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cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 24 @ 8:19 PM ET
Any word if another board has claimed him yet?
- JetpackJesus

Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jan 24 @ 8:20 PM ET
Fitz , some people do not want to hear it. They are sick of losing and shortsighted.

The draft is not an exact science, but picking early is a great benefit.

The reinhart pick and nylander pick were both bad picks. That's on gmtm: not where the sabres picked in the draft.

Given the opportunity gmtm would have picked matthews or laine.
The sabres would have a better future with either if them over nylander

- Boss34


How can you say that people are shortsighted? We've been a lottery team for, what, 8 years?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 24 @ 8:21 PM ET
How can you say that people are shortsighted? We've been a lottery team for, what, 8 years?
- Powerslave



the argument would be that short sightedness (and by extension short term/accelerated trades) put us there, not patience.


Oilers are having a similar problem while Matt Barzal ultimately convinces JT to stay on long island.

Extreme exaggeration, but it gets the point across.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 24 @ 8:22 PM ET
Sabres could have done a lot worse . I always consider the drafted players 3-4 yrs away from being anything .
https://www.hockey-refere...draft/NHL_2014_entry.html

- cabin


Sam really has played well recently, so I'm not going to bash him.

Nylander? He could be good, but nothing is pointing in that direction.

Bad in the ahl, not scoring at all or even getting shots on net.
Not standing out at 19 in the juniors against 17 and 18 year olds.

Casey has my hopes up.

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 24 @ 8:25 PM ET
How can you say that people are shortsighted? We've been a lottery team for, what, 8 years?
- Powerslave



You want to win now. Short term , be happy tonight they won , yeah!

Lose and pick a potential superstar.
Someone who can be great nwxt year and for a long time.

Again, the draft is not an exact science.

I believe we finally have a gm who has a clue with drafting. Casey looks solid

cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 24 @ 8:26 PM ET
Sam really has played well recently, so I'm not going to bash him.

Nylander? He could be good, but nothing is pointing in that direction.

Bad in the ahl, not scoring at all or even getting shots on net.
Not standing out at 19 in the juniors against 17 and 18 year olds.

Casey has my hopes up.

- Boss34


Nylander seems to be the chosen one to be a barista. And he was rumored to be the best one of the kids.
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Jan 24 @ 8:32 PM ET
Like most on here, i am sick of the losing and tanking talk. However, I need to suck it up for the remainder of this season and hope they finish 30/31. Losing lots of entertaining games 4-3 and 5-4 would be perfect to me. The end goal of improving our chances to get one of Dahlin, the Czech, the Russian or Tkachuk is just too great a prize.

In 2 years if one of those 4 is lighting it up with Jack and co and leading us to the playoffs, this season will be remembered as the year we tanked with dignity. If we somehow made a run now and finished 26, what will it have accomplished? Probably not much.

I'll be at the Canucks/Sabres game tomorrow night in my Sabres jersey. Cheering them on to a 6-5 loss! Hides.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 24 @ 8:35 PM ET
KHL forward Leaders ...


KHL
# PLAYER ............GP G A TP
1. Ilya Kovalchuk (F)
..........................53 31 32 63
2. Nikita Gusev (F) 53 22 40 62
3. Nigel Dawes (F) 44 34 19 53
4. Linden Vey (F) 50 17 35 52
5. Linus Omark (F) 53 15 36 51




Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 24 @ 8:37 PM ET
Like most on here, i am sick of the losing and tanking talk. However, I need to suck it up for the remainder of this season and hope they finish 30/31. Losing lots of entertaining games 4-3 and 5-4 would be perfect to me. The end goal of improving our chances to get one of Dahlin, the Czech, the Russian or Tkachuk is just too great a prize.

In 2 years if one of those 4 is lighting it up with Jack and co and leading us to the playoffs, this season will be remembered as the year we tanked with dignity. If we somehow made a run now and finished 26, what will it have accomplished? Probably not much.

