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gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jan 25 @ 2:23 PM ET
Sure would have been fun to watch this team during the olympics.. USA is closing the gap with Canada

Forwards
Line 1
Johnny Gaudreau
Auston Matthews
Patrick Kane

Line 2
James van Riemsdyk
Jack Eichel
Phil Kessel

Line 3
Max Pacioretty
Joe Pavelski
Blake Wheeler

Line 4
Brandon Saad
Ryan Kesler
T.J. Oshie


Defensemen
Pairing 1
Ryan Suter
Jacob Trouba

Pairing 2
Zach Werenski
Seth Jones

Pairing 3
Cam Fowler
Ryan McDonagh

Goalies
Starter
Cory Schneider
Backup
Connor Hellebuyck
Backup
Jonathan Quick


Extras: Dylan Larkin, J.T. Miller, Shayne Gostisbehere, Kevin Shattenkirk
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 25 @ 2:24 PM ET
http://www.rileymartin.com/riley_martin_bobblehead.html

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- RhinoFan

collector item


jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 25 @ 2:26 PM ET
Sure would have been fun to watch this team during the olympics.. USA is closing the gap with Canada

Forwards
Line 1
Johnny Gaudreau
Auston Matthews
Patrick Kane

Line 2
James van Riemsdyk
Jack Eichel
Phil Kessel

Line 3
Max Pacioretty
Joe Pavelski
Blake Wheeler

Line 4
Brandon Saad
Ryan Kesler
T.J. Oshie


Defensemen
Pairing 1
Ryan Suter
Jacob Trouba

Pairing 2
Zach Werenski
Seth Jones

Pairing 3
Cam Fowler
Ryan McDonagh

Goalies
Starter
Cory Schneider
Backup
Connor Hellebuyck
Backup
Jonathan Quick


Extras: Dylan Larkin, J.T. Miller, Shayne Gostisbehere, Kevin Shattenkirk

- gordong





Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 25 @ 2:39 PM ET
Sure would have been fun to watch this team during the olympics.. USA is closing the gap with Canada

Forwards
Line 1
Johnny Gaudreau
Auston Matthews
Patrick Kane

Line 2
James van Riemsdyk
Jack Eichel
Phil Kessel

Line 3
Max Pacioretty
Joe Pavelski
Blake Wheeler

Line 4
Brandon Saad
Ryan Kesler
T.J. Oshie


Defensemen
Pairing 1
Ryan Suter
Jacob Trouba

Pairing 2
Zach Werenski
Seth Jones

Pairing 3
Cam Fowler
Ryan McDonagh

Goalies
Starter
Cory Schneider
Backup
Connor Hellebuyck
Backup
Jonathan Quick


Extras: Dylan Larkin, J.T. Miller, Shayne Gostisbehere, Kevin Shattenkirk

- gordong



You know what's strange about the top 2 lines

Matthews -1st overall
Kane - 1st overall
James van riemdyke- 2nd overall
Eichel - 2nd overall
Kessel- 5th overall
Ryan suter - 7th overall
Trouba - 9th overall
Zach Werenski - 8th overall
Seth jones- 4th overall

Weren't you trying to point out that hall of famers and great players get picked through out the draft yesterday.

Seams like high picks turn into top players


Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 25 @ 2:50 PM ET
Sure would have been fun to watch this team during the olympics.. USA is closing the gap with Canada

Forwards
Line 1
Johnny Gaudreau
Auston Matthews
Patrick Kane

Line 2
James van Riemsdyk
Jack Eichel
Phil Kessel

Line 3
Max Pacioretty
Joe Pavelski
Blake Wheeler

Line 4
Brandon Saad
Ryan Kesler
T.J. Oshie


Defensemen
Pairing 1
Ryan Suter
Jacob Trouba

Pairing 2
Zach Werenski
Seth Jones

Pairing 3
Cam Fowler
Ryan McDonagh

Goalies
Starter
Cory Schneider
Backup
Connor Hellebuyck
Backup
Jonathan Quick


Extras: Dylan Larkin, J.T. Miller, Shayne Gostisbehere, Kevin Shattenkirk

- gordong



I don't think it's any closer to canada than it was before...probably more exciting though
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 25 @ 2:51 PM ET
God I hate this team
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jan 25 @ 2:51 PM ET
You know what's strange about the top 2 lines

