To be fair he is 9th in hits in the NHL. So on that note should he not be paid as a high scoring checker? Say a better Cal Clutterbuck? For comparisons sake... Clutterbuck makes 3.5 a season so should we not thìnk Lucic would be more fairly compensated in the 4-4.5 range? At that rate I wouldn't have much of a complaint about him. At 6... just obserd.
- wreckage

Hits aren't the only thing that players need to do to impose their physical advantage. I'm talking destroy a guy who targets your superstar, drive the net hard, pressure the puck on the forecheck, etc.

Look at how Toronto's results without Matthews. Just imagine how we would look without Mcdavid for any long stretch.
- wreckage

We’d be worse than Buffalo.

McDavid to Minnesota for Parise

Draisaitl to Boston for Backes


- laughs2907

Chiarelli trading with anyone scares the poop out of me.
- Iggysbff

What if he was trading with Dorion?

Drion suggest Karlsson for Sekera and a Maroon

Chiarelli counters with Draisaitl for Phaneuf and White.

Hits aren't the only thing that players need to do to impose their physical advantage. I'm talking destroy a guy who targets your superstar, drive the net hard, pressure the puck on the forecheck, etc.
- MaximumBone

Obviously hits aren't the only thing that makes a player tough. But just trying to point out how to possibly fairly judge what Lucic should be compensated.

I just wish he'd actually PLAY like a big, mean mother(frank)er. What's the point of having all the big bodies if they don't even use their advantage? That Kesler hit on McDavid should've seen some manner of response from one of Lucic, Kassian, Nurse or Maroon, but instead, there was absolutely nothing.
- MaximumBone

I still can't get over how cock-eyed Lucic is. Odds are, he wouldn't hit the broadside of a barn from 2 feet away.

- Aetherial

That look on his face says it all

Look at Toronto's results without Matthews. Just imagine how we would look without Mcdavid for any long stretch.
- wreckage

Oh, the horror!

This whole team has flatlined honestly. Almost as if their spirits have left their bodies, except for McDavid of course. Someone mentioned calling this team McDavid and Co. Truthfully, that is the most accurate statement of this team so far into this season.
- EdmHockeyMan

RNH for Skinner and Foegele

Caggiula+ for Pageau

Sekera for Girgensons+

Maroon for Joseph+

Lucic- McDavid- Puljujarvi
Foegele- Draisaitl- Skinner
Joseph- Strome- Pageau
Khaira- Girgs- Kassian
UFA, UFA

Yamamoto and Benson

Klefbom- Larsson
Nurse- Russell
Auvitu- Benning
Davidson

Jones, Bear, Mantha and Samorukov

Draft RD Noah Dobson and C Cameron Hillis. Not an ideal D corps but I trust that the young foundation would grow well.

Hits aren't the only thing that players need to do to impose their physical advantage. I'm talking destroy a guy who targets your superstar, drive the net hard, pressure the puck on the forecheck, etc.
- MaximumBone

Hard to statistically judge toughness and physicality though. Hits are as close as you can get honestly. Perhaps a combo of hits, penalties drawn, penalty minutes? Don't really know how you can analytically gauge that.

RNH for Skinner and Foegele

Caggiula+ for Pageau

Sekera for Girgensons+

Maroon for Joseph+

Lucic- McDavid- Puljujarvi
Foegele- Draisaitl- Skinner
Joseph- Strome- Pageau
Khaira- Girgs- Kassian
UFA, UFA

Yamamoto and Benson

Klefbom- Larsson
Nurse- Russell
Auvitu- Benning
Davidson

Jones, Bear, Mantha and Samorukov

Draft RD Noah Dobson and C Cameron Hillis. Not an ideal D corps but I trust that the young foundation would grow well.
- MaximumBone

Why are we trading Sekera

Hard to statistically judge toughness and physicality though. Hits are as close as you can get honestly. Perhaps a combo of hits, penalties drawn, penalty minutes? Don't really know how you can analytically gauge that.
- EdmHockeyMan

In this case, I'm not talking about statistically quantifying it. This is maybe the only area where I agree with the "eye test" nutters. Quantifying "give-a-(frank) level" isn't something I think you can do.

Why are we trading Sekera
- LittleRicky

Cap. Literally just cap space in this case.

RNH for Skinner and Foegele

Caggiula+ for Pageau

Sekera for Girgensons+

Maroon for Joseph+

Lucic- McDavid- Puljujarvi
Foegele- Draisaitl- Skinner
Joseph- Strome- Pageau
Khaira- Girgs- Kassian
UFA, UFA

Yamamoto and Benson

Klefbom- Larsson
Nurse- Russell
Auvitu- Benning
Davidson

Jones, Bear, Mantha and Samorukov

Draft RD Noah Dobson and C Cameron Hillis. Not an ideal D corps but I trust that the young foundation would grow well.
- MaximumBone

Maybe Russel will agree to take Ference's position.

