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Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 11 @ 9:15 AM ET
So much for not criticizing the poster. Have a nice day. And , FWIW, I think you are dead wrong. Giving your team a better chance to make the playoffs and perhaps win a round or even 2 with a little luck is easily worth parting with a 2nd round pick when you are holding 2 firsts, at least one pick in every other round, and are as deep with prospects as the Flyers are right now.
- BiggE



Looking at the types of goalies that got traded for a 2nd rounder guys like Martin Jones I wouldn't be trading a 2nd for an older guy. Third rounder for a guy like lehner I'm all in. But if it's a 2nd I want it to be a young guy we could pair with hart in the future
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Feb 11 @ 9:21 AM ET
Looking at the types of goalies that got traded for a 2nd rounder guys like Martin Jones I wouldn't be trading a 2nd for an older guy. Third rounder for a guy like lehner I'm all in. But if it's a 2nd I want it to be a young guy we could pair with hart in the future
- Tfaehner

Lehner have a ton of upside compared to most of or all of the flyers goalies since Hex jumped off.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 11 @ 9:21 AM ET
Elliott has played in over 50 games once in his career and that was back in 09. He s at 41 games right now. They need a goalie to play a half a season with him, right now who in the organization is going to do that? The core is playing great they deserve better then an AHL goalie one more Neuvy injury from being the guy.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 11 @ 9:22 AM ET
Looking at the types of goalies that got traded for a 2nd rounder guys like Martin Jones I wouldn't be trading a 2nd for an older guy. Third rounder for a guy like lehner I'm all in. But if it's a 2nd I want it to be a young guy we could pair with hart in the future
- Tfaehner

Lehner costs more than a 3rd for sure. A 3rd gets you a team's good backup who is stuck behind a workhorse. And that's fine, but prices are probably astronomical for anyone getting the lion's share of starts no matter how bad the goalie or team is
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 11 @ 9:23 AM ET

- Giroux_Is_God

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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 11 @ 9:23 AM ET
Looking at the types of goalies that got traded for a 2nd rounder guys like Martin Jones I wouldn't be trading a 2nd for an older guy. Third rounder for a guy like lehner I'm all in. But if it's a 2nd I want it to be a young guy we could pair with hart in the future
- Tfaehner

Agreed in principle, but Lehner is a young guy who I’d happily swap a 2nd for.

Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 11 @ 9:23 AM ET
Lehner have a ton of upside compared to most of or all of the flyers goalies since Hex jumped off.
- Landsbergfan



Having more upside than neuvirth or Lyons doesn't mean in giving up a 2nd for him. They could have a 3rd and a low end prospect like bardreau that would be my best offer.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Feb 11 @ 9:25 AM ET
Having more upside than neuvirth or Lyons doesn't mean in giving up a 2nd for him. They could have a 3rd and a low end prospect like bardreau that would be my best offer.
- Tfaehner

HEX have a ton of prospects to give away on a rainy day
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 11 @ 9:25 AM ET
Having more upside than neuvirth or Lyons doesn't mean in giving up a 2nd for him. They could have a 3rd and a low end prospect like bardreau that would be my best offer.
- Tfaehner

Reasonable but again I doubt that intrigues buffalo even a little
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 11 @ 9:29 AM ET
Reasonable but again I doubt that intrigues buffalo even a little
- Giroux_Is_God


Lehner is an RFA after this season, I wonder how much leverage Buffalo would have in negotiations. I would think with all the problems in Buffalo if they could solidfy goalie they would do it. I kind of think Lehner might be in the category we have an asset, but we really don't want long term. I could be wrong.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 11 @ 9:36 AM ET
Lehner is an RFA after this season, I wonder how much leverage Buffalo would have in negotiations. I would think with all the problems in Buffalo if they could solidfy goalie they would do it. I kind of think Lehner might be in the category we have an asset, but we really don't want long term. I could be wrong.
- ravishingone

I highly doubt anyone is giving Buffalo a 1st for him, so, unless they are going to re-sign him, a 2nd is probably the best they are going to get.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 11 @ 9:40 AM ET
Sure anyone can have a different opinion doesn't mean it's well thought out.
- MJL


What a jackassy thing to say.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 11 @ 9:42 AM ET
What a jackassy thing to say.
- jmatchett383

You wonder why a good portion of the regulars here have stopped responding to him.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 11 @ 9:43 AM ET
I highly doubt anyone is giving Buffalo a 1st for him, so, unless they are going to re-sign him, a 2nd is probably the best they are going to get.
- BiggE


As a comparison, Homer traded Buffalo a 2nd for Biron. I agree no one is giving them a 1st for Lehner. They probably have little confidence Neuvy is going to stay healthy enough or play goo enough to string together 10 straight games. Hexy needs to do something.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 11 @ 9:44 AM ET
You wonder why a good portion of the regulars here have stopped responding to him.
- hereticpride


It seems that every time I give him a break, he goes and does something like this and it just makes me disregard any good points he may make.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 11 @ 9:46 AM ET
It seems that every time I give him a break, he goes and does something like this and it just makes me disregard any good points he may make.
- jmatchett383

MJL is litrilly Gudas
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Feb 11 @ 9:47 AM ET
You wonder why a good portion of the regulars still respond to him here after calling Randy Jones and Ryan Parent high end NHL D men
- hereticpride



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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 11 @ 9:56 AM ET
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- Landsbergfan

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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 11 @ 9:57 AM ET
Re: Jimmy Howard

He has a year left in his deal so I don't see that happening as Elliott and Neuvy both have a year remaining on their deals also.

Expiring UFA Goalies (some of these teams are playoff bound mind you so a few of these names probably aren't available)

Hutchinson
Mrazek
Pavelec
Halak
Niemi
Sateri
Bernier
Ward
Lehner
Chad Johnson
Raanta

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 11 @ 10:01 AM ET
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- Landsbergfan

fair enough.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Feb 11 @ 10:02 AM ET
Lehner have a .913 save prc on a trainwreck team
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 11 @ 10:05 AM ET
Lehner. God no. The guy is Cechmanek crazy. Who knows what he would do behind a team that plays defense, but he is in no way someone I would trade assets for.

There are a couple guys I would trade for but I wouldn't give up much at all. Halak is still someone I really like. Craig Andersons contract is a real shame because he would've been a great target
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 11 @ 10:05 AM ET
Re: Jimmy Howard

He has a year left in his deal so I don't see that happening as Elliott and Neuvy both have a year remaining on their deals also.

Expiring UFA Goalies (some of these teams are playoff bound mind you so a few of these names probably aren't available)

Hutchinson
Mrazek
Pavelec
Halak
Niemi
Sateri
Bernier
Ward
Lehner
Chad Johnson
Raanta

- hereticpride


Detroit needs to rebuild and they are in cap hell. They can’t afford to re-sign Mrazek so he may be more available than many think.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 11 @ 10:08 AM ET
Detroit needs to rebuild and they are in cap hell. They can’t afford to re-sign Mrazek so he may be more available than many think.
- BiggE

They also exposed him to the expansion draft so I don't think he's in their long term plans as much as others do.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 11 @ 10:10 AM ET
They also exposed him to the expansion draft so I don't think he's in their long term plans as much as others do.
- hereticpride

Exactly. I think a 3rd and a guy like Stolarz would probably land him.
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