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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 23 @ 11:55 AM ET
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Fun fact.

Since @NHLFlyers Jori Lehterä entered the @NHL in 2014 there have been 207 Forwards who have played 300+ PP minutes.

Lehterä is 207/207 in G/60, with 0.42.

He is currently the Flyers PP2 net-front guy. #Flyers

- Girouxsalem90



wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jan 23 @ 11:55 AM ET
I disagree with that but to each his own.
- MJL



I dont think horrible but he has missed coverage that led to break aways or turnovers, not that all D dont, that doesnt appear to be an issue because as a whole the team is playing really well and the goalies (save the Ranger game) are playing well.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jan 23 @ 11:56 AM ET
the rumor is that Marchessault was exposed so they would trade for Reilly Smith...they protected Pysyk and Petrovic (4D) . Florda front office as also a poopshow then.

Flyers protected Laughton

Minnesota chose to protect their defensemen, they were pretty screwed by the timing of the expansion draft, but I doubt they expected Tuch to be as good as he has been (they had/have several prospects).

- YuenglingJagr



Right i was saying I am glad and would have also protected Laughton and exposed PEB as they did
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 23 @ 11:57 AM ET
I do. What good does arguing that my eye test is better than yours do? At that point we may as well break out the ruler and have a Richard measuring contest.
- JFlyers00


He's not on the NHL roster at the moment is he? My eye might be better.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 23 @ 11:58 AM ET
Hagg has been fine. If he is compared to Provorov, then sure he's not in that same class, but he's still been a bright spot this season. Would you rather have Hagg or Nick Schultz, Mark Streit, or Michael Del Zotto?
- ManCity


Hagg because he has potential to improve. But his play this year is not much different than what Schultz did in 15-16.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 23 @ 11:58 AM ET
Breaking: Eagles lose Super Bowl LII

http://profootballtalk.nb...wear-white-at-super-bowl/
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 23 @ 12:00 PM ET
And when they lose in brutal fashion against the Rags with Manning allowing two players to get past him for breakaways in the first period, he plays the next game anyway because he's "better" than Sanheim.
- Feanor


The Nash breakaway goal is not on Manning, it's on Gudas. The shorthanded Carey goal was due to a Flyer falling down along the half wall leading to what was essentially at first a 3 on 1 that turned into a 2 on 1 and a lead pass for a breakaway in which Manning had no chance to recover on. The coaching staff knows that.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 23 @ 12:00 PM ET
Right i was saying I am glad and would have also protected Laughton and exposed PEB as they did
- nastyflyergirl

absolutely...it was a no brainer...The Flyers were in great position for the expansion draft and had basically no decisions to be made. I honestly trust Hextall in the expansion draft more than most.
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Jan 23 @ 12:00 PM ET
He's not on the NHL roster at the moment is he? My eye might be better.
- ClaudeFather


Doesn't take away how dumb your 2 previous observations are.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 23 @ 12:01 PM ET
The way the Flyers handle defensemen are perfectly fine and similar to a lot of other teams in the league. If you are positionally sound and responsible in your own end they have no problems playing you as a young d-man, and that can be seen with Provorov and Hagg. Sanheim isn't as responsible as them on the defensive side of things so he isn't given the same level of trust and guaranteed playing time like they are. He will get there though sooner rather than later.
- FreshFlyer



Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 23 @ 12:02 PM ET
Breaking: Eagles lose Super Bowl LII

http://profootballtalk.nb...wear-white-at-super-bowl/

- YuenglingJagr


Well, they had a good run. Better luck next year.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 23 @ 12:03 PM ET
That's exactly what I mean. I think Manning is playing the #6 role adequately, but that doesn't mean he is playing without fault. I will say, he did not play very well last game.

It's crazy it took so long for TK to get put back on that unit.

- VladDrag



It's relative. Depth defenseman have weaknesses in their game and don't play shut down defensive hockey. That's why they're depth defenseman.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 23 @ 12:04 PM ET
So shall we just pretend the coaching staff didn't try to get Ghost to play "conservatively" I don't think they have had one set way of developing each defenseman yet, so I am not sure what is proven.
- YuenglingJagr



No, what's happening is that people are pretending that the coaching staff tried to get Gostisbehere to play conservatively. That's a myth.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jan 23 @ 12:05 PM ET
Why are some people pieces of human excrement?
Why don't they go back to their holes in Trollsville?

- Konalover

will you be providing any answers to those 2 questions?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 23 @ 12:06 PM ET
The Flyers could be in 2nd place in the metro after tonight depending how things shake out the main things everyone are concerned about are:

1. Sanheim still
2. Manning
3. Lehtara

Damn can't we enjoy that this team is playing some solid hockey.

I for one right now am a little less concerned about Sanheims development, because i know he'll be fine, and just enjoying this fun team right now.

I LIKE WINNING.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 23 @ 12:07 PM ET
No, what's happening is that people are pretending that the coaching staff tried to get Gostisbehere to play conservatively. That's a myth.
- MJL

rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jan 23 @ 12:08 PM ET
So will Ronald let filppula walk like he did MDZ, or will he at least get a pick back?
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jan 23 @ 12:09 PM ET
The Nash breakaway goal is not on Manning, it's on Gudas. The shorthanded Carey goal was due to a Flyer falling down along the half wall leading to what was essentially at first a 3 on 1 that turned into a 2 on 1 and a lead pass for a breakaway in which Manning had no chance to recover on. The coaching staff knows that.
- MJL


I agree Gudas owns some of it but Manning if I recall was on the far wall and didnt even read the play, that happen at least twice over the recent games. Last game he took so long to move the puck he had his pocket picked, which led to zone time, which led to a PP and that led to a goal. Again, all D make mistakes.

its going well now, most players are playing well, when some of the other D struggle that is when you really notice.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 23 @ 12:10 PM ET
one of Carter Hart's teammates is named Fasko-Rudas

that is all...carry on
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jan 23 @ 12:10 PM ET
will you be providing any answers to those 2 questions?
- rinaldo



You already have, Oh Great Sultan of Slurp.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jan 23 @ 12:11 PM ET
Breaking: Eagles lose Super Bowl LII

http://profootballtalk.nb...wear-white-at-super-bowl/

- YuenglingJagr


WHY DO THE PATRIOTS GET TO PICK THEIR COLOR JERSEY FIRST
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 23 @ 12:12 PM ET
My issue is when gost came into the nhl they let him excel at what he was good at first and taught him and brought along his 2 way game. With sanheim they are trying to hold hostage what he does best until he develops the defensive acumen. It doesn't make sense. Let the kid do what he's good at and develop his flaws. I feel we force him into situations where his flaws are magnified. That being said him being in the ahl playing top pairing all situations is what's best for him for now with how he's been handled.
- Tfaehner


They're trying to force Sanheim into playing defensively as a defenseman? First and foremost a defenseman has to be able to defend and make the right plays in his own end. If he can't do that consistently or well then he won't be very good. Sanheim is young and developing and he just needs more time.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jan 23 @ 12:12 PM ET
You already have, Oh Great Sultan of Slurp.
- Doc_Sarcasm

ok
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 23 @ 12:12 PM ET
Doesn't take away how dumb your 2 previous observations are.
- JFlyers00


You're just mad you are too dumb to realize the kid got outplayed. is it your time of the month?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jan 23 @ 12:14 PM ET
The back read...holy hell

I don't even want to know what it was like around here when they weren't in playoff position. Yikes
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