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seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Feb 5 @ 11:17 AM ET
Olympic race-walking is a more compelling "sport" than football.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Feb 5 @ 11:18 AM ET
pretty sure they would
- navinrjohnson

In my time down here, I've seen a lot of ups and downs with Foles, but holy cow, it is hard to not think a switch turned on for him. His accuracy and poise through the playoffs were astounding.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Feb 5 @ 11:20 AM ET
Give me a coach who has those giant swinging balls all day long
- sbroads24

x 2. Its like Pederson trolled Belichick with that call. Don't think we got that creativity or guts in McD or Daboll. Hope I'm wrong.
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Feb 5 @ 11:23 AM ET
That's insane.

Foles might get a late first round or an early 2nd, no chance they get a top 5 pick for Foles

- Stripes77


Its Cleveland and they can sell it as we got the SB MVP.

I guess I am thinking it would be

4th Overall

for

32nd overall
Foles

buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 5 @ 11:23 AM ET
x 2. Its like Pederson trolled Belichick with that call. Don't think we got that creativity or guts in McD or Daboll. Hope I'm wrong.
- Hatboro_Swords



To be fair, I don't think you get that kind of creativity or guts from 90% of the coaches in this league.
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Feb 5 @ 11:25 AM ET
In my time down here, I've seen a lot of ups and downs with Foles, but holy cow, it is hard to not think a switch turned on for him. His accuracy and poise through the playoffs were astounding.
- Hatboro_Swords


This is how I feel. I know Foles has not been lights out his whole career, but he makes some serious throws and tons of those are while his feet are not set and those throws seem to be on target hitting a receiver on the move (not standing still). I would consider Foles with a 2nd round pick. We do have some communication with them from the Darby / Matthews trade, so who knows.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 5 @ 11:35 AM ET
This is how I feel. I know Foles has not been lights out his whole career, but he makes some serious throws and tons of those are while his feet are not set and those throws seem to be on target hitting a receiver on the move (not standing still). I would consider Foles with a 2nd round pick. We do have some communication with them from the Darby / Matthews trade, so who knows.
- Lilroot9



I never looked at the details of his contract. Philly would be stupid to move him for a 2nd at that cap hit. It's going to take a first at least. Otherwise, they get more value out of services rendered.
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Feb 5 @ 11:45 AM ET
To be fair, I don't think you get that kind of creativity or guts from 90% of the coaches in this league.
- buffalofan19

we have not had a creative coach for offense since Marv
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Feb 5 @ 11:50 AM ET
This is how I feel. I know Foles has not been lights out his whole career, but he makes some serious throws and tons of those are while his feet are not set and those throws seem to be on target hitting a receiver on the move (not standing still). I would consider Foles with a 2nd round pick. We do have some communication with them from the Darby / Matthews trade, so who knows.
- Lilroot9

Foles, like most qb's

100 % dependent on their situation and their o line

put him in behind the eagles O line, he is a fringe pro bowl player


put him in arizona or indy, and he is an overpaid bum
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 5 @ 11:53 AM ET
we have not had a creative coach for offense since Marv
- navinrjohnson



I agree, the bills keep hiring guys from the defensive side of the ball to be head coach.

Wade
Gregg Williams
Rick jauron
Rex
Mccdermot

Doug marrone Maybe?
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Feb 5 @ 12:11 PM ET
I guess I would want them to get a second QB to groom too, but you are saying they are going to trade a 1st round pick for Foles and then use the other first rounder on a QB? Or are you suggesting a later pick (2nd or 3rd) on a QB?

I am not saying it cant happen, as the other option seems to be to trade both first round picks and more for a single QB.

As much as I want Foles, I can see Cleveland trading 4th overall for Foles and a second rounder (or maybe pick 32). I think the Bills have Eagles 3rd rounder.

If Cleveland does not draft a QB at 1 overall, they should just give up. That is the main reason you ever want to be so bad to get #1 overall, is to take a QB, no other position is ever worth the #1 overall pick.

- Lilroot9



Why would they trade a #4 overall for him. That pick is worth way way more in football value.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 5 @ 12:26 PM ET
my brother texted me yesterday and said he absolutely hated your family, and that the whole Gerbe organization should be embarrassed.
- Der Kaiser

That hurt in the feels
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 5 @ 12:27 PM ET
In my time down here, I've seen a lot of ups and downs with Foles, but holy cow, it is hard to not think a switch turned on for him. His accuracy and poise through the playoffs were astounding.
- Hatboro_Swords


Hopefully the bills aren’t dumb
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Feb 5 @ 12:30 PM ET
That's insane.

Foles might get a late first round or an early 2nd, no chance they get a top 5 pick for Foles

- Stripes77


There is no chance he lands a first or 2nd this is not the NHL
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Feb 5 @ 1:17 PM ET
Why would they trade a #4 overall for him. That pick is worth way way more in football value.
- Fattony1187


Because its the Browns. Look back at some of the picks / trades they make with their first round (or 1st overall) picks. I am not saying it is a good idea, just saying they want a qb that bad.

They were going to trade a 2nd for AJ Mccaron? Come on now.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 5 @ 1:21 PM ET
There is no chance he lands a first or 2nd this is not the NHL
- GERBE!!!75PTS



If Alex Smith just got a 3rd and a skilled player, foles will garner a 1st or 2nd.

Superbowl mvp

Too many teams in need of a qb.

Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Feb 5 @ 1:21 PM ET
I never looked at the details of his contract. Philly would be stupid to move him for a 2nd at that cap hit. It's going to take a first at least. Otherwise, they get more value out of services rendered.
- buffalofan19


That is just it, that is his contract but he will hold out for more money , so when he is traded, his contact will be updated with more money. I highly doubt he shows up to camp happy about that contract price.

Here is what he did when he played for the Rams...
"Upset that the now-Los Angeles Rams drafted quarterback Jared Goff with the first overall pick of the 2016 NFL draft, Foles requested and was granted a release on July 27, 2016"

No way he sticks around knowing he can be a starter and get starter money somewhere else.
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Feb 5 @ 1:22 PM ET
If Alex Smith just got a 3rd and a skilled player, foles will garner a 1st or 2nd.

Superbowl mvp

Too many teams in need of a qb.

- Boss34


I agree with this. He will get a second for sure, if not a 1st. Isnt he like 4 years younger than Alex Smith too?
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