Cap. Literally just cap space in this case.
- MaximumBone

Useless move... if you want to free cap space you move Russell

RNH for Skinner and Foegele

Caggiula+ for Pageau

Sekera for Girgensons+

Maroon for Joseph+

Lucic- McDavid- Puljujarvi
Foegele- Draisaitl- Skinner
Joseph- Strome- Pageau
Khaira- Girgs- Kassian
UFA, UFA

Yamamoto and Benson

Klefbom- Larsson
Nurse- Russell
Auvitu- Benning
Davidson

Jones, Bear, Mantha and Samorukov

Draft RD Noah Dobson and C Cameron Hillis. Not an ideal D corps but I trust that the young foundation would grow well.
- MaximumBone

Not bad, but I would try to do Russell for Girgs straight up honestly. You'll be looking at a more stable defensive corps (assuming Sekera just needs to get back to speed after dealing with a major injury), and you'll get rid of a lingering contract. If that isn't possible (don't know the full details to his NMC), I definitely don't want to trade Sekera just like that. Maybe package him to get a bigger fish?

Useless move... if you want to free cap space you move Russell
- LittleRicky

Except there's literally no way Russell would waive his NMC. His entire reason for signing here initially was that he was desperate to get to keep living in Alberta. At least with Sekera, there's a chance he wants to go somewhere else to try to win. Considering he started his career in Buffalo, he might be agreeable to going back and being a part of the solution.

Not bad, but I would try to do Russell for Girgs straight up honestly. You'll be looking at a more stable defensive corps (assuming Sekera just needs to get back to speed after dealing with a major injury), and you'll get rid of a lingering contract. If that isn't possible (don't know the full details to his NMC), I definitely don't want to trade Sekera just like that. Maybe package him to get a bigger fish?
- EdmHockeyMan

When you need cap space, you don't often get strong returns. It's better to just get a couple middling pieces and see what a new coach can do with a faster, deeper and more skilled forward corps and a similar D corps.

Except there's literally no way Russell would waive his NMC. His entire reason for signing here initially was that he was desperate to get to keep living in Alberta. At least with Sekera, there's a chance he wants to go somewhere else to try to win. Considering he started his career in Buffalo, he might be agreeable to going back and being a part of the solution.
- MaximumBone

Sekera has a full no movement clause thru 2018 and no trade thru 2020. Russel has no protection thru 2018, 10 team no trade in 19, and 15 team no trade in 2020. If we can find a taker this summer he has no say.

Sekera has a full no movement clause thru 2018 and no trade thru 2020. Russel has no protection thru 2018, 10 team no trade in 19, and 15 team no trade in 2020. If we can find a taker this summer he has no say.
- wreckage

See if Phoenix would take him on

Sekera has a full no movement clause thru 2018 and no trade thru 2020. Russel has no protection thru 2018, 10 team no trade in 19, and 15 team no trade in 2020. If we can find a taker this summer he has no say.
- wreckage

I believe he still has control.

NMC=No movement clause

The player can't be traded or sent to the minors without the player's permission. Effectively as Marb said, the only way out for a GM with a player with an NMC is to buyout that player. In the buyout case only, the player is place on waivers without permission.

NTC=Not trade clause

The player can't be traded without the player's permission. The player can be placed on waivers and sent to the minors without permission. If placed on waivers, the player can be claimed by another team and would have no say in his destination.

Some clauses have exceptions where they don't apply to certain teams or where they don't apply if the player's team doesn't make the playoffs. You have to check the clauses individually to find out if a specific player has an exception to his NMC or NTC clause.

At least to my understanding.

Sekera has a full no movement clause thru 2018 and no trade thru 2020. Russel has no protection thru 2018, 10 team no trade in 19, and 15 team no trade in 2020. If we can find a taker this summer he has no say.
- wreckage

Sorry dude but this is incorrect. Russell has full NMC for this year and next. It becomes modified after that.

Sorry dude but this is incorrect. Russell has full NMC for this year and next. It becomes modified after that.
- Iggysbff

At which point we might as well buy him out considering how small the hit becomes.

Sekera has a NMC until 2019, when it changes to a Modified NTC for the remainder of the contract (2020-21 being the last season).

Draisaitl, Lucic, and Russell for Larkin, Mantha, and AA signed 8 years at 2 million combined.