It was Bylsma bruh.
- sbroads24

Whether or not it was his fault is beside the point because the players will always win in a stare-down with a coach unless that coach is a lead pipe lock first ballot hall of famer.

Whether the players were right is another thing.

The idea since 2012 is to build a contender. Not to freak out over trading an average #2 Center
- sbroads24

Agree completely. Looking 2 years out, I don't like RoR's odds of being an average #2.

Doesn't have to be Casey next year. I expect him to be broken in in a similar fashion to Sam. There's other options. I don't care if it's Zegmus/ERod for a year.

Sabres wearing Winter Classic jerseys today so there’s that...
- Hatboro_Swords

0-2

But we just need to climb the standings next year!
Thats the goal!
Dont you get it!
Yelling!
- TheHank

I don’t know man, when I watch the games, all I see is a decent average, every day #2 Center in O’Reilly who’s played like he’s Bergeron, and makes more than 98% of the league.

But nothings his fault.

But we just need to climb the standings next year!
Thats the goal!
Dont you get it!
Yelling!
- TheHank

You’re so lame

Agree completely. Looking 2 years out, I don't like RoR's odds of being an average #2.

Doesn't have to be Casey next year. I expect him to be broken in in a similar fashion to Sam. There's other options. I don't care if it's Zegmus/ERod for a year.
- Lunaion

I just really hope his slowing down is because he's being lazy, because if he's losing what little speed he had because of his back or whatever it's going to get real ugly real fast.

If it's just him being lazy, that, theoretically, can be fixed.

Agree completely. Looking 2 years out, I don't like RoR's odds of being an average #2.

Doesn't have to be Casey next year. I expect him to be broken in in a similar fashion to Sam. There's other options. I don't care if it's Zegmus/ERod for a year.
- Lunaion

Yup. Agreed

Crappy

I didn’t say it worked out well...
did i?

Also...
not Kane & RORs faults
They’ve played well

GMTM Fd up the defense, Lehner has been inconsistent, and we have no depth scoring

That’s why we suck
Not bc of O’Reilly

He could score 40 goals this year & we still wouldn’t be good
ROR isn’t part of the problem
- jdfitz77

Ok here we go...
Did i say he was part of the problem?
Did i say if he scored 40 goals we would be good?
Did i say we have depth at scoring?
Did i say it was kane and rors fault?
Read more!

That is how you go about having an argument/discussion.
Your own medicine there, all of it.
Are we still going to do this dance?

You’re so lame
- jdfitz77

I am doing my best to put it into a context you will understand.
Now you get it.
Directed at you.

http://www.wgr550.com/med...podcast/howard-and-jeremy

listen to them rip the sabres in hour 2

Ok here we go...
Did i say he was part of the problem?
Did i say if he scored 40 goals we would be good?
Did i say we have depth at scoring?
Did i say it was kane and rors fault?
Read more!

That is how you go about having an argument/discussion.
Your own medicine there, all of it.
Are we still going to do this dance?
- TheHank

Blah blah blah

You’re comment pointed in that direction, yes

And u haven’t been trying to have a discussion with me
You’ve just bee trying to pick a fight like a tough guy

Keep flexin brah

I just really hope his slowing down is because he's being lazy, because if he's losing what little speed he had because of his back or whatever it's going to get real ugly real fast.

If it's just him being lazy, that, theoretically, can be fixed.
- Wetbandit1

That's my fear too.

I just really hope his slowing down is because he's being lazy, because if he's losing what little speed he had because of his back or whatever it's going to get real ugly real fast.

If it's just him being lazy, that, theoretically, can be fixed.
- Wetbandit1

He isnt going to get faster with age. Thats the thought. In a couple years when/if we are set up to be good again hes going to be slower and the return will be less. I dunno, its a fair discussion at this point imo.

Agree completely. Looking 2 years out, I don't like RoR's odds of being an average #2.

