SRam19
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain Joined: 02.12.2015
|
|
|
Both
Plus i think hes overrated - Codes1087
He could be the bridge to Tyramkin. |
|
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC Joined: 12.23.2014
|
|
|
Tanev is worth more than moving from 4 to 3, and the difference between Boqvist and Bouchard is NOT Tanev - Retinalz
True, but the trade up pick will be a late 1st or a 2nd and a third, which is the rumored return for a tanev trade, maybe we get a high third back as well. Not gonna happen.
I was just tongue and cheek telling why we're picking third ov.
|
|
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
|
|
|
If JV hadn't been rushed along with McCann and then injured his shoulder, I don't think we would be talking about JV being a bust and players like him (Zadina) being a potential next JV.
Stuff happens, injuries and poor development can derail, what otherwise might have been a good career. That said, we need a #1D more than we need a 1LW at this time. As someone on these boards (Nucker I believe), it's easier to sign and/or trade for a top-line winger, then get a 1C or 1D. Heck, chances are if you can draft/develop top level D like Nashville, you can trade one or two and load up your top 6 without harming your top 4D.
I know it'll never happen and people will scream, but I would not be adverse to offering Bo or Boeser, Tanev and our 1st to move up and get Dahlin. Get that franchise/HHOF/potentially generational 1D and then suddenly even your crap roster looks that much better. Look how much better Karlsson made Ottawa, it's not like they had much to work with and yet they made it to within a game of reaching the SCF.
Heck, P.K. Subban is only a 3D on Nashville and he's a former Norris Trophy winner and after Johanssen went down, they still went to the SCF and put up a fight against Pittsburg until their offense dried up predictably. - DariusKnight
But Pittsburgh won the cup with arguably a worse D core than we have(with Letang out) Offering Bo or Boeser in a deal for Dahlin is dumb IMO. Take Boqvist or Bouchard, keep Bo or Boeser and Tanev and we will be a better team for it.
Ottawa was 1 goal away from SCF, big deal. We were one game away from the cup and we didn't have a generational #1 D. Hell we didn't really even have a #1 D. Hammer was a Solid #2. |
|
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Nanaimo Joined: 02.16.2007
|
|
|
It's something to be mindful of, but I saw a fair bit of IQ at the WJC. Tkachuk was not quite as good as Zadina but I was impressed with his all-around game. Good at finding open spaces, cycling and really nice netfront work with deflections and rebounds. Gadjovic is this type of player too, but not as impressive at it IMO - neem55
For sure Tkachuk is talented as well but I think his birthdate is also a big negative for me, he missed last year's draft by a couple days I think. I also don't think WJC is a good place to judge a prospect.
Like you said gadjovich can play with a snarl in front of the net as can many others and you can find those guys later.
And no I'm not saying gadjovich is as good as Tkachuk. |
|
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC Joined: 12.23.2014
|
|
|
Boeser + Tanev + Boquist for Dahlin? - CanuckDon
I think he means (Boeser or horvat or tanev)+ 3ov for dahlin.
I would do tanev+3ov+ 34ov for 1ov though.... would be hard but.... |
|
neem55
Vancouver Canucks |
|
Joined: 02.02.2012
|
|
|
For sure Tkachuk is talented as well but I think his birthdate is also a big negative for me, he missed last year's draft by a couple days I think. I also don't think WJC is a good place to judge a prospect.
Like you said gadjovich can play with a snarl in front of the net as can many others and you can find those guys later.
And no I'm not saying gadjovich is as good as Tkachuk. - belcherbd
WHO?! |
|
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
|
|
|
I think he means (Boeser or horvat or tanev)+ 3ov for dahlin.
I would do tanev+3ov+ 34ov for 1ov though.... would be hard but.... - Pres.cup
No - look again. He means Boeser + Tanev + plus our first |
|
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC Joined: 12.23.2014
|
|
|
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC Joined: 12.23.2014
|
|
|
No - look again. He means Boeser + Tanev + plus our first - CanuckDon
Then the man is higher then I'd ever want to be..... |
|
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
|
|
|
Paul Chapman on the 1040 today Donny and the Moj had the best take on the Canucks and Sedins in years. If you get a chance to hear the podcast do it. It only lasts for about 4 minutes. - VANTEL
Isn’t he a fanboy of this ownership/regime? |
|
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
|
|
|
Then the man is higher then I'd ever want to be..... - Pres.cup
Dahlin looks great but you can never be assured that an 18 year old is generational. Is he on Crosby/ Macdavid's level? Perhaps but I don't think it's 100%. |
|
|
|
Isn’t he a fanboy of this ownership/regime? - Nucker101
Not today he wasn't
|
|
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
|
|
|
For sure Tkachuk is talented as well but I think his birthdate is also a big negative for me, he missed last year's draft by a couple days I think. I also don't think WJC is a good place to judge a prospect.
