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NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 24 @ 9:47 PM ET
Jake and MDZ did challenge Lewis last night but said his hand was taped . I think that's bullsh1t that's his problem not yours
- VANTEL


Didn't a Canuck get suspended for fighting with a taped hand a bit ago? (Guddy...?)

I get wanting to retaliate, but is there some semblance of a code? I'm sure fighting a guy knowing he has a busted hand ain't that cool. Would rather them make a heavy hit/shot on Kopitar or Doughty at that point.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 24 @ 9:48 PM ET
I-Mac reading the blog again...
http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...among-rebuilding-canucks/


"What makes the outcry for toughness – for players to protect young guys like Boeser – confusing is that Dorsett and Gudbranson were frequently criticized, by fans and the media, even disparaged by many bloggers, when they played due to their relatively high salaries and relatively low possession numbers".

- dbot

"Nor has defenceman Edler fought in 11 NHL seasons. Just two weeks ago, Edler declined a dance invitation from noted Columbus tough guy Artemi Panarin after the Canuck threw a heavy bodycheck on a Blue Jacket. "

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 24 @ 9:49 PM ET
Maybe if we were losing...i see the logic.
plus the kid is in the doghouse, probably not as keen to take risks as a DD would be.

- dbot



It was 5-2
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 24 @ 9:50 PM ET
It was 5-2
- VANTEL



That's what i mean, he was probably tentative about firing up the Kings and letting them back in the game by taking a penalty (to say nothing of the wrath of the coach)
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 24 @ 9:51 PM ET
"Nor has defenceman Edler fought in 11 NHL seasons. Just two weeks ago, Edler declined a dance invitation from noted Columbus tough guy Artemi Panarin after the Canuck threw a heavy bodycheck on a Blue Jacket. "


- Retinalz


Setting the standard, how pathetic
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 24 @ 9:51 PM ET
I-Mac reading the blog again...
http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...among-rebuilding-canucks/


"What makes the outcry for toughness – for players to protect young guys like Boeser – confusing is that Dorsett and Gudbranson were frequently criticized, by fans and the media, even disparaged by many bloggers, when they played due to their relatively high salaries and relatively low possession numbers".

- dbot


Dorsett fought way more than EG. And was more physical game in and out. Not fair to put them in the same category. He cost a 3rd round pick and made 2.5M, not a cap crippling salary.


Apples to oranges.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 24 @ 9:51 PM ET

That's what i mean, he was probably tentative about firing up the Kings and letting them back in the game by taking a penalty (to say nothing of the wrath of the coach)

- dbot

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 24 @ 9:52 PM ET
Didn't a Canuck get suspended for fighting with a taped hand a bit ago? (Guddy...?)

I get wanting to retaliate, but is there some semblance of a code? I'm sure fighting a guy knowing he has a busted hand ain't that cool. Would rather them make a heavy hit/shot on Kopitar or Doughty at that point.

- NewYorkNuck

Agreed
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 24 @ 9:53 PM ET
Dorsett fought way more than EG. And was more physical game in and out. Not fair to put them in the same category. He cost a 3rd round pick and made 2.5M, not a cap crippling salary.


Apples to oranges.

- Nucker101


They have 10 fighting majors this season, which ranks in the middle of the NHL, and Dorsett had four of them. Defenceman Erik Gudbranson has two — the only other Canuck with more than one fighting major.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 24 @ 9:54 PM ET
They have 10 fighting majors this season, which ranks in the middle of the NHL, and Dorsett had four of them. Defenceman Erik Gudbranson has two — the only other Canuck with more than one fighting major.
- dbot

Dorsett has 4 in way less games. That guy was a warrior for us for sure. He also threw a lot of hits and brought energy.

No one can say with a straight face that EG has been a warrior for this team.

One guy made 2.5M and cost a 3rd round pick to acquire. Expected to be a 4th kind energy player.


