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Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Jan 24 @ 6:16 PM ET
Sanheim is fully equipped right now to take on the role that he will be tasked to do in the NHL, problem is they didn't asked him to do it. Right now, he has NHL skating, hands and vision. And for some reason, they didn't ask him to use it. It's the thing where he gets most of his confidence from and asked him not to use it.

But all that is besides the main point. The fact is that players do develop in the NHL. On the very rare occasion does a player come in and automatically contribute. It usually takes a little bit of time.

- VladDrag


Well that point is pretty obvious but that doesn't mean a player gets ice time or a role on the team for the purpose of their development. They need to be ready to contribute consistently before earning their coach's trust.

I've seen flashes of all the qualities you mentioned Sanheim has. Can't say I've seen them on display consistently .
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Jan 24 @ 6:20 PM ET
Honest question, has there really been much of an on ice difference in level of play between Hägg and Sanheim? Outside of Haggs leading in hits, I really don’t see it. Why does Hagg get such a pass over Sanheim? You watch closely almost every game Hägg has consistently made gaffs or turn puck over or blown his coverage. Just not sure why he gets a free pass over Sanheim every night?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 24 @ 6:22 PM ET
Honest question, has there really been much of an on ice difference in level of play between Hägg and Sanheim? Outside of Haggs leading in hits, I really don’t see it. Why does Hagg get such a pass over Sanheim? You watch closely almost every game Hägg has consistently made gaffs or turn puck over or blown his coverage. Just not sure why he gets a free pass over Sanheim every night?
- Buzzo


Do you think that Sanheim has seen the same matchups and tasked with the same on ice responsibilities that Hagg has been tasked with?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 24 @ 6:22 PM ET
Honest question, has there really been much of an on ice difference in level of play between Hägg and Sanheim? Outside of Haggs leading in hits, I really don’t see it. Why does Hagg get such a pass over Sanheim? You watch closely almost every game Hägg has consistently made gaffs or turn puck over or blown his coverage. Just not sure why he gets a free pass over Sanheim every night?
- Buzzo

Because he's safe.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 24 @ 6:25 PM ET
Because he's safe.
- Giroux_Is_God


That's the new hockeybuzz buzzword.
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Jan 24 @ 6:26 PM ET
Because he's safe.
- Giroux_Is_God


I don’t see him as safe like some. I think both players have their faults and solid play. I don’t see a wow with Hägg that says he really is outplaying Sanheim and should be in every night. I really watch Hägg close and there are many plays he just leaves you shaking your head. Why couldn’t a few nights in the press box like Sanheim work out for him?
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Jan 24 @ 6:29 PM ET
Elliot Friedman has been saying players likely to be moved at the TDL are Coyle and Pageau.
- Pixote Andolini


I would be interested in both if I was the Flyers. More so Coyle as he is a former first rounder and has a 20 goal season under his belt. Pageau might be a good pick up too but I see him as more of a bottom 6 center. Coyle might be a better fit than Filppula with Voracek. I guess it all depends on what the asking price is though, if Minny wants a first rounder I wouldn't want to give that up.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 24 @ 6:33 PM ET
I don’t see him as safe like some. I think both players have their faults and solid play. I don’t see a wow with Hägg that says he really is outplaying Sanheim and should be in every night. I really watch Hägg close and there are many plays he just leaves you shaking your head. Why couldn’t a few nights in the press box like Sanheim work out for him?
- Buzzo


There have been a few short stretches of games where I felt that Hagg needed a reset and some games off but the coach never decided to do that. So much for the narrative that the coach punishes young players for making one mistake. Hagg is a rookie who overall has played very well in his role for a rookie placen in situations that really he shouldn't be in and at this point in time is a more capable NHL defenseman than Sanheim is. They're both different kinds of players and I think in the long run Sanheim will be a much, much better all around player than Hagg is but not right now. Sanheim right now is not a very effective player away from the puck and his puck skills and offensive contributions are not capable of off setting that right now. He just needs some more time.
SimmerDown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Cold North
Joined: 12.07.2017

Jan 24 @ 6:42 PM ET
There have been a few short stretches of games where I felt that Hagg needed a reset and some games off but the coach never decided to do that. So much for the narrative that the coach punishes young players for making one mistake. Hagg is a rookie who overall has played very well in his role for a rookie placen in situations that really he shouldn't be in and at this point in time is a more capable NHL defenseman than Sanheim is. They're both different kinds of players and I think in the long run Sanheim will be a much, much better all around player than Hagg is but not right now. Sanheim right now is not a very effective player away from the puck and his puck skills and offensive contributions are not capable of off setting that right now. He just needs some more time.
- MJL

I believe Hagg has paired with most of the d-men at some point this season and has played in a variety of roles. Not everything has come with success its called growing pains. The biggest difference right now is Hagg plays a lot more like a man than Sanheim. One initiates contact the other gets pushed around by it but in the long run the ceiling is still higher for Sanheim. In do time my friends.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 24 @ 6:44 PM ET
That's the new hockeybuzz buzzword.
- MJL

Do you no da wae?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 24 @ 6:45 PM ET
I don’t see him as safe like some. I think both players have their faults and solid play. I don’t see a wow with Hägg that says he really is outplaying Sanheim and should be in every night. I really watch Hägg close and there are many plays he just leaves you shaking your head. Why couldn’t a few nights in the press box like Sanheim work out for him?
- Buzzo

Sir, I agree with every word you say. Hagg isn't great. Better than Manning though imo
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 24 @ 6:48 PM ET
I believe Hagg has paired with most of the d-men at some point this season and has played in a variety of rolls. Not everything has come with success its called growing pains. The biggest difference right now is Hagg plays a lot more like a man than Sanheim. One initiates contact the other gets pushed around by it but in the long run the ceiling is still higher for Sanheim. In do time my friends.
- SimmerDown


I agree with most of your statement here but the only role Hagg has been placed in a defensive role with lots of D zone starts and more than his fair share matched up against top lines in defensive situations.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 24 @ 6:56 PM ET
I believe Hagg has paired with most of the d-men at some point this season and has played in a variety of rolls. Not everything has come with success its called growing pains. The biggest difference right now is Hagg plays a lot more like a man than Sanheim. One initiates contact the other gets pushed around by it but in the long run the ceiling is still higher for Sanheim. In do time my friends.
- SimmerDown

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 24 @ 7:23 PM ET
shocking
- Giroux_Is_God


i come here for the strudel, it's great.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 24 @ 7:27 PM ET

- Giroux_Is_God


it's the little things.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 24 @ 7:31 PM ET

- Giroux_Is_God

Love roll playing
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 24 @ 7:32 PM ET
Congrats to former Phillie Jim Thome on his election into the baseball Hall of Fame. Well deserved.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 24 @ 7:35 PM ET
Love roll playing
- Nucker101

especially when there's butter involved
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 24 @ 7:50 PM ET
Believe this game was played yesterday. New material place the candle is dying out on the day.
- SimmerDown

what is meme may never die
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 24 @ 7:53 PM ET
especially when there's butter involved
- Giroux_Is_God

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jan 24 @ 7:55 PM ET

- Nucker101

keep rollin rollin rollin rollin BOY
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 24 @ 7:57 PM ET
(frank)ing marchand lol
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jan 24 @ 8:02 PM ET

- Nucker101


Family reunion ?
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jan 24 @ 8:06 PM ET
(frank)ing marchand lol
- 2Real



5 games..
6 suspensions for that dude..
Not long enough for me
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 24 @ 8:12 PM ET
5 games..
6 suspensions for that dude..
Not long enough for me

- opeth_pa



Good Old Slew Foot Brad.
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