Gary owes them for the China thing, Canucks and Kings will both pick to play 3.
- 1970vintage

He owes them hosting the draft not rigging it

Yeah, I agree that the malicious poop is way worse than being a clown.

But the knees to the back of a head on a guy who’s laying on the ice is (frank)ing stupid. He crossed the line from clown to (frank)ing idiot yesterday.
- Nucker101

Yes, he was an idiot, but still pales in comparison to the likes of Pronger, Cooke, Downie, Samuelsson, Hunter, hell even Gordie.

Borrows is a pure amateur when it comes to the game of dirty hockey.

So he loses it when he snaps. Don't piss him off is the moral of the story
- VANTEL

Not condoning it, but we need a junkyard dog who can play.

Every team in the league know's we're a bunch of pussies with no grit.

There's the measuring stick gents, same same.

Satiar Shah
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The Canucks have 48 points in 53 games this season.

Through 53 games last year they had 52 points and two seasons ago they had 54.
- VanHockeyGuy

A revolving door of coaches and GM's is not going to help.
The Edmonton model.

This . WTF good are mentors is you still finish bottom 3
- VANTEL

Serious, the lack of effort really pissed me off, and as much as I think Stecher should have had a year in the AHL, he was head and shoulders the best on the ice last night.

What were your thoughts?
- Makita

Game was boring as sh1t.

There's the measuring stick gents, same same.

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The Canucks have 48 points in 53 games this season.

Through 53 games last year they had 52 points and two seasons ago they had 54.
- VanHockeyGuy

Yet some people are acting like this team is way better. The only real difference is Boeser. If it weren’t for him this season would be ridiculously depressing.

The supporting cast for Brock/Bo still sucks. Benning has yet to bring in a good reliable dman and it’s year 4.

Coaches know when cameras are rolling.

Mike Yeo knew when he spazzed.
Glen Gulutzan knew when he spazzed.
Guy Boucher knew when he spazzed.
Coaches know exactly who is in the stands when practices are running, as most as not open to the public.
Green puts on a tough front, and portrays as a coach who holds everyone accountable, but until MDZ/Gudbranson/Ericsson/Granlund get healthy scratched when they play like poop, I won't buy it.
- Codes1087

I think Green is really impressed with himself.

There's the measuring stick gents, same same.

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The Canucks have 48 points in 53 games this season.

Through 53 games last year they had 52 points and two seasons ago they had 54.
- VanHockeyGuy

Turning chicken shit into chicken salad through the draft.

Game was boring as sh1t.
- VANTEL

I don't buy that. He can humiliate Nilsson on camera. He can call out the Sedins before the season even starts and say they were not good enough last year, but he can't bench a veteran who is not living up to their contract, playing the way he wants, or showing interest in the game. I don't buy it man. Rookie or not, holding veterans and rookies to a different standard is a slippery slope to failure.
- Codes1087

I think the decision to be harder on rookies is not a hockey decision but a development decision. A veteran's confidence and reactions are not nearly as volatile as a rookie, who experiences extreme highs and lows during a season. Can you imagine the false confidence some of the kids would have, despite them all actually playing poorly?

It reminds me of that joke/story where 2 guys are running from a bear and the one says they cant outrun it, and the other says he doesnt have to outrun the bear, only him. I think Green doesnt want to set the standard for the kids that they only have to outplay the guy next to them, aim for their own goals and be better. While I do think they need to toss the kids a bone every once in a while, I respect them for doing what they feel is best for the development longterm

Coaches know when cameras are rolling.

Mike Yeo knew when he spazzed.
Glen Gulutzan knew when he spazzed.
Guy Boucher knew when he spazzed.
Coaches know exactly who is in the stands when practices are running, as most as not open to the public.
Green puts on a tough front, and portrays as a coach who holds everyone accountable, but until MDZ/Gudbranson/Ericsson/Granlund get healthy scratched when they play like poop, I won't buy it.
- Codes1087

Fair enough.

This . WTF good are mentors is you still finish bottom 3
- VANTEL

I wonder how old do you have to be too be a mentor and how many nhl seasons do you need? Also, how many mentors?
We have Sutter Erickson Edler Tanev Vanek Gagner MDZ Biega Sedin and Sedin. That is 10 of 23 man roster filling out mentorship roles. At this rate we should be cup champs next season.lol
Time to find aome younger faster free agents and havè a top line of Bo Brock and whoever and some hardworking faster 3rd and 4th liners. It beats what they jave been doing for the last 5 seasons or so.

I think Green is really impressed with himself.
- Marwood

I like it when the hate is directed away from the players and focused on management and ownership. They deserve it so much more.

Is it LE's fault his skill set doesn't match his pay cheque?

I think the decision to be harder on rookies is not a hockey decision but a development decision. A veteran's confidence and reactions are not nearly as volatile as a rookie, who experiences extreme highs and lows during a season. Can you imagine the false confidence some of the kids would have, despite them all actually playing poorly?

It reminds me of that joke/story where 2 guys are running from a bear and the one says they cant outrun it, and the other says he doesnt have to outrun the bear, only him. I think Green doesnt want to set the standard for the kids that they only have to outplay the guy next to them, aim for their own goals and be better. While I do think they need to toss the kids a bone every once in a while, I respect them for doing what they feel is best for the development longterm
- WhiteLie

Honestly, I think he is harder on rookies, because, well, he is trying to set them up for long and successful careers, fair enough.
I think he is trying NOT to bench UFA signings (MDZ, Gagner/Ericsson) because it will deter future UFA's from wanting to play (mind you he did it with burmistrov). I also think it makes JB look bad if he benches or healthy scratched one of his acquisitions.

