We should have moved Kane when he was on fire his value definitely decreased

Hoffman catches the rumored asking price that the Sabres want for Kane. 1st, roster player and a prospect. Hoffman is better than Kane and has term, so He gets it.
- ImThatGuy

Ehhhhhhh...

I would I know it sounds crazy, I've always liked Phaneuf.
- SABRES 89

agreed

We should have moved Kane when he was on fire his value definitely decreased
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Kane gets you

a conditional first, B prospect and salary dump(roster player).

Or

A prospect, 3rd and salary dump.

Thrown in a condition that if he signs you get a 2nd too.

Yeah for sure. It's hard to gauge what a salary dump is worth to a cheap owner like Melnyk. It's been reported that the GM and staff have to clean their own offices to save money

I'd up it to a 2nd and throw in Bailey with Nylander and Bogo. Hoffman is really good
- jcragcrumple[/quote]

Way too much

Sell, Sell, Sell Mortimer.
- SABRES 89

[quote=jcragcrumple]Yeah for sure. It's hard to gauge what a salary dump is worth to a cheap owner like Melnyk. It's been reported that the GM and staff have to clean their own offices to save money

I'd up it to a 2nd and throw in Bailey with Nylander and Bogo. Hoffman is really good
- GERBE!!!75PTS[/quote]

Way too much

Is it though? None of those guys are very good. The Sabres would be getting the two best players by far. Maybe Nylander is good later. Maybe

We should have moved Kane when he was on fire his value definitely decreased
- GERBE!!!75PTS

- homiedclown

Beef Jerky Time

Kane gets you

a conditional first, B prospect and salary dump(roster player).

Or

A prospect, 3rd and salary dump.

Thrown in a condition that if he signs you get a 2nd too.
- ImThatGuy

4 goals in his last 28 games

0 goals and 1 assist in his last 9

I think you're just looking at first round pick the return he was rumored to get was when he was on that hot streak he has been so bad lately

Ehhhhhhh...
- feetontheair22

Term - Favors Hoffman
Salary - favors Hoffman
Points Last 4 years - Favors Hoffman (198 V Kane 136)
Past history - Favors Hoffman

- homiedclown

4 goals in his last 28 games

0 goals and 1 assist in his last 9

Ehhhhhhh...
- feetontheair22

Last 3 years...


Hoffman
279games 94 goals 104 assists 198 points

0.71 pts/game


Kane
222 games 74 goals 62 assists 136 points

0.61 pts/game

4 goals in his last 28 games

0 goals and 1 assist in his last 9
- GERBE!!!75PTS

player A is on a wing with larsson


player B is on a wing with stamkos




who produces more?



you guys need to back away from the ledge because your hate for Kane has put on blinders that stevie wonder can see through

Last 3 years...


Hoffman
279games 94 goals 104 assists 198 points

0.71 pts/game


Kane
222 games 74 goals 62 assists 136 points

0.61 pts/game
- Lilroot9

You have to put age into the factor Kane 26 , Hoffman 28

Last 3 years...


Hoffman
279games 94 goals 104 assists 198 points

0.71 pts/game


Kane
222 games 74 goals 62 assists 136 points

0.61 pts/game
- Lilroot9

flip side to that coin


there is a lockout in 19-20 and we only have hoffman for 1 year and then he becomes free agent

Term - Favors Hoffman
Salary - favors Hoffman
Points Last 4 years - Favors Hoffman (198 V Kane 136)
Past history - Favors Hoffman
- ImThatGuy

I thought you were talking purely about on-ice talent. I can't disagree that Hoffman has a better salary and term.

As far as the points, I'm not sure a pure points analysis does service to the physicality and speed that Kane brings to the game.

I'm not saying Hoffman is worse, I'm just not willing to say he is better.

player A is on a wing with larsson


player B is on a wing with stamkos




who produces more?



you guys need to back away from the ledge because your hate for Kane has put on blinders that stevie wonder can see through
- homiedclown

You could say that about any player put grabner with Stamkos and he cost way less

I'm not saying Hoffman is worse, I'm just not willing to say he is better.
- feetontheair22

neither can make the 3rd line better with the scrubs we have

You have to put age into the factor Kane 26 , Hoffman 28
- GERBE!!!75PTS

So, both in their Prime, Kane about to make 7MM for 7 Years. Which puts him in his 30s, the team Kane is traded to only gets two months out of him.

Hoffman gets 3 years and contract is up by 31.

neither can make the 3rd line better with the scrubs we have
- homiedclown

Tru dat yo

You could say that about any player put grabner with Stamkos and he cost way less
- GERBE!!!75PTS

but you are spewing stuff that has next to no effect on his trade status

he is top 5 goal scoring lw in gpg over the last 2 1/2 seasons

yeah kane is not producing now


kane is also off first team pp and playing with larsson for most of those games



any gm gets it, why doesn't the people here?


his value is not dropping

So, both in their Prime, Kane about to make 7MM for 7 Years. Which puts him in his 30s, the team Kane is traded to only gets two months out of him.

Hoffman gets 3 years and contract is up by 31.
- ImThatGuy

I don't want either of them but you have to put the lock out in the equation

I thought you were talking purely about on-ice talent. I can't disagree that Hoffman has a better salary and term.

As far as the points, I'm not sure a pure points analysis does service to the physicality and speed that Kane brings to the game.

I'm not saying Hoffman is worse, I'm just not willing to say he is better.
- feetontheair22

Girgensons also brings this, as does Larsson and countless other. If you are not scoring, it does noting for me.

Put the puck in the net, that's what wins, Hoffman is far better at that.

but you are spewing stuff that has next to no effect on his trade status

he is top 5 goal scoring lw in gpg over the last 2 1/2 seasons

yeah kane is not producing now


kane is also off first team pp and playing with larsson for most of those games



any gm gets it, why doesn't the people here?


his value is not dropping
- homiedclown

All of the rumors and scuttlebutt that I've seen around the Interwebs says the price is either remaining steady or going up