I have never wanted E Kane to even sniff the Hawks roster. Always a problem with whatever team. Players don't like him. Mediocre drive to play. I want JVR if we are going for a goal scoring big forward.
- JRoenick97

If JVR was valuable he’d be untouchable in Toronto. EKane had some problems a long time ago with a totally dysfunctional Jets’ team. Arguably, the last few years he has been the best player on another totally dysfunctional Sabres’ team. Please get EKane.

This Hawks' demise blog has more comments than every other HB blog combined.

If JVR was valuable he’d be untouchable in Toronto. EKane had some problems a long time ago with a totally dysfunctional Jets’ team. Arguably, the last few years he has been the best player on another totally dysfunctional Sabres’ team. Please get EKane.
- Z3Hawk

Or Kadri from Toronto. He plays with an edge and can finish as well.

John Dietz
@johndietzdh

Patrick Kane, Nick Schmaltz, Brent Seabrook, Vinnie Hinostroza and Artem Anisimov worked on some new power-play stuff at practice today. They then spent over 10 minutes huddled with coach Kevin Dineen bouncing ideas off one another.

Kane: "Some healthy discussion. Just some new ideas. Maybe get some different looks and create opportunities. Obviously you're going to work on it and try to talk about it when things aren't going well.
"We definitely have to improve in that area."

All that tells me is that the players are finally rising up and saying, we don't buy into your "system" anymore. Here is what we think you should do. Not surprising that Kane is leading that effort, since he is such a student of the game.
- pdx2ord

If nothing else the one thing this line-up corrects is placing a RIGHT-HANDED D-Man at the top of the diamond - for one-timers from Kane from the right boards. Seebs also also has a big, heavy, accurate shot.

Blame Rocky, McD, Bowman(s), Q, Toews, Seabs, Crow, Kane.

Blame them for 3 cups in 7 years and a ton of the most exciting Blackhawk hockey in our lifetime (I am 60).

Blame them because we have not been in the finals or cup winners every year since 2010.

Blame them because they are dumb, lazy and the game has past them by.

Demand their heads, because there are so many other sterling candidates out there to replace them and that will be an immediate fix.

We know this because we have seen how easy it is to win championships in all sports in Chicago. We know from history that changing championship winning GM's, coaches, and top players leads to immediate success.

How did I do Darth?
- -Doh-

I have never wanted E Kane to even sniff the Hawks roster. Always a problem with whatever team. Players don't like him. Mediocre drive to play. I want JVR if we are going for a goal scoring big forward.
- JRoenick97

200% correct

Please this credit that Q gets is ridiculous. Coach Savard almost got a team lead by 2 rookies into the play-offs the year before he was fired. Everyone forgets that Q was run out of Colorado for incompetence before being hired in Chicago - he was that bad. For me Q has been an impediment to success as he has always been stubborn beyond comprehension. The pro-Q posters always point to the 3 Cups. This is only a point if no other coach could have had the same success and, of course, other coaches could have. The pro-Q posters never talk about the absolute slew of First Round losses. Arguably the Hawks should have won 4, 5 or 6 Cups not just 3. I have always had problems with Q’s coaching. However, this year he has been especially awful, especially stubborn. Curiously, this is a year that he has actually had to coach.

Also, for those who talk about Scotty Bowman as if he walks on water do some historical research. What Scotty was brilliant at was choosing WHERE to coach - he wasn’t necessarily brilliant as a coach. He invariably coached great teams with great players - sound familiar? That has been Q’s MO too.

You know that the real reason Savard got fired was he refused to treat Poppa Bowman as a god. He simply didn’t read the Power Structure - same for Tallon. Tallon didn’t read the Power Structure with Junior Bowman as the Assistant GM. It is like what Dennis Leary says - “Lou Gehrig died of Lou Gehrig’s Disease - you would think he would have saw that coming”.
- Z3Hawk

Amen!!!

