There's gonna be a lot of disappointed people on here when the deadline comes and goes and lou makes 1 AHL trade for "depth"
- Conquest

I think the opposite. People will be surprised with all the moves he makes.

Doubt any of them will be substantial but nothing gets out of Lou's office. We don't know poop in the end

Leivo to Edmonton for Letestu

Soshnikov and a 4th rd pick to Arizona for Demers

those moves should help..
- PatC80

You’ve got a deal.

Burrows is such a douchebag

plekanec
- Aetherial

No thank you.
- Wildschwein

Luckily for us, Chia is GM and not you.

Who knows what trade that crazy (frank)er will do next?!

Luckily for us, Chia is GM and not you.

Who knows what trade that crazy (frank)er will do next?!
- Thecakeisalie

Very true.

I am one of the very first members of tank nation here.

I can't agree with this sentiment though.

Too much unexpected stuff happens in the playoffs and I think if the Leafs got a bunch of breaks, a la Ottawa last year, they could actually contend.

I know the rebuild isn't done and I am not a JVR or Bozak fan but I think they are good enough, or can be good enough this year that you have to give them every chance.

Moore, Leivo Soshnikov could all go imho. The rest could all be useful pieces in the playoffs.
- Aetherial

Unexpected stuff happens in the sense that some teams get lucky and win a round or two more than they should but the reality is they don't win the grand prize. Ottawa got lucky to beat Montreal, they were higher than the Bruins and they lost to the Penguins. They still lost. Nashville still lost. Edmonton lost. Close only counts in horseshoes and nuclear weapons.

If this was the NFL playoffs, I'd be with all of you that "anything can happen" because in one game, you can get lucky. But four, seven game series to win it all? The Leafs don't have that kind of luck. They simply don't play the right style to get lucky.

You lose in 7 and lose all your UFAs or you lose in 6 and you recover assets.

There's gonna be a lot of disappointed people on here when the deadline comes and goes and lou makes 1 AHL trade for "depth"
- Conquest

I don't expect Lou to sell at all. I just think he should. In fact, he's probably going to be a small buyer like he was with Boyle last year. But the Leafs still stand little to no chance versus Boston and Tampa Bay, regardless of what he does.

I don't expect Lou to sell at all. I just think he should. In fact, he's probably going to be a small buyer like he was with Boyle last year. But the Leafs still stand little to no chance versus Boston and Tampa Bay, regardless of what he does.
- Unholy_Goalie

Thats not true man..

They had one mediocre game vs the Bruins, the sky isnt falling. I think they would beat BOS in a 7 game series. The Bruins arent going to maintain this pace. TB would be hard to be if they're healthy, cup favorites. Its going to be about who has momentum and who's healthy.

Thats not true man..

They had one mediocre game vs the Bruins, the sky isnt falling. I think they would beat BOS in a 7 game series. The Bruins arent going to maintain this pace. TB would be hard to be if they're healthy, cup favorites. Its going to be about who has momentum and who's healthy.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

You have little to no evidence to prove that.

And you just said it yourself; if the Leafs somehow, someway, get past the Bruins, their next opponent is likely Tampa Bay who would probably beat the Leafs too.

So is it worth it to lose all your UFAs for nothing to win 1 round? Nah, not yet it isn't.

You have little to no evidence to prove that.

And you just said it yourself; if the Leafs somehow, someway, get past the Bruins, their next opponent is likely Tampa Bay who would probably beat the Leafs too.

So is it worth it to lose all your UFAs for nothing to win 1 round? Nah, not yet it isn't.
- Unholy_Goalie

whats the proposal?

obviously if theres players who could fill in for a potentially traded UFA, think Levio taking over for JVR, then you want to maximize the return. The Leafs can't afford to keep all of them. So, stand pat and go with the current lineup, or roll the dice with some call ups and try to get picks for Bozak/JVR/Komarov etc..

whats the proposal?

obviously if theres players who could fill in for a potentially traded UFA, think Levio taking over for JVR, then you want to maximize the return. The Leafs can't afford to keep all of them. So, stand pat and go with the current lineup, or roll the dice with soe call ups and try to get picks for Bozak/JVR/Komarov etc..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Trade JVR, Bozak, Komarov, Moore and Polak. Replace them with Johnsson, Kapanen, Gauthier, Leivo and Dermott.

If you can find teams that want JVR and Bozak so they can resign them, maybe you can get more than picks for them. I suggested weeks ago they could try to trade JVR, Bozak and Polak to Calgary for Backlund, Bennett and Stone.

But even if you just get draft picks back and promote Marlies, that's good enough. The Leafs aren't losing their playoff spot, the young guys get a chance at the NHL and some playoff experience and you bring back a bunch of picks you can use to refill the Marlies. These guys are going to get called up anyway next year when all the UFAs walk anyway, might as well get a head start on the process and bring back assets instead of losing them for nothing hoping for a miracle.

You have little to no evidence to prove that.

And you just said it yourself; if the Leafs somehow, someway, get past the Bruins, their next opponent is likely Tampa Bay who would probably beat the Leafs too.