One guy cost a former 1st round prospect + 2nd and is demanding big money long term. Expected to be a top 4 dman. Instead he’s been a wasteman.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 24 @ 9:54 PM ET

That's what i mean, he was probably tentative about firing up the Kings and letting them back in the game by taking a penalty (to say nothing of the wrath of the coach)

- dbot



Did you think it will hurt their playoff chances?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 24 @ 9:55 PM ET
Did you think it will hurt their playoff chances?
- VANTEL

If Lewis refuses to fight the only revenge they could’ve gotten is trying to run Doughty or Kopitar.


VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 24 @ 9:56 PM ET
Setting the standard, how pathetic
- VanHockeyGuy

Mentorship
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 24 @ 9:59 PM ET
If Lewis refuses to fight the only revenge they could’ve gotten is trying to run Doughty or Kopitar.
- Nucker101


right, who does that
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 24 @ 10:00 PM ET
Dorsett has 4 in way less games. That guy was a warrior for us for sure. He also threw a lot of hits and brought energy.

No one can say with a straight face that EG has been a warrior for this team.

- Nucker101


I know who DD is.
But Guddy is 2nd in fights.
That says more about what the team is lacking rather than Guddy is a warrior.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 24 @ 10:00 PM ET
Did you think it will hurt their playoff chances?
- VANTEL


My point was it might hurt JV's career chances by keeping him in the doghouse.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 24 @ 10:01 PM ET
right
- VanHockeyGuy


I mean you can sort of force him into fighting by “jumping” him right away like how Hutton fought recently.

But who was going to do that with the Sedins, Edler and Horvat on the ice?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 24 @ 10:01 PM ET
I know who DD is.
But Guddy is 2nd in fights.
That says more about what the team is lacking rather than Guddy is a warrior.

- dbot


I agree. But that article you quoted was defending him. He deserves criticism.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 24 @ 10:02 PM ET
right, who does that
- VanHockeyGuy



Hutton or Biega
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 24 @ 10:02 PM ET
If Lewis refuses to fight the only revenge they could’ve gotten is trying to run Doughty or Kopitar.
- Nucker101


Brock's revenge was way sweeter imo.
That was just perfect.

But hey, taking a mindless penalty and getting benched seems to be the preferred move around here.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 24 @ 10:03 PM ET
I agree. But that article you quoted was defending him. He deserves criticism.
- Nucker101


I blame Tree. For leaving...
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 24 @ 10:05 PM ET
Brock's revenge was way sweeter imo.
That was just perfect.

But hey, taking a mindless penalty and getting benched seems to be the preferred move around here.

- dbot


A goal is the best revenge and a good deterrent as well. But once the game is in hand I’m 100% on board with sending a message. Taking a penalty to stand up for your rookie star player when you’re up 6-2 is hardly an issue.

I doubt even Green would mind. If it’s a close game then it’s a different story.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 24 @ 10:06 PM ET
Brock's revenge was way sweeter imo.
That was just perfect.

But hey, taking a mindless penalty and getting benched seems to be the preferred move around here.

- dbot



So it is better to send a message that is ok to hit our teams stars is a better solution? what happens if Brock gets a concussion or broken collar bone.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 24 @ 10:06 PM ET
I blame Tree. For leaving...
- dbot


He’ll be back.

Rick Dhaliwal
@DhaliwalSports
I asked Volkov if Tryamkin will ever return to Vancouver, " He talks about it, he wants to go back someday. He will give it 1 more shot when he's ready." #Canucks


Volkov is the assistant GM of Tree’s KHL team
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 24 @ 10:13 PM ET
He’ll be back.

Rick Dhaliwal
@DhaliwalSports
I asked Volkov if Tryamkin will ever return to Vancouver, " He talks about it, he wants to go back someday. He will give it 1 more shot when he's ready." #Canucks


Volkov is the assistant GM of Tree’s KHL team

- Nucker101


Dahlin Tree and OJ would speed up our playoff chance next year
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