I'll be at the Canucks/Sabres game tomorrow night in my Sabres jersey. Cheering them on to a 6-5 loss! Hides.

- SabreWest



Very well put. We are all sick of losing , but Jack needs another running mate.

This team will be good eventually , hopefully next season.

The world juniors being in buffalo really introduced us to some high end talent.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 24 @ 8:37 PM ET
Like most on here, i am sick of the losing and tanking talk. However, I need to suck it up for the remainder of this season and hope they finish 30/31. Losing lots of entertaining games 4-3 and 5-4 would be perfect to me. The end goal of improving our chances to get one of Dahlin, the Czech, the Russian or Tkachuk is just too great a prize.

In 2 years if one of those 4 is lighting it up with Jack and co and leading us to the playoffs, this season will be remembered as the year we tanked with dignity. If we somehow made a run now and finished 26, what will it have accomplished? Probably not much.

I'll be at the Canucks/Sabres game tomorrow night in my Sabres jersey. Cheering them on to a 6-5 loss! Hides.

- SabreWest


I'm with ya . I want that pick this season and no more tanking losing playing like crap.
The Last season I will accept it . (really have no other choice)
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jan 24 @ 8:39 PM ET
KHL forward Leaders ...


KHL
# PLAYER ............GP G A TP
1. Ilya Kovalchuk (F)
..........................53 31 32 63
2. Nikita Gusev (F) 53 22 40 62
3. Nigel Dawes (F) 44 34 19 53
4. Linden Vey (F) 50 17 35 52
5. Linus Omark (F) 53 15 36 51


nigel dawes....now there's a blast from the past




- cabin

JetpackJesus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Honolulu, HI
Joined: 08.27.2007

Jan 24 @ 8:40 PM ET

- cabin

He hasn't posted since I asked. Dominoes?

... More to come.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 24 @ 8:40 PM ET
He hasn't posted since I asked. Dominoes?

... More to come.

- JetpackJesus


That was good .Potd . Seems some missed it .
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 24 @ 8:44 PM ET
I'm with ya . I want that pick this season and no more tanking losing playing like crap.
The Last season I will accept it . (really have no other choice)

- cabin



In all the years of buffalo sports, do you remember the bills or sabres tanking. (Prior to the last 5 years)

Bills clearly lost to the jets in 2016 last game on purpose.

I can't remember tanking for Bruce or Pierre.
Did we?
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 24 @ 8:51 PM ET
In all the years of buffalo sports, do you remember the bills or sabres tanking. (Prior to the last 5 years)

Bills clearly lost to the jets in 2016 last game on purpose.

I can't remember tanking for Bruce or Pierre.
Did we?

- Boss34


I'm the wrong sports fan to ask on that one . I'm sure someone knows on here . Wasn't much a football guy. still not .

The Sabres just sucked to get Turgeon I remember that.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jan 24 @ 8:51 PM ET
You want to win now. Short term , be happy tonight they won , yeah!

Lose and pick a potential superstar.
Someone who can be great nwxt year and for a long time.

Again, the draft is not an exact science.

I believe we finally have a gm who has a clue with drafting. Casey looks solid

- Boss34


Again, though, we've been a lottery team for going on a decade. Yeah, I want to win now. Who doesn't? It's getting old. I used to never, and I mean NEVER, miss a game. I bet there were 10 games I didn't even bother to watch this year.

Bottom line, no matter where you pick, you have to draft well. Casey looks awesome. Nylander looks like sh!t. Both were 8's. Guhle (a second rounder) looks like a potential stud. Ullmark could be a steal.

