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- Scoob

you got it

Sorry it must have been against New Jersey then, I guess they saw the same thing and took him off the PP against Washington
- Daceroni

You are correct. They rolled 2 D on PP2 for awhile I wasn't a fan especially since one of the forwards was the offensively challenged Lethera

Could the mods please remove this guy. If he causes BigE to post less it would be a big loss.
- coffee junkie

Thanks but no worries, I usually try to just ignore him.

whack? then why are you not talking about hockey then?
- rinaldo

You needed an intervention.

Yet their biggest contributors have been guys that have been cast off by other teams. Marchessault not only walked in Tampa, but is believe to be the reason for VGK to take on Reilly Smith's contract. Smith himself has been very good. Tuch, Schmidt, Theodore, Haula, and Karlsson were all deemed worth losing over other players

Subban was a waiver add as well, not expansion pick
- YuenglingJagr

but do we know they are better than the players kept? I mean the Flyers were happier to lose PEB than Laughton. I don't recall who each player protected. Who did Florida protect over Marchessault? Obviously teams make mistakes. Even the all time best GMs make mistakes. the best GMs make the fewest mistakes.

In all honesty if I was the GM Morin would have made the team over Sanheim.

If you're the Flyers and make the playoffs who do you want in the first round? I'm thinking we could beat NJ or Columbus in a series.

pretty sure I read he's a shutout away from tying the league's shutout record as well.
- Ftown19125

he is

I think the reason for 2 defenders on PP 2 is because when they usually get out the PP is set to end in a couple seconds. This allows for them to already have the 2 defenders out instead of trying to get a quick change of a forward for a defender.

I'm arguing about it cause I don't really want to get into how the Flyers handling of Sanheim shows they have a fundamentally flawed method of evaluating defensemen that will be a significant drag on the team's performance until there is a change in management.
- Feanor

Do you feel as if this issue goes higher than the coaching staff?

Talent evaluation at the NHL level has and will continue to be my biggest concern going forward with this team.

However, in this specific case, due to the sheer amount of time it took Hextall to send Sanheim to the AHL, I believe he thinks Sanheim is one of the 6 best D on the roster. He doesn't strike me as a guy who would micro-manage the coach with lineup decisions.

I think the reason for 2 defenders on PP 2 is because when they usually get out the PP is set to end in a couple seconds. This allows for them to already have the 2 defenders out instead of trying to get a quick change of a forward for a defender.
- J35Bacher

I don't have an issue with 2 D on PP2 at all. I have an issue with a poopty D on PP2

Not sure if Lehtera is helping at all but he has more experience in the league than Leier does and they were using him on the pk when it was terrible so, there's no where to go but up from that point anyway. I don't know if Lehtera was on St Louis's pk when he was with them but, I do notice his positioning is pretty good out there on the pk. I think Hextall is trying to trade Lehtera at the deadline , hence the pk/pp time. Maybe trying to sell him as a decent special teams pickup for a contender
-FreshFlyer

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Fun fact.

Since @NHLFlyers Jori Lehterä entered the @NHL in 2014 there have been 207 Forwards who have played 300+ PP minutes.

Lehterä is 207/207 in G/60, with 0.42.

He is currently the Flyers PP2 net-front guy. #Flyers

My issue is when gost came into the nhl they let him excel at what he was good at first and taught him and brought along his 2 way game. With sanheim they are trying to hold hostage what he does best until he develops the defensive acumen. It doesn't make sense. Let the kid do what he's good at and develop his flaws. I feel we force him into situations where his flaws are magnified. That being said him being in the ahl playing top pairing all situations is what's best for him for now with how he's been handled.
- Tfaehner

Haha are you serious? Ghost is was way more offensively dynamic than Sanheim, do people on these boards not watch the games? Sanheim did not look good out there, sure he had some flashes but he was not ready.

I don't have an issue with 2 D on PP2 at all. I have an issue with a poopty D on PP2
- YuenglingJagr

one can also point out that the VGK were put in a position to get decent to good NHL talent, more so that any other expansion team. How many expansion teams can get a Fluery and a young goalie in Subban? Some teams were in a position to really lose good players. The Flyers were lucky this time to only lose PEB but that most likely won't be the case for Seattle. Of course that all said who expected the best record in the league? that is absurd
- nastyflyergirl

Very good point as well. The previous expansions have allowed for better protection of players.

cant answer that one. Maybe in practice he has shown some stuff and they are trying it out. No issue with it as the pk has been brutal.

