I'm not sure why ottawa would give up a possible top 1-5 pick for our garbage. This guy will be cost controlled, High end talent potential.

Nylander can't possibly have any value right now
2nd round pick - not the nfl
Bogo- combo of one of worst contract/player ability/ injury in nhl
Bailey- ahl minor league guy, closing in on 23 years old.

The sabres would jump at this offer
- Boss34

Because Ottawa is in a bind to keep the best Dman in the NHL on their roster. Odds are they go full-on rebuild and move Karlsson, but if they choose to keep him they need to clear cap space and that means paying someone to make it happen. This trade wouldn't be Ottawa doing us a favor by giving us Dion and taking Bogo, it might like look that way on paper, but this move would actually be us doing them a favor so they can keep their franchise player even though we get the best player in the deal.

No, Draft Dahlin and move on.
- ImThatGuy

Agreed

It’s not hate it’s reality.

I told everyone before the season, when his shooting % goes back to normal, he will score 20-24 goals if he plays 70-75 games. Which is good. But with his awful passing and below average D, makes him a 2nd liner.

He started on fire, and is regresssing back to what he’s always been.

A decent player, nothing special
- sbroads24

realistic expectations should be had


vanek produced much worse with mair than roy

rob ray produced much worse with hannan than lafontaine


kane produced much worse with larsson than eichel



stevie wonder can see why

Because Ottawa is in a bind to keep the best Dman in the NHL on their roster. Odds are they go full-on rebuild and move Karlsson, but if they choose to keep him they need to clear cap space and that means paying someone to make it happen. This trade wouldn't be Ottawa doing us a favor by giving us Dion and taking Bogo, it might like look that way on paper, but this move would actually be us doing them a favor so they can keep their franchise player even though we get the best player in the deal.
- sskkoo1

If they move on, Offer 2018 2nd, 2019 First, 2020 3rd and a prospect.

Sign Karlsson to a 7 year 70MM deal.

No, Draft Dahlin and move on.
- ImThatGuy

when have the sabre won anything?


If we come in last, I would not be shocked if we pick 4th

realistic expectations should be had


vanek produced much worse with mair than roy

rob ray produced much worse with hannan than lafontaine


kane produced much worse with larsson than eichel



stevie wonder can see why
- homiedclown

I would expect Kane's production to drop off a little playing with those guys, not the way it has though. It has fallen off the face of the earth. That is concerning to me, and I could see it being a concern to other teams. Really weird time to "Try that experiment"

when have the sabre won anything?


If we come in last, I would not be shocked if we pick 4th
- homiedclown

Sabres finish last, draft orders goes

Ottawa
Montreal
Edmonton
Buffalo

I can see it now.

I would expect Kane's production to drop off a little playing with those guys, not the way it has though. It has fallen off the face of the earth. That is concerning to me, and I could see it being a concern to other teams. Really weird time to "Try that experiment"
- ImThatGuy

The reason hes buried on the third line and not producing is so that we can actually get a return for him.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was given the directive to take it easy until he gets moved.

Would you rather him have better production on Eichel's line, taking risks, and have a almost exponential chance of him getting hurt compared to the current situation?

Other GMs know what he is regardless of the last stretch.

Would not surprise me in the least if this move of putting Kane back with Eichel is to have him get a couple points as a "He still has it" thing. If he scores a goal tonight hes gone by the weekend.

Sabres finish last, draft orders goes

Ottawa
Montreal
Edmonton
Buffalo

I can see it now.
- ImThatGuy

With the 1st pick in the 2018 NHL entry draft the Edmonton Oilers select............

If they move on, Offer 2018 2nd, 2019 First, 2020 3rd and a prospect.

Sign Karlsson to a 7 year 70MM deal.
- ImThatGuy

It would be great to have him, but I don't see us having another 12M to spend on one guy. Over the next few years, Mittlestadt, our 2018 1st, possibly Sam, Ullmark, Ghule, possibly Nylander, and others will all want to be paid. With Eichel and Karlsson eating 22M, where's that cap space going to come from?

