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Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 22 @ 6:28 PM ET
For a 1st?????

- Marwood

He is definitely worth more than we paid for him. He produces at a 2nd line rate, good forcheck and good backcheck. Is defensively responsibly. I don't see why he couldnt get a late 1st, or even a 2nd and a good prospect at this point.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jan 22 @ 6:30 PM ET
He is definitely worth more than we paid for him. He produces at a 2nd line rate, good forcheck and good backcheck. Is defensively responsibly. I don't see why he couldnt get a late 1st, or even a 2nd and a good prospect at this point.
- Retinalz


Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 22 @ 6:34 PM ET
He is definitely worth more than we paid for him. He produces at a 2nd line rate, good forcheck and good backcheck. Is defensively responsibly. I don't see why he couldnt get a late 1st, or even a 2nd and a good prospect at this point.
- Retinalz


Pass some of dat
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 22 @ 6:35 PM ET
Arnt the Sedins around 190lbs??
- Brooks_Light

Imagine the ice he'd open up for Bo and Brock with his speed and skill.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 22 @ 6:46 PM ET
Ehlers looked pretty dangerous last night. Too bad the Canucks don't have big guys like his current line mates, Little and Perrault to allow him to play well.

Good thing it's 2018, not 1998.

- Nucker101


He has some small guys on defense as well. Buff, Trouba and Myers are pretty small guys.

Edit: Winnipeg has a pretty nice mix of speed skill and size.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 22 @ 6:51 PM ET
http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...de-deadline-plans/sn-amp/
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 22 @ 6:52 PM ET
He came back to brag about his threesome.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Me, her website and my hand.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 22 @ 6:54 PM ET
Pass some of dat
- Nucker101

So your thinking that the value of a prospect on the cusp of being a bust, getting bought low, then plays meaningful games at the NHL level and improves to the point of being on pace for 2nd line production 2 years in a row, is not worth more than a late 2nd?He is on pace for a 50 pt season. That is 2nd line production.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jan 22 @ 6:59 PM ET
So your thinking that the value of a prospect on the cusp of being a bust, getting bought low, then plays meaningful games at the NHL level and improves to the point of being on pace for 2nd line production 2 years in a row, is not worth more than a late 2nd?He is on pace for a 50 pt season. That is 2nd line production.
- Retinalz



Maybe a high second... or a 2nd with a 1st rounder condition on production, cup or re-signing perhaps but firsts are worth a hell of a lot more in recent years.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jan 22 @ 7:05 PM ET
He keeps the mood light in the dressing room with his playlist.
- VanHockeyGuy





$3,000,000 a year DJ.

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 22 @ 7:10 PM ET
He has some small guys on defense as well. Buff, Trouba and Myers are pretty small guys.

Edit: Winnipeg has a pretty nice mix of speed skill and size.

- Reubenkincade

Weird that Josh Morrissey is the dman he's been on the ice with the 2nd most mins at 5v5

Surprised he hasn't been hospitalized yet.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 22 @ 7:11 PM ET
So your thinking that the value of a prospect on the cusp of being a bust, getting bought low, then plays meaningful games at the NHL level and improves to the point of being on pace for 2nd line production 2 years in a row, is not worth more than a late 2nd?He is on pace for a 50 pt season. That is 2nd line production.
- Retinalz


We can only speculate. But I think you'd get a 2nd + random prospect at best.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 22 @ 7:12 PM ET
Maybe a high second... or a 2nd with a 1st rounder condition on production, cup or re-signing perhaps but firsts are worth a hell of a lot more in recent years.
- boonerbuck

He is an RFA. Teams don't worry about re-sign in the offseason when trading. I think he could net us a 1st on draft day if we traded. Esp if we sign him first. we may need to add a 4th or something small. But the value is there for a 25 y/o RFA 2nd line LW player.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 22 @ 7:14 PM ET
He is an RFA. Teams don't worry about re-sign in the offseason when trading. I think he could net us a 1st on draft day if we traded. Esp if we sign him first. we may need to add a 4th or something small. But the value is there for a 25 y/o RFA 2nd line LW player.
- Retinalz


GM's would much rather pay a 2nd + other decent asset than a 1st nowadays.

How many 1st round picks have been traded for 2nd line wingers over the last 3 years?
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 22 @ 7:16 PM ET
Weird that Josh Morrissey is the dman he's been on the ice with the 2nd most mins at 5v5

Surprised he hasn't been hospitalized yet.

- Nucker101


Pretty hard to hit what you can't catch. The kid is one (frank) of a player.
Our team is slower than the 50 year old timers league in my town.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 22 @ 7:17 PM ET

Pretty hard to hit what you can't catch. The kid is one (frank) of a player.
Our team is slower than the 50 year old timers league in my town.

- Reubenkincade



Yeah, plus what makes him great is that he can actually control the puck well and make plays for himself or others while he's flying up the ice.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jan 22 @ 7:21 PM ET
Probably the greatest hockey take this year from Fox Sports.
1) Trade for Jack Johnson
2) Convert to forward
3) Play with McDavid

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 22 @ 7:30 PM ET
Probably the greatest hockey take this year from Fox Sports.
1) Trade for Jack Johnson
2) Convert to forward
3) Play with McDavid


- classic321

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 22 @ 7:40 PM ET
Probably the greatest hockey take this year from Fox Sports.
1) Trade for Jack Johnson
2) Convert to forward
3) Play with McDavid


- classic321

Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 22 @ 8:09 PM ET
GM's would much rather pay a 2nd + other decent asset than a 1st nowadays.

How many 1st round picks have been traded for 2nd line wingers over the last 3 years?

- Nucker101

Martin Hanzal? at TDL there is always 1 or 2 traded for 2nd line players.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 22 @ 8:09 PM ET


Yeah, plus what makes him great is that he can actually control the puck well and make plays for himself or others while he's flying up the ice.

- Nucker101


Not many can or have been able to do that at that speed.
Winnipèg has been waiting for a goalie to step up and now look like a serious contender.
That is a pretty deep hockey team.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 22 @ 8:12 PM ET
Martin Hanzal? at TDL there is always 1 or 2 traded for 2nd line players.
- Retinalz

Big center vs small winger
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jan 22 @ 8:18 PM ET
Big center vs small winger
- Nucker101


You did say to name the last time a 2nd liner was traded for a first round pick... he obliged.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 22 @ 8:18 PM ET
Big center vs small winger
- Nucker101


Nic Dowd


😀
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 22 @ 8:21 PM ET
You did say to name the last time a 2nd liner was traded for a first round pick... he obliged.

- Pres.cup

I wrote Winger
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