Matthews -1st overall
Kane - 1st overall
James van riemdyke- 2nd overall
Eichel - 2nd overall
Kessel- 5th overall
Ryan suter - 7th overall
Trouba - 9th overall
Zach Werenski - 8th overall
Seth jones- 4th overall

Weren't you trying to point out that hall of famers and great players get picked through out the draft yesterday.
Seams like high picks turn into top players

- Boss34

But but but gaudreau went 104th overall. We should just stockpile 4th round picks.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 25 @ 2:56 PM ET
But but but gaudreau went 104th overall. We should just stockpile 4th round picks.
- TheHank



nah, you're just supposed to believe in the scouting staff to conveniently find all star talent in areas where you have roughly a 5% chance of finding someone for your fourth line
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 25 @ 3:04 PM ET
nah, you're just supposed to believe in the scouting staff to conveniently find all star talent in areas where you have roughly a 5% chance of finding someone for your fourth line
- Sabresfan-365


Who was that bumhole on twitter comparing Eichel and Jason (frank)ing Chimera
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 25 @ 3:11 PM ET
Who was that bumhole on twitter comparing Eichel and Jason (frank)ing Chimera
- TheSabresTaco



He works for the Avalanche now

Edit: this guy said the actual quote though

https://twitter.com/garik...status/916092079708803073
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 25 @ 3:14 PM ET
But but but gaudreau went 104th overall. We should just stockpile 4th round picks.
- TheHank


Lol

I conveniently left Johnny hockey out.

90% of the top 2 lines are top 9 picks.

Thats why I want another early pick
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 25 @ 3:15 PM ET
https://twitter.com/BuffN...status/956615921094737920


oh my god
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jan 25 @ 3:16 PM ET
nah, you're just supposed to believe in the scouting staff to conveniently find all star talent in areas where you have roughly a 5% chance of finding someone for your fourth line
- Sabresfan-365

I knew it was something like that. Makes perfect sense.
Maybe some gm will just give us 20 4th-7th rd picks for kane.
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jan 25 @ 3:17 PM ET
You know what's strange about the top 2 lines

Matthews -1st overall
Kane - 1st overall
James van riemdyke- 2nd overall
Eichel - 2nd overall
Kessel- 5th overall
Ryan suter - 7th overall
Trouba - 9th overall
Zach Werenski - 8th overall
Seth jones- 4th overall

Weren't you trying to point out that hall of famers and great players get picked through out the draft yesterday.

Seams like high picks turn into top players

- Boss34


Sure it helps but we don't need to be the drafting in the top 5... there are guys that are really good that get drafted after the top 5.... (I like how to conveniently left off the third and fourth line players from above. and when is the last time we got someone in the 3-7 round that was worth a crap.... Hell we have blown two of the top 10 picks.

I'm not apologizing for wanting my team to not suck anymore... and drafting in the 1-16 spots is not where I want to be drafting anymore. F that, just win.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jan 25 @ 3:17 PM ET
Lol

I conveniently left Johnny hockey out.

90% of the top 2 lines are top 9 picks.

Thats why I want another early pick

- Boss34

I was completely agreeing with you there. Figured someone would actually point him out and make an argument for scouting and drafting well though.
We are on the same page here.
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Jan 25 @ 3:18 PM ET
Sure would have been fun to watch this team during the olympics.. USA is closing the gap with Canada

Forwards
Line 1
Johnny Gaudreau
Auston Matthews
Patrick Kane

Line 2
James van Riemsdyk
Jack Eichel
Phil Kessel

Line 3
Max Pacioretty
Joe Pavelski
Blake Wheeler

Line 4
Brandon Saad
Ryan Kesler
T.J. Oshie


Defensemen
Pairing 1
Ryan Suter
Jacob Trouba

Pairing 2
Zach Werenski
Seth Jones

Pairing 3
Cam Fowler
Ryan McDonagh

Goalies
Starter
Cory Schneider
Backup
Connor Hellebuyck
Backup
Jonathan Quick


Extras: Dylan Larkin, J.T. Miller, Shayne Gostisbehere, Kevin Shattenkirk

- gordong



Forwards:

Line 1
Sidney Crosby
Brad Marchand
Patrice Bergeron

Line 2
Connor McDavid
Steven Stamkos
Nathan MacKinnon

Line 3
John Tavares
Claud Geroux
Janie Benn

Line 4
Jonathan Toews
Shawn Couturier
Tyler Seguin

Defence and goalies: who cares



SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jan 25 @ 3:19 PM ET
Jesus Christ he's not trading ROR for Hanifin.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 25 @ 3:19 PM ET
I knew it was something like that. Makes perfect sense.
Maybe some gm will just give us 20 4th-7th rd picks for kane.

- TheHank


Interestingly enough I think the Islanders actually tried to game this very strategy with the Jackets in the 2012 draft.


IIRC didn't they try to trade all of their picks to move up 2 spots to take Ryan Murray?

Jackets declined but then immediately fired like 80% of the crew they had at the draft.

Not that Murray is great or anything but he would end up being the best player in that deal
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jan 25 @ 3:20 PM ET
Jesus Christ he's not trading ROR for Hanifin.
- SABRES 89



But it was an (e4).

I don't really know what any of that means.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jan 25 @ 3:20 PM ET
Sure it helps but we don't need to be the drafting in the top 5... there are guys that are really good that get drafted after the top 5.... (I like how to conveniently left off the third and fourth line players from above. and when is the last time we got someone in the 3-7 round that was worth a crap.... Hell we have blown two of the top 10 picks.

I'm not apologizing for wanting my team to not suck anymore... and drafting in the 1-16 spots is not where I want to be drafting anymore. F that, just win.

- gordong

So we are 50% when drafting in the top ten in the last 4 years and almost zero % in later rounds seemingly ever as you mentioned.
Draft position doesnt matter.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 25 @ 3:21 PM ET
Forwards:

Line 1
Sidney Crosby
Brad Marchand
Patrice Bergeron

Line 2
Connor McDavid
Steven Stamkos
Nathan MacKinnon

Line 3
John Tavares
Claud Geroux
Janie Benn

Line 4
Jonathan Toews
Shawn Couturier
Tyler Seguin

Defence and goalies: who cares

- Matthews_Auston


Scheifele, Hall, Barzal, Stone
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jan 25 @ 3:22 PM ET
But it was an (e4).

I don't really know what any of that means.

- thatsapickle

Why in the hell would the Canes trade a stud D man like Hanifin ? We have no reason to move ROR, E4 means wrong again.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 25 @ 3:22 PM ET
Jesus Christ he's not trading ROR for Hanifin.
- SABRES 89

He really should though
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 25 @ 3:22 PM ET
Sure it helps but we don't need to be the drafting in the top 5... there are guys that are really good that get drafted after the top 5.... (I like how to conveniently left off the third and fourth line players from above. and when is the last time we got someone in the 3-7 round that was worth a crap.... Hell we have blown two of the top 10 picks.

I'm not apologizing for wanting my team to not suck anymore... and drafting in the 1-16 spots is not where I want to be drafting anymore. F that, just win.

- gordong



except you realize no matter how many games they win they will be drafting in that spot this year?

I don't want them trying for a top pick, but that is where the chips fell this year and it's likely the best long term outcome since the short term goals are dead.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jan 25 @ 3:23 PM ET
Scheifele, Hall, Barzal, Stone
- Sabresfan-365

Scheifele is a great player
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