Doesn't have to be Casey next year. I expect him to be broken in in a similar fashion to Sam. There's other options. I don't care if it's Zegmus/ERod for a year.
- Lunaion

Only if we are trying to pick in the top5 again

I don’t think we need to tank again
Aren’t u sock of that yet?
I am

99 problems and the tank ain't one

He isnt going to get faster with age. Thats the thought. In a couple years when/if we are set up to be good again hes going to be slower and the return will be less. I dunno, its a fair discussion at this point imo.
- TheHank

He’s only 27 though
U guys are acting like he’s 35

Blah blah blah

You’re comment pointed in that direction, yes

And u haven’t been trying to have a discussion with me
You’ve just bee trying to pick a fight like a tough guy

Keep flexin brah
- jdfitz77

Because you are stubborn as all (frank). Anyone can play devils advocate and act like theyre right. Its exhausting. But im apparently drunk so you must be right. (frank)me

He’s only 27 though
U guys are acting like he’s 35
- jdfitz77

He is slow though.
U are acting like hes fitting into the way the league is going.

99 problems and the tank ain't one
- homiedclown

Because you are stubborn as all (frank). Anyone can play devils advocate and act like theyre right. Its exhausting. But im apparently drunk so you must be right. (frank)me
- TheHank

YOU’RE AGENDA (not mine) was to start posting stuff to come at me

That was YOU
NOT ME

Just bc we disagree,
doesn’t mean u need to act like a d!ck for no apparent reason

We were all just talking
You came swinging at me

That’s your bad dude, not mine


Absolutely zero reason u can’t have a decent discussion with me

But if you’re just gonna flex,
then yeah...
I’m gonna make smart a$$ed jokes about u being drunk

Bc it doesn’t make sense to just come in here & start firing away like a d!ck for no reason

Which is exactly what u did

He is slow though.
U are acting like hes fitting into the way the league is going.
- TheHank

I just don’t think u need to be McDavid in order to have a place in the league

Only if we are trying to pick in the top5 again

I don’t think we need to tank again
Aren’t u sock of that yet?
I am
- jdfitz77

Quintessential Fitz.
You put words into peoples mouths all the time. God forbid someone disagrees with you and you immediately point out that you didnt verbatim say things.
Exhausting.

Quintessential Fitz.
You put words into peoples mouths all the time. God forbid someone disagrees with you and you immediately point out that you didnt verbatim say things.
Exhausting.
- TheHank

U can just overlook my posts ya know

I mean, if it really bothers u that much...

And he said he’d be ok with Zemgus or E Rod at 2C for a year...
so yeah, I’d say that’s akin to “tanking” again

YOU’RE AGENDA (not mine) was to start posting stuff to come at me

That was YOU
NOT ME

Just bc we disagree,
doesn’t mean u need to act like a d!ck for no apparent reason

We were all just talking
You came swinging at me

That’s your bad dude, not mine


Absolutely zero reason u can’t have a decent discussion with me

But if you’re just gonna flex,
then yeah...
I’m gonna make smart a$$ed jokes about u being drunk

Bc it doesn’t make sense to just come in here & start firing away like a d!ck for no reason

Which is exactly what u did
- jdfitz77

*Your
You must be drunk again

He isnt going to get faster with age. Thats the thought. In a couple years when/if we are set up to be good again hes going to be slower and the return will be less. I dunno, its a fair discussion at this point imo.
- TheHank

No, but if he's slow because he's lazy then just putting in the effort will make him "faster".

I honestly don't know what to do with him. He makes a lot of money, but not prohibitively expensive at the moment, has a poopty structure to his contract with all but $1M in bonuses, it's got many years left, the only (slight)positive is that we'll already have paid him $28.5M in the first 3 years, leaving $24M over the final 4, so it should make it a little easier to move after say next year.

If they can get away with holding say $2M I might go for that, but that means no buying anyone else out because with his $2M and Hodgson's ~$792K that's ~$2.8M on the books in dead cap for a team we hope can be competitive in 2 years.

I think he's pretty much untradable at this point and I like the guy.