Great, Fack TOR.
- VanHockeyGuy

EG for Brown/2nd

Yet some people are acting like this team is way better. The only real difference is Boeser. If it weren’t for him this season would be ridiculously depressing.

The supporting cast for Brock/Bo still sucks.
- Nucker101

The team should be open for business on pretty well anyone. A couple of timely deals and a little bit of luck and we may see some slight improvement next year. Not holding my breath though.

I think the decision to be harder on rookies is not a hockey decision but a development decision. A veteran's confidence and reactions are not nearly as volatile as a rookie, who experiences extreme highs and lows during a season. Can you imagine the false confidence some of the kids would have, despite them all actually playing poorly?

It reminds me of that joke/story where 2 guys are running from a bear and the one says they cant outrun it, and the other says he doesnt have to outrun the bear, only him. I think Green doesnt want to set the standard for the kids that they only have to outplay the guy next to them, aim for their own goals and be better. While I do think they need to toss the kids a bone every once in a while, I respect them for doing what they feel is best for the development longterm
- WhiteLie

Oops, didn't know you were here.

Yet some people are acting like this team is way better. The only real difference is Boeser. If it weren’t for him this season would be ridiculously depressing.

The supporting cast for Brock/Bo still sucks. Benning has yet to bring in a good reliable dman and it’s year 4.
- Nucker101

Though the guddy trade hasn't worked out, aside from drafting and developing the dman, he would need to trade futures for it. We haven't had a good enough prospect pool for that.
Guddy had a good last 2 seasons in Florida before he came over and sucked. The only dman I wish we took were mcavoy and Carlo. I am still fine with o.j. over serg until o.j. proves to be a bust.

I wonder how old do you have to be too be a mentor and how many nhl seasons do you need? Also, how many mentors?
We have Sutter Erickson Edler Tanev Vanek Gagner MDZ Biega Sedin and Sedin. That is 10 of 23 man roster filling out mentorship roles. At this rate we should be cup champs next season.lol
Time to find aome younger faster free agents and havè a top line of Bo Brock and whoever and some hardworking faster 3rd and 4th liners. It beats what they jave been doing for the last 5 seasons or so.
- Reubenkincade

Either:

1) It’s bullpoop spoon fed to fans. “Mentorship” is just code for we want to make the playoffs or stay in the hunt for as long as possible to keep casual fans interested. An unrealistic plan, and one that they’ve failed at for 3 consecutive years now. Bad plan, worse execution.

2) it’s just stupidity and they really do think that every young guy on this roster needs 3 mentors.


It’s hilarious that the short term vets are seemingly better mentors than the guys who have been signed for years. Boeser seems to give Vanek a lot of credit for helping him out since the summer.

MDZ has struggled on the ice but he stands up for teammates, plays physical, is one of the most vocal guys on the ice/bench(at least in the games I’ve attended so far).

Eriksson is no leader. He might be a nice hard working guy, but he’s no leader. Same with Gagner. I doubt these guys are completely different behind the scenes than what they show on the ice and on the bench.

EG can’t stay healthy and has talked up a bigger game than he actually plays. I was really hoping he would be as physical as MDZ is and be the emotional leader for this club, but he’s been a disappointment so far.

Sutter seems like he has some leadership qualities but the guy needs to stay healthy.

Honestly, I think he is harder on rookies, because, well, he is trying to set them up for long and successful careers, fair enough.
I think he is trying NOT to bench UFA signings (MDZ, Gagner/Ericsson) because it will deter future UFA's from wanting to play (mind you he did it with burmistrov). I also think it makes JB look bad if he benches or healthy scratched one of his acquisitions.
- Codes1087

I think it is a bit of both, bit of favoritism, bit of comfort, and maybe those guys make certain mistakes he can live with. To me, as long as he focuses on working with the youth to make them better, I am good. I care less what or how he uses the veterans as they are minute eaters between the important shifts

Oops, didn't know you were here.
- bloatedmosquito

Though the guddy trade hasn't worked out, aside from drafting and developing the dman, he would need to trade futures for it. We haven't had a good enough prospect pool for that.
Guddy had a good last 2 seasons in Florida before he came over and sucked. The only dman I wish we took were mcavoy and Carlo. I am still fine with o.j. over serg until o.j. proves to be a bust.
- Retinalz

He’s traded Kesler/McCann/plenty of picks so far, to not end up with one reliable decent dman yet is disappointing

Yet some people are acting like this team is way better. The only real difference is Boeser. If it weren’t for him this season would be ridiculously depressing.

The supporting cast for Brock/Bo still sucks. Benning has yet to bring in a good reliable dman and it’s year 4.
- Nucker101

This team rolls as B&B roll . Take them out or shut them down and this team does very little. You could easily lose the Twins and their 10 minutes and hefty contracts and bring in Gaudette . You have 30 plus mil to find replacements this year. If your answer is to bring back two untradeable Sedins and Vanek for another bottom 3 finish then you are (Nevermind).

We have Weichoich and Holmes in the AHL . You can move Hutton Tanev and Gudbrandson for picks and prospects . What's the worst that can happen ? A bottom 3 finish?

- WhiteLie

You Mods are like that mom who hides around corners or picks up the other phone line (dating myself) listening to their child's conversation.

Love ya mom.