Hyman is awesome. Fast skater, great work ethic, great defensively, chips in offensively once in a while. Love him.




(just not with Matthews, all the time )
- Steven_Seagull

Yeah, not sure I understand why Babcock would put Hyman or Komarov on the ice, when down a goal and he's already pulled the goalie.

but what do I know, I'm not the coach...

For a 22 year old player who was stuck on the worst team in the NHL, that's hard to say. Where does this idea that he has no work ethic come from?

Worst case scenario, you trade Hyman, Duclair doesn't work out and you replace him with Kapanen. Reality is, Hyman is replaceable within the system. Best case scenario, you put another young guy, with a cheaper contract, with 20+ goal potential together with Matthews.
- Unholy_Goalie

Two coaches didn’t like his work ethic. Sat out games because of it. Was just traded for Richard Panik, his older twin.

Duclair is a scoring forward that can't score........

he sucks defensively

can't pk

he is a lottery ticket that Chicago hopes he can develop into something. Calgary did the same thing with Lazar and it did not work out.
- Santo_44

And Hyman is a 3rd liner getting 1st liner minutes with 2nd line numbers. He's a dime a dozen, easily replaced player that doesn't belong on the 1st line.

Two coaches didn’t like his work ethic. Sat out games because of it. Was just traded for Richard Panik, his older twin.
- Steven_Seagull

How do you know it's specifically the work ethic and how do you know that Babcock couldn't change that? That's what coaches are paid for and different coaches get different responses from different players. Babcock hated Bernier and he looks fine in Anaheim and Colorado.

He's also the reason why most offensive plays die in his hands. He's not as bad as Pageau, but he's close.
- Unholy_Goalie

Your eyes are just glued to when he makes a mistake.

ffs plays die of Matthews stick too. But hey, you have shades that go over your eyes when anything goes against what you think so...

and dude, we disagree on Pageua....do you have to be that immature that you feel like you have to bring it up again when you get disagreed with?

*waits for UG to make Gudbranson comment*

Yeah, not sure I understand why Babcock would put Hyman or Komarov on the ice, when down a goal and he's already pulled the goalie.

but what do I know, I'm not the coach...
- PatC80

Babcock thinks that every scoring line needs a grinder who can "get the puck off the other team and get it to the talented guys on the line."

No, seriously - I've heard this straight from Babs' mouth.

Your eyes are just glued to when he makes a mistake.

ffs plays die of Matthews stick too. But hey, you have shades that go over your eyes when anything goes against what you think so...

and dude, we disagree on Pageua....do you have to be that immature that you feel like you have to bring it up again when you get disagreed with?

*waits for UG to make Gudbranson comment*
- Santo_44

Only because they happen so frequently and not nearly as often as they happen for the players with actual talent he plays with.

How do you know it's specifically the work ethic and how do you know that Babcock couldn't change that? That's what coaches are paid for and different coaches get different responses from different players. Babcock hated Bernier and he looks fine in Anaheim and Colorado.
- Unholy_Goalie

I wonder why Anehiem didn't keep him if he was so good there.....................hmmmm

Babcock thinks that every scoring line needs a grinder who can "get the puck off the other team and get it to the talented guys on the line."

No, seriously - I've heard this straight from Babs' mouth.
- Atomic Wedgie

But what happens when the talented players already have the puck and pass it to a guy who has no idea what to do with it if he's not dumping it in the corner and going to get it again?

But what happens when the talented players already have the puck and pass it to a guy who has no idea what to do with it if he's not dumping it in the corner and going to get it again?
- Unholy_Goalie

Don't shoot the messenger here - I'm just telling you why Babcock does what he does.

Only because they happen so frequently and not nearly as often as they happen for the players with actual talent he plays with.
- Unholy_Goalie

He digs pucks out, works hard, is amazing along the boards, defends well and is on pace for 42+ points with no PP time. Put your Hyman hate away, he is more than fine on that line.