Karlsson will also have diminishing returns. He's still great, but he's lost a step since his injury, 8 years at 12M per is a HUGE commitment that I don't know if we should embark on.

Because Ottawa is in a bind to keep the best Dman in the NHL on their roster. Odds are they go full-on rebuild and move Karlsson, but if they choose to keep him they need to clear cap space and that means paying someone to make it happen. This trade wouldn't be Ottawa doing us a favor by giving us Dion and taking Bogo, it might like look that way on paper, but this move would actually be us doing them a favor so they can keep their franchise player even though we get the best player in the deal.
- sskkoo1

Why would a rebuilding team give up an unprotected 1st round pick?

That pick could add an instant cost controlled player. Trading away that pick puts them in way worse shape.

As we know: rebuilding is a process.
Statting with picking early and often

realistic expectations should be had


vanek produced much worse with mair than roy

rob ray produced much worse with hannan than lafontaine


kane produced much worse with larsson than eichel



stevie wonder can see why
- homiedclown

What happened: to Kane's our best player, he should be in the allstar game?

Kane can not carry a line (hockey terms)

Even the kane fans have to admit he's been a huge let down the past 20 games.

Pittsburgh wanted kane, now they want larson or girgs. That's a drop off. Maybe it has to do with kane's recent play.

Why would a rebuilding team give up an unprotected 1st round pick?

That pick could add an instant cost controlled player. Trading away that pick puts them in way worse shape.

As we know: rebuilding is a process.
Statting with picking early and often
- Boss34

If they elected to keep Karlsson, they're not rebuilding. If they move him for a boatload of picks and prospects and keep their 1st this year, they are.

The reason hes buried on the third line and not producing is so that we can actually get a return for him.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was given the directive to take it easy until he gets moved.

Would you rather him have better production on Eichel's line, taking risks, and have a almost exponential chance of him getting hurt compared to the current situation?

Other GMs know what he is regardless of the last stretch.

Would not surprise me in the least if this move of putting Kane back with Eichel is to have him get a couple points as a "He still has it" thing. If he scores a goal tonight hes gone by the weekend.
- Shadman306

So if kane plays well and scores, he will be more likely to be traded sooner?

What happened to "other gms know at he is regardless of the last stretch"

Playing better brings in a better return.

Teams want a hot player at the deadline.
Less teams will have an interest if he continues to suck balls. The supply and demand thing.

With the 1st pick in the 2018 NHL entry draft the Edmonton Oilers select............
- SABRES 89

Zadina.... it would be hilarious if they got the pick and passed up on Dahlin..

If they elected to keep Karlsson, they're not rebuilding. If they move him for a boatload of picks and prospects and keep their 1st this year, they are.
- sskkoo1

They should be rebuilding:

29th in the nhl

Karlsson and duShane should be traded

Hello Binghamton.

Hello Binghamton.
- Der Kaiser

Hello Malibu

Hello Binghamton.
- Der Kaiser

Hide your wallet.

Tom and Marty's has my favorite wings.

B-Devils are playing the Amerks on Saturday..

They should be rebuilding:

29th in the nhl

Karlsson and duShane should be traded
- Boss34

We'll know after their fire sale and by the draft, if they don't hold a press conference saying so.

Hide your wallet.

Tom and Marty's has my favorite wings.

B-Devils are playing the Amerks on Saturday..
- feetontheair22

Presently Scranton. Philly by dinner and back to ROC before I sleep.

Hello Binghamton.
- Der Kaiser

Hello right back at you.

Like everyone else, enjoy getting out.

Presently Scranton. Philly by dinner and back to ROC before I sleep.
- Der Kaiser

On your Number 5 post:

Going there with the wife 2/16, she got to pick this year. I tend to like Lampy's which is owned by the same guy and is a little more Mediterranean. Pretty solid.

I tend to like the Honey Horseradish Shrimp and of course, when I'm taken to dinner by a vendor, they always want to stop by the bar and check out the oil painting of the half naked woman.

Hello Malibu
- sbroads24

Eerily similar to Binghamton....

Just toss some lsd in a bathtub for him and lock the door
- washedup20

That would be an fd up way to trip out