Have they used ghoul on the pk yet? I am drawing a blank for some reason.
- rinaldo

it does appear that Flip and Lethera have some Chemistry

I don't get the reason why everyone is so sour on Hagg. He's a rookie first of all and he's leading the NHL in hits right now. From what I've seen he does a good job of finishing checks, clears the front of the net decently and had pretty good positioning most of the time. Not to mention I rarely see him make mistakes that cost the team. Sure he doesn't have the offensive prowess of a Ghost or Provorov but he is a safe player and you need players like that to win. His advanced stats might look bad or whatever it is but when I watch the team play he is definitely a factor out there and the Flyers would be worse off without him in the lineup. He's also only going to get better.
- FreshFlyer

Hagg has been fine. If he is compared to Provorov, then sure he's not in that same class, but he's still been a bright spot this season. Would you rather have Hagg or Nick Schultz, Mark Streit, or Michael Del Zotto?

Manning has been horrible since coming back from his injury.
- Feanor

I agree but the team is playing well and the goalies are playing well, cant change now.

I think the reason for 2 defenders on PP 2 is because when they usually get out the PP is set to end in a couple seconds. This allows for them to already have the 2 defenders out instead of trying to get a quick change of a forward for a defender.
- J35Bacher

but do we know they are better than the players kept? I mean the Flyers were happier to lose PEB than Laughton. I don't recall who each player protected. Who did Florida protect over Marchessault? Obviously teams make mistakes. Even the all time best GMs make mistakes. the best GMs make the fewest mistakes.

In all honesty if I was the GM Morin would have made the team over Sanheim.
- nastyflyergirl

the rumor is that Marchessault was exposed so they would trade for Reilly Smith...they protected Pysyk and Petrovic (4D) . Florda front office as also a poopshow then.

Flyers protected Laughton

Minnesota chose to protect their defensemen, they were pretty screwed by the timing of the expansion draft, but I doubt they expected Tuch to be as good as he has been (they had/have several prospects).

Haha are you serious? Ghost is was way more offensively dynamic than Sanheim, do people on these boards not watch the games? Sanheim did not look good out there, sure he had some flashes but he was not ready.
- ClaudeFather

I think Sanheim could possibly match Ghost's point production in time, but he doesn't have the same dyanmic style as Ghost. Ghost is a more exciting player, and has really come on defensively. I think Sanheim will be more of a "standard" 2-way defenseman, maybe a prime J-Bo type.

Hagg has been fine. If he is compared to Provorov, then sure he's not in that same class, but he's still been a bright spot this season. Would you rather have Hagg or Nick Schultz, Mark Streit, or Michael Del Zotto?
- ManCity

Hagg a thousand times Hagg...

I think Sanheim could possibly match Ghost's point production in time, but he doesn't have the same dyanmic style as Ghost. Ghost is a more exciting player, and has really come on defensively. I think Sanheim will be more of a "standard" 2-way defenseman, maybe a prime J-Bo type.
- jmatchett383

Same points with lower risk? Sign me up.

I think Sanheim could possibly match Ghost's point production in time, but he doesn't have the same dyanmic style as Ghost. Ghost is a more exciting player, and has really come on defensively. I think Sanheim will be more of a "standard" 2-way defenseman, maybe a prime J-Bo type.
- jmatchett383

I totally hear you on that but whoever it was claimed they were holding Sanheim back in reference to how they handled Ghost his rookie year. Ghost was ready, and produced offensively. Sanheim kind of seemed like a deer in the headlights and was not ready, nothing wrong with that. Some players need more time.

If you're the Flyers and make the playoffs who do you want in the first round? I'm thinking we could beat NJ or Columbus in a series.
- FreshFlyer

Jersey would be my first choice, followed by the Isles, Jackets and then the Rags. But honestly, I'll just be thrilled to be watching Flyers playoff hockey

I think Sanheim could possibly match Ghost's point production in time, but he doesn't have the same dyanmic style as Ghost. Ghost is a more exciting player, and has really come on defensively. I think Sanheim will be more of a "standard" 2-way defenseman, maybe a prime J-Bo type.
- jmatchett383

Sanheim was being asked to transition to the best league in the world while not doing the thing he does best