I wonder why Anehiem didn't keep him if he was so good there.....................hmmmm
- Santo_44

Miller was cheaper.

But what happens when the talented players already have the puck and pass it to a guy who has no idea what to do with it if he's not dumping it in the corner and going to get it again?
- Unholy_Goalie

It wouldn't surprise me to see Leo dump the puck into the corner on a 2 - on 1 breakaway.

Babcock thinks that every scoring line needs a grinder who can "get the puck off the other team and get it to the talented guys on the line."

No, seriously - I've heard this straight from Babs' mouth.
- Atomic Wedgie

Not get the puck off the team

dig pucks out along the boards and getting it to Matthews/Nylanders stick, which he does very well.

Unless of course you have the eye shades like UG does

Miller was cheaper.
- Unholy_Goalie

Miller is not that good anyway, kinda tastes like Budweiser...

Don't shoot the messenger here - I'm just telling you why Babcock does what he does.
- Atomic Wedgie

I'm not shooting, just asking openly, why do you think he only accounts for half of the offensive possibilities?

Also depends on what other UFAs are out there and how many teams want JVR. But if he gets less than 6 million, it's because he took a discount. He's going to ask for 6+ million and probably get it somewhere.
- Unholy_Goalie

Yes that's right. .I didn't get into particulars on the contract. .5.8to6..was at 7/8 years probably? ..but with the other top six I think their need is at two defencivly minded scoring forwards? center /winger.and of course a top right dman and a solid number four! ..replacing gards ..just as an example. .Reilly/Tanev ..zaitsev/hammer with Hainsey in the bottom pairing ..

He digs pucks out, works hard, is amazing along the boards, defends well and is on pace for 42+ points with no PP time. Put your Hyman hate away, he is more than fine on that line.
- Santo_44

He's a 3rd liner. It's not hate, it's reality. Brown scored more goals than him last year playing on the 4th line most of the year. It's a joke.

Bozak, for YEARS, was the Leafs 1st line center but it doesn't mean he belonged there.

But what happens when the talented players already have the puck and pass it to a guy who has no idea what to do with it if he's not dumping it in the corner and going to get it again?
- Unholy_Goalie

They should go to the front of net and screen the goalie/chip in any loose pucks.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Leo dump the puck into the corner on a 2 - on 1 breakaway.
- PatC80

Leo would dump the puck in the corner on an empty net.

Miller was cheaper.
- Unholy_Goalie

by 750,000...............................................................................................If they felt he was worth it to keep they would of kept him. Don't give me that he is cheaper nonsense.

I'm not shooting, just asking openly, why do you think he only accounts for half of the offensive possibilities?
- Unholy_Goalie

Isn't it obvious... Come on, man.. Really?

Clearly, Hyman reminds Babcock of Tomas Holmstrom.

He's a 3rd liner. It's not hate, it's reality. Brown scored more goals than him last year playing on the 4th line most of the year. It's a joke.

Bozak, for YEARS, was the Leafs 1st line center but it doesn't mean he belonged there.
- Unholy_Goalie

Brown also had and still has an insanely high unsustainable shooting percentage. And when he was on the Matthews line he didnt do anything.

Hyman works on that line, move on to an actual problem.

and Brown gets PP time

Leo would dump the puck in the corner on an empty net.
- Unholy_Goalie

Blasphemy!!!

I am 100% positive that, with the opposition goalie out, Leo would circle back to his side of center and shoot the puck down the ice for an icing call.

How do you know it's specifically the work ethic and how do you know that Babcock couldn't change that? That's what coaches are paid for and different coaches get different responses from different players. Babcock hated Bernier and he looks fine in Anaheim and Colorado.
- Unholy_Goalie

Ya ..look at kadri. .I think that it was a low risk cost for Chicago. .the guys still young. .and being able to be around Toews. .and also coach Q..maybe he'll be able to get back to his 22g