Like you said gadjovich can play with a snarl in front of the net as can many others and you can find those guys later.
And no I'm not saying gadjovich is as good as Tkachuk. - belcherbd
I am leaning towards wanting a D draft this year.
Dhalin, Boqvist, Bouchard or Dobson with our 1st. another D with our second and any other 1st or 2nd we acquire. |
|
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
|
|
|
Not today he wasn't - VANTEL
damn. Even the biggest defenders are changing their tune |
|
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
|
|
|
Not today he wasn't - VANTEL
What did he have to say? |
|
dbot
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
|
|
|
damn. Even the biggest defenders are changing their tune - Nucker101
This happened last season, probably the season before too.
Last year, everyone was harping on about how Miller had to go, give Markstrom the reigns and brink in a backup until Demko is ready.
He did that, brought in a couple vets on short-term, inexpensive deals and drafted well and boom...fans were happy for a minute.
This year he brought in a new coach, who has reduced the Sedin's playing time (what the vocal majority were clamoring for), made a savvy trade for Pouliot (ps has Pedan got any games in ,or just reps of late?)
I get that people need a scapegoat (Aquiliini), but i fully expect JB to make a couple trades at the deadline, have another solid draft and all the haters will pipe down again and tell us all how rebuilds are supposed to occur.
|
|
dbot
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
|
|
|
I am leaning towards wanting a D draft this year.
Dhalin, Boqvist, Bouchard or Dobson with our 1st. another D with our second and any other 1st or 2nd we acquire. - Retinalz
I'm down with drafting a D with the 1st rounder too.
Could use a couple, that's for sure. |
|
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
|
|
|
Dahlin looks great but you can never be assured that an 18 year old is generational. Is he on Crosby/ Macdavid's level? Perhaps but I don't think it's 100%. - CanuckDon
Imagine trading everything and he pans out a as a 2D?
OJ was the highest ranked D in his draft. Had a monster WJC. No comparison to Dahlin's projection but nobody has the same outlook on OJ these days.
|
|
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
|
|
|
This happened last season, probably the season before too.
Last year, everyone was harping on about how Miller had to go, give Markstrom the reigns and brink in a backup until Demko is ready.
He did that, brought in a couple vets on short-term, inexpensive deals and drafted well and boom...fans were happy for a minute.
This year he brought in a new coach, who has reduced the Sedin's playing time (what the vocal majority were clamoring for), made a savvy trade for Pouliot (ps has Pedan got any games in ,or just reps of late?)
I get that people need a scapegoat (Aquiliini), but i fully expect JB to make a couple trades at the deadline, have another solid draft and all the haters will pipe down again and tell us all how rebuilds are supposed to occur. - dbot
|
|
VanHockeyGuy
|
|
|
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
|
|
|
Imagine trading everything and he pans out a as a 2D?
OJ was the highest ranked D in his draft. Had a monster WJC. No comparison to Dahlin's projection but nobody has the same outlook on OJ these days. - boonerbuck
Still honing his skills, still real young. |
|
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
|
|
|
Still honing his skills, still real young. - VanHockeyGuy
Goes without saying.
|
|
|
|
Still honing his skills, still real young. - VanHockeyGuy
And Dahlin is 2 years younger |
|
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
|
|
|
Still honing his skills, still real young. - VanHockeyGuy
And still improving every game in his current league. I really think he will be a 2d |
|
|
|
Neil Diamond has Parkinson's. |
|
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks |
|
|
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC Joined: 12.23.2014
|
|
|
This happened last season, probably the season before too.
Last year, everyone was harping on about how Miller had to go, give Markstrom the reigns and brink in a backup until Demko is ready.
He did that, brought in a couple vets on short-term, inexpensive deals and drafted well and boom...fans were happy for a minute.
This year he brought in a new coach, who has reduced the Sedin's playing time (what the vocal majority were clamoring for), made a savvy trade for Pouliot (ps has Pedan got any games in ,or just reps of late?)
I get that people need a scapegoat (Aquiliini), but i fully expect JB to make a couple trades at the deadline, have another solid draft and all the haters will pipe down again and tell us all how rebuilds are supposed to occur. - dbot
Oh, you must be referencing the drama queens... but yes I agree and fully expect that to happen. |
|