Silly me...I thought the primary role of a top 6 forward was to produce offense, not play physical.


- DarthKane

New guys that come in should be doing some of both. Because some one has to. Don't bring in more physical players and the team will regress farther and rebuild will sputter.

Oh please spare me...this team was stocked before Stan franked up the qualifiers to get his key to the executive washroom. Has Stan filled in around the edges nicely to help them bring in two more Cups? - Yes.

But take a good look at the track record going back a few seasons.

Who’s the guy that held on to both Leddy and Sharp too long in consecutive summers costing the Hawks a quality return with Leddy and valuable cap space with Sharp? Who’s the guy that thought Rundblad was the answer to his #4dman need after the Cup in 15 while Oduya was left to twist in the wind? Who's the guy that knowing he still needed that Dman in the Spring instead traded Danault for hot garbage and still owes the Habs a second rounder this year?

Who’s the guy that overpaid an aging core group of players and gave them no movement clauses handcuffing his flexibility with his own roster?

Meantime he trades a guy he should have never signed for that money in Panik for the flavor of the month in DuClair...oh boy. And while the Hawks can say they're getting younger it doesn't mean they're getting better. But get excited because that big contract extension with a NMC is just around the corner for Tomas Jurco.
- DK002

This is all factual. Good and bad points regarding Bowman. I would expect (if he is in charge after the season) that he finally adds more toughness/nasty to lineup. He cannot ignore the need any longer

Toews needs this as he is constantly out of energy and breath from his Kale & Grass diet. So skinny and weak. Everyone, let’s all tell Toews what he needs to do: EAT A STEAK!
- Z3Hawk

...and a dozen eggs.

Oh please spare me...this team was stocked before Stan franked up the qualifiers to get his key to the executive washroom. Has Stan filled in around the edges nicely to help them bring in two more Cups? - Yes.

But take a good look at the track record going back a few seasons.

Who’s the guy that held on to both Leddy and Sharp too long in consecutive summers costing the Hawks a quality return with Leddy and valuable cap space with Sharp? Who’s the guy that thought Rundblad was the answer to his #4dman need after the Cup in 15 while Oduya was left to twist in the wind? Who's the guy that knowing he still needed that Dman in the Spring instead traded Danault for hot garbage and still owes the Habs a second rounder this year?

Who’s the guy that overpaid an aging core group of players and gave them no movement clauses handcuffing his flexibility with his own roster?

Meantime he trades a guy he should have never signed for that money in Panik for the flavor of the month in DuClair...oh boy. And while the Hawks can say they're getting younger it doesn't mean they're getting better. But get excited because that big contract extension with a NMC is just around the corner for Tomas Jurco.
- DK002

Totally agree!!! It was pure lunacy for Stan to lock up his two star players at ages 26 and 27 when it was painfully obvious to anyone watching Toews during the 2015 Cup run that his offensive game would most certainly evaporate the next season.

Blame Rocky, McD, Bowman(s), Q, Toews, Seabs, Crow, Kane.

Blame them for 3 cups in 7 years and a ton of the most exciting Blackhawk hockey in our lifetime (I am 60).

Blame them because we have not been in the finals or cup winners every year since 2010.

Blame them because they are dumb, lazy and the game has past them by.

Demand their heads, because there are so many other sterling candidates out there to replace them and that will be an immediate fix.

We know this because we have seen how easy it is to win championships in all sports in Chicago. We know from history that changing championship winning GM's, coaches, and top players leads to immediate success.

How did I do Darth?
- -Doh-

Hear, hear.

Go Hocks

Please this credit that Q gets is ridiculous. Coach Savard almost got a team lead by 2 rookies into the play-offs the year before he was fired. Everyone forgets that Q was run out of Colorado for incompetence before being hired in Chicago - he was that bad. For me Q has been an impediment to success as he has always been stubborn beyond comprehension. The pro-Q posters always point to the 3 Cups. This is only a point if no other coach