corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Feb 13 @ 10:42 AM ET
a buyout for Weise is pretty reasonable
- YuenglingJagr


why buy him out? If he is sent to the minors the team will only carry 1.325M for 2 years. His replacement will probably be on an entry level contract. The only thing he will really be occupying is a contract slot.

Really no need to carry a cap hit for 4 seasons for him
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 13 @ 10:43 AM ET
Florida Panthers are pretty hot right now
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 13 @ 10:49 AM ET
Florida Panthers are pretty hot right now
- YuenglingJagr


There is a hotter team since December 4...
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 13 @ 10:53 AM ET
There is a hotter team since December 4...
- dragonoffrost


Team Hansel is so hot right now.
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Feb 13 @ 10:54 AM ET
why buy him out? If he is sent to the minors the team will only carry 1.325M for 2 years. His replacement will probably be on an entry level contract. The only thing he will really be occupying is a contract slot.

Really no need to carry a cap hit for 4 seasons for him

- corduroy


I agree with this point of view.

Bury him in the AHL.

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 13 @ 10:56 AM ET
why buy him out? If he is sent to the minors the team will only carry 1.325M for 2 years. His replacement will probably be on an entry level contract. The only thing he will really be occupying is a contract slot.

Really no need to carry a cap hit for 4 seasons for him

- corduroy


agreed...just bury him
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 13 @ 10:56 AM ET
why buy him out? If he is sent to the minors the team will only carry 1.325M for 2 years. His replacement will probably be on an entry level contract. The only thing he will really be occupying is a contract slot.

Really no need to carry a cap hit for 4 seasons for him

- corduroy

the good thing is that they don't have to. However there are reasons to do so

He takes up a contract spot whether he is in the NHL or AHL (not a huge issue) but both teams are becoming very deep. Yeah he could be a veteran presence for the Phantoms, but I think that would be up to him and the team if they wanted to do that. Certainly a possibility.

The bigger reason is just money. It saves the team money to buy him out and the way the contract is structured, it only costs 12k more to buy him out in the 19-20 season than it does to have him buried. So essentially the same cap hit and he isn't around anymore, plus the other years his buyout cap hit is much less ($683,333) . So yeah I am not keeping him around longer than he needs to for $683k
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 13 @ 10:58 AM ET
There is a hotter team since December 4...
- dragonoffrost

Boston?
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 13 @ 11:04 AM ET
Man, I wish that were realistic.
- Coleman


retain 500K, or have him be a throw in on another trade
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Feb 13 @ 11:09 AM ET
the good thing is that they don't have to. However there are reasons to do so

He takes up a contract spot whether he is in the NHL or AHL (not a huge issue) but both teams are becoming very deep. Yeah he could be a veteran presence for the Phantoms, but I think that would be up to him and the team if they wanted to do that. Certainly a possibility.

The bigger reason is just money. It saves the team money to buy him out and the way the contract is structured, it only costs 12k more to buy him out in the 19-20 season than it does to have him buried. So essentially the same cap hit and he isn't around anymore, plus the other years his buyout cap hit is much less ($683,333) . So yeah I am not keeping him around longer than he needs to for $683k

- YuenglingJagr


I don't think dollars and cents really matter to the Flyers. Why carry any cap hit for 4 years when you can end it all in 2? The only pain is a contract slot, which isn't a huge issue

Bus rides will be good for 22's soul
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 13 @ 11:19 AM ET
Raffl is the Flyers best 5 on 5 goal scorer since he joined the team.

http://sonsofpenn.com/mic...ne-wingers-in-the-league/

Here are the five Flyers with the highest 5v5 scoring rates since the start of the 2013-14 season

Player G/60
Michael Raffl 0.77
Sean Couturier 0.72
Wayne Simmonds 0.65
Travis Konecny 0.63
Claude Giroux 0.62

Some may simply rebuke that statistic by saying that the Flyers have not exactly set the world alight at 5v5 over the last few seasons. That would be correct. However, when you look at Raffl’s rate of scoring when compared to the NHL as a whole it is still excellent. His 0.77 G/60 since the start of his NHL career is 90th amongst the 422 forwards who have seen 1500+ minutes of ice time.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 13 @ 11:21 AM ET
Boston?
- YuenglingJagr

YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 13 @ 11:21 AM ET
I don't think dollars and cents really matter to the Flyers. Why carry any cap hit for 4 years when you can end it all in 2? The only pain is a contract slot, which isn't a huge issue

Bus rides will be good for 22's soul

- corduroy

haha I just answered that
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 13 @ 11:22 AM ET
Did Bill say on here or on twitter that he thinks the Flyers will buy out Lehtera this summer? I hope that's correct, but they way they have used him in 2018 is incredibly odd if they are planning a buyout.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 13 @ 11:23 AM ET
The silence on Elliot is interesting/concerning.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 13 @ 11:25 AM ET
The silence on Elliot is interesting/concerning.
- Scoob


Funeral arrangements are incoming.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Feb 13 @ 11:25 AM ET
The silence on Elliot is interesting/concerning.
- Scoob



we're literally minutes away from the conclusion of the blockbuster trade that will bring us Henrik Lundqvist and the first of four consecutive Cups.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 13 @ 11:26 AM ET
Did Bill say on here or on twitter that he thinks the Flyers will buy out Lehtera this summer? I hope that's correct, but they way they have used him in 2018 is incredibly odd if they are planning a buyout.
- Feanor


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH the new CV... It's lovely!
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 13 @ 11:27 AM ET

- dragonoffrost

The graphic you saw was for Metro teams...even if we pretend the 10 game losing streak doesn't exist, Boston has the most points in the NHL since December 4th
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