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cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 25 @ 9:55 PM ET
I'd take those 2 over eichel and ror


as would any hockey fan outside of WNY

- homiedclown

I need a jack trick tonight
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 25 @ 9:55 PM ET
when has that ever happened on this site


aside from a public apology I made to ryan miller 7 years ago

- homiedclown


I just said I was wrong 20 minutes ago. And yesterday.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 25 @ 9:55 PM ET
Oh, come on, that was funny.
- Wetbandit1

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 25 @ 9:56 PM ET
Then why wasn’t he on Team Canada over O’Reilly?
Could it be that you’re excluding other factors?
Hmmmmmmm

And why didn’t Perrault get more icetime before Laine & Ehlers were there?


Carlson has more 5v5pts than Karlsson...
I’ll bet he doesn’t play more
EXPLAIN THAT

Kane has the same as Matthews
O’Reilly has more than Toews

And on, and on, and on...

#StopTheCherryPicking

- jdfitz77

Shots per 60

Ryan O’Reilly 6.78
Perrault 8.4


Perrault is better offensively. It’s not s debate
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 25 @ 9:56 PM ET
I just said I was wrong 20 minutes ago. And yesterday.
- Wetbandit1

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 25 @ 9:56 PM ET
I'd take those 2 over eichel and ror


as would any hockey fan outside of WNY

- homiedclown



Of course, but you can't trade ROR and Eichel for those two. The point you were trying to make is that the Sabres suck, even with ROR, so they should shop him. Well, the Oilers suck with those 2, so by your logic...
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 25 @ 9:57 PM ET

- homiedclown

Go back every page until 25 and who is at the top
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 25 @ 9:57 PM ET
Benched evander for the first time all year:


Put in okposo

- Boss34

I wonder if okposo was playing scared to start the season


big difference last few weeks in his game



jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 25 @ 9:57 PM ET
Fine I’ll do this -

Perrault points per 60 (efficiency)

17-18 2.36
16-17 1.87
15-16 1.61

Ryan O’Reilly p/60

17-18 - 1.38
16-17 - 1.38
15-16 - 1.42

Seriously, just admit you’re wrong and stop already

- sbroads24


Sam Reinhart had more points per 60 last year than Erik Karlsson

https://www.sportingchart...-per-60-min-leaders/2016/

Your stat is ridiculous
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 25 @ 9:58 PM ET
Go back every page until 25 and who is at the top
- cabin

Qua-anza La' Agie Wan?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 25 @ 9:58 PM ET
There's more to it than even that and you know it.

All 3 phases

Best faceoff man in the league

2 pims this year

- jcragcrumple

Perrault is 61.1 on the dot
O’Reilly is 61.4 on the dot

Huge difference. Like one faceoff per 20 game different
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 25 @ 9:58 PM ET
Perrault is 61.1 on the dot
O’Reilly is 61.4 on the dot

Huge difference. Like one faceoff per 20 game different

- sbroads24


Give me attempts
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 25 @ 9:59 PM ET
Of course, but you can't trade ROR and Eichel for those two. The point you were trying to make is that the Sabres suck, even with ROR, so they should shop him. Well, the Oilers suck with those 2, so by your logic...
- jcragcrumple

Replace ror with Casey(with a year experience) and then what happens
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 25 @ 9:59 PM ET
Sam Reinhart had more points per 60 last year than Erik Karlsson

https://www.sportingchart...-per-60-min-leaders/2016/

Your stat is ridiculous

- jdfitz77

Most forwards have higher P/60 than D men.

It’s an efficiency stat.

You don’t know what you are talking about
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 25 @ 9:59 PM ET
Shots per 60

Ryan O’Reilly 6.78
Perrault 8.4


Perrault is better offensively. It’s not s debate

- sbroads24



Explain how Kane & Mathews have the same 5v5 points

Explain how Carlson has more than Karlsson
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 25 @ 10:00 PM ET
Replace ror with Casey(with a year experience) and then what happens
- cabin


Idk, what?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 25 @ 10:00 PM ET
Maybe? Like I said though we all know who Kane is, we've got almost 550 games of sample size. I don't think a team that's making a serious offer is going to suddenly pull the offer because he's gone cold after a blistering, for him, start.

And as far as wanting a hot player, that's the crapshoot in making a trade. Cold guys have been traded and gone on a tear and hot guys have been traded and didn't do a damn thing. You never know until you put said player into the situation.

- Wetbandit1


I would rather have a hot player than a cold player if I were a gm at the deadline. Or pay less for the cold player.

Vanek is hot. His value is UP.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 25 @ 10:01 PM ET
The point you were trying to make is that the Sabres suck, even with ROR, ..
- jcragcrumple

no


my point is ror does not have wheels

botts did not obtained him

he makes a lot of money and people are talking about him as a 3rd liner if/when we are good

we dont come close to the playoffs


and it's a cap era


5 big points, if you want another lehner/rask pissing contest, tell me which of these 5 points I am wrong on, or GET OFF MY A$$


sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 25 @ 10:01 PM ET
Give me attempts
- jcragcrumple

And that matters....how? He’s been over 50% his whole career.

Do the math. How much different is 5-10%?

20-30 faceoff wins over the course of a year?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 25 @ 10:01 PM ET
Most forwards have higher P/60 than D men.

It’s an efficiency stat.

You don’t know what you are talking about

- sbroads24



Josh Leivo was 3rd
He’s a 3rd liner... not the 3rd best player!

Your stat is ridiculous

Do i need to keep pointing out all the irregularities?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 25 @ 10:02 PM ET
Explain how Kane & Mathews have the same 5v5 points

Explain how Carlson has more than Karlsson

- jdfitz77

No.

You’re wrong, I’m done here
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 25 @ 10:03 PM ET
I wonder if okposo was playing scared to start the season


big difference last few weeks in his game

- homiedclown



I think so and he was not with jack.

When you have kids and almost die, it's scary

I could be wrong, but I like kyle. Seams like a great guy. He's playing a bit angry too.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 25 @ 10:04 PM ET
No.

You’re wrong, I’m done here

- sbroads24



Because u can’t...
not without admitting there’s more to it that taking this stat or that stat and ignoring all the other things that go into it

You certainly are done...
like toast
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 25 @ 10:04 PM ET
Josh Leivo was 3rd
He’s a 3rd liner... not the 3rd best player!

- jdfitz77

Yeah, setting a minimum ice time is probably best

Minimum of 200 minutes, top points per 60 players

Schwartz
Marchand
Mackinnon


Scrubs, I know
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 25 @ 10:04 PM ET
El Paso
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