So is it worth it to lose all your UFAs for nothing to win 1 round? Nah, not yet it isn't.
- Unholy_Goalie

But you have evidence yo support your statement Uggy?

Or keep everybody and Boston wins in 6. Same result but you take home 5 more draft picks or prospects to replace all the promoted Marlies who are going to replace all those guys when they walk as free agents anyway. More experience for young guys, more ice time for young guys. That's development.
- Unholy_Goalie

(frank) off idiot.

Uggy on a rampage telling everyone they're wrong.
Rinse and repeat.

Trade JVR, Bozak, Komarov, Moore and Polak. Replace them with Johnsson, Kapanen, Gauthier, Leivo and Dermott.

If you can find teams that want JVR and Bozak so they can resign them, maybe you can get more than picks for them. I suggested weeks ago they could try to trade JVR, Bozak and Polak to Calgary for Backlund, Bennett and Stone.

But even if you just get draft picks back and promote Marlies, that's good enough. The Leafs aren't losing their playoff spot, the young guys get a chance at the NHL and some playoff experience and you bring back a bunch of picks you can use to refill the Marlies. These guys are going to get called up anyway next year when all the UFAs walk anyway, might as well get a head start on the process and bring back assets instead of losing them for nothing hoping for a miracle.
- Unholy_Goalie

You'd get told to (frank) right off!

But you have evidence yo support your statement Uggy?



(frank) off idiot.

Uggy on a rampage telling everyone they're wrong.
Rinse and repeat.
- .HOHO.

Except the fact that the Bruins are the 4th placed team in the NHL (with games in hand), have the best GAA, 2nd best differential, a core group of guys who have made the playoffs 8 out of 10 years, won 10 playoff rounds, been to two Cup Finals and actually won a Stanley Cup. Oh, and they actually play playoff hockey all year round. Wanna compare that to the Leafs who have almost zero experience by comparison, don't play a good playoff style and have no track record of success?

But that's not evidence at all, right?

Except the fact that the Bruins are the 4th placed team in the NHL (with games in hand), have the best GAA, 2nd best differential, a core group of guys who have made the playoffs 8 out of 10 years, won 10 playoff rounds, been to two Cup Finals and actually won a Stanley Cup. Oh, and they actually play playoff hockey all year round. Wanna compare that to the Leafs who have almost zero experience by comparison, don't play a good playoff style and have no track record of success?

But that's not evidence at all, right?
- Unholy_Goalie

You can make an assumption half way through the season on how trading players are going to affect the Leafs exactly, and be right. But when someone else does, they're wrong. Again, please (frank) right off!

Please tell us all how we're all wrong Uggy!

You can make an assumption half way through the season on how trading players are going to affect the Leafs exactly, and be right. But when someone else does, they're wrong. Again, please (frank) right off!

Please tell us all how we're all wrong Uggy!



- .HOHO.

Except the fact that the Bruins are the 4th placed team in the NHL (with games in hand), have the best GAA, 2nd best differential, a core group of guys who have made the playoffs 8 out of 10 years, won 10 playoff rounds, been to two Cup Finals and actually won a Stanley Cup. Oh, and they actually play playoff hockey all year round. Wanna compare that to the Leafs who have almost zero experience by comparison, don't play a good playoff style and have no track record of success?

But that's not evidence at all, right?
- Unholy_Goalie

So I can't use JVR's stats from last season but you can use Boston stats 7 years ago....

And no, just no. The Bruins team of today is barely a fraction of what it was when they won the cup.

They have 5....5 (frank)ing players from when they won.

Don't compare a team that won the cup to a team that has 5 players from the team.

The Bruins have the same amount of wins in the playoffs in the last 3 years as the Leafs. This is getting ridiculous with you using stats that are bullpoop.

leivo traded yet?
- Tumbleweed

Blockbuster:

Chicago
Levio
Brown
Leafs 1st 2018

Toronto
Seabrook
4th 2020

Blockbuster:

Chicago
Levio
Brown
Leafs 1st 2018

Toronto
Seabrook
4th 2020
- DrEnvironmentalist

You can show yourself out!

Should be more worried about the Bolts in the the first round to be honest

So I can't use JVR's stats from last season but you can use Boston stats 7 years ago....

And no, just no. The Bruins team of today is barely a fraction of what it was when they won the cup.

They have 5....5 (frank)ing players from when they won.

Don't compare a team that won the cup to a team that has 5 players from the team.

The Bruins have the same amount of wins in the playoffs in the last 3 years as the Leafs. This is getting ridiculous with you using stats that are bullpoop.
- Santo_44

Those 5 players aren't 4th liners, they're core players and they're huge difference makers. Not to mention the team is playing like a well oiled machine, playing like a real team and playing a playoff style that the Leafs do not play. Keep ignoring the facts though to fuel your fantasy of "anything can happen."

Should be more worried about the Bolts in the the first round to be honest
- Mahoney87

Either way, the Leafs would be in big trouble.

I'm all in for trading JVR, there are plenty of replacements in the pipeline.

Either way, the Leafs would be in big trouble.
- Unholy_Goalie

Strongly agree