Don't get me wrong. If we end up with Dahlin, Zadina, etc, I'll be thrilled, but we've got to stop relying on the hope of finishing bottom 2, and start hitting on a few 2nd and 3rd rounders, i.e. Kucherov.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 24 @ 8:54 PM ET
I'm the wrong sports fan to ask on that one . I'm sure someone knows on here . Wasn't much a football guy. still not .
- cabin



Even with Pierre turgeon , I do not remember anyone talking about tanking or losing on purpose with/ without dignity.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 24 @ 8:54 PM ET
I'm the wrong sports fan to ask on that one . I'm sure someone knows on here . Wasn't much a football guy. still not .
- cabin



Even with Pierre turgeon , I do not remember anyone talking about tanking or losing on purpose with/ without dignity.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 24 @ 8:56 PM ET
Even with Pierre turgeon , I do not remember anyone talking about tanking or losing on purpose with/ without dignity.
- Boss34

There was no losing on purpose . Team was just bad that year .
I think the Oilers coined that phrase or were given that tag
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jan 24 @ 8:59 PM ET


Do you? Besides what you call one of you friends ?

- cabin


Hey my super hero model kits didn’t build it self
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 24 @ 9:01 PM ET
Again, though, we've been a lottery team for going on a decade. Yeah, I want to win now. Who doesn't? It's getting old. I used to never, and I mean NEVER, miss a game. I bet there were 10 games I didn't even bother to watch this year.

Bottom line, no matter where you pick, you have to draft well. Casey looks awesome. Nylander looks like sh!t. Both were 8's. Guhle (a second rounder) looks like a potential stud. Ullmark could be a steal.

Don't get me wrong. If we end up with Dahlin, Zadina, etc, I'll be thrilled, but we've got to stop relying on the hope of finishing bottom 2, and start hitting on a few 2nd and 3rd rounders, i.e. Kucherov.

- Powerslave


Fair enough:

drafting and missing on players is the reason we can't stay competitive.

Guhle, mitts and ullmark look like good picks.

The Bruins always draft well. They look set for the future.

Looks like the bills have the right guys in place , hope the sabres do as well.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jan 24 @ 9:05 PM ET
In all the years of buffalo sports, do you remember the bills or sabres tanking. (Prior to the last 5 years)

Bills clearly lost to the jets in 2016 last game on purpose.

I can't remember tanking for Bruce or Pierre.
Did we?

- Boss34


im not a football guy. With it being the worst sport in the history of sports...including professional jarts.
But I do remember when the Balckhawks were so bad, they would have 5000-7000 people in their seats on a weekday night. And I also remember the time between Lemiux/Jagr and Crosby/Malkin when the Pens were not only a guaranteed win, but a good "punching bag" win in the NHL.
Both those teams tanked. But they didn't call it tanking back then. They just called it "being bad."
I actually remember reading an article where "experts" were speculating that Chicago might move because they were so bad. Nobody remembers that after multiple cups.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jan 24 @ 9:06 PM ET
Even with Pierre turgeon , I do not remember anyone talking about tanking or losing on purpose with/ without dignity.
- Boss34

some of the sabres loses that season

mtl 3-6
pit 3-8
edm 0-5
hart 1-9
cgy 1-7
bos 0-9
cgy 4-10
bost 2-6
mtl 4-9

80gp 37-32-11 85pts
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Jan 24 @ 9:21 PM ET
I hope Jbotts/Housely give Jack the "C" at the season end press conference. No need to keep anyone in suspence - this is Jack's team. Imagine how much more motivated he will be this summer in the gym/at the rink knowing he has the responsibility of being Captain Jack! He'll likely get 90 pts this year - i could see him pushing for 100 next year.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 24 @ 9:24 PM ET
I hope Jbotts/Housely give Jack the "C" at the season end press conference. No need to keep anyone in suspence - this is Jack's team. Imagine how much more motivated he will be this summer in the gym/at the rink knowing he has the responsibility of being Captain Jack! He'll likely get 90 pts this year - i could see him pushing for 100 next year.
- SabreWest

He will be captain. Just a matter of when.

Middlestadt will be the Barzal of next season

Guhle will be like Jacob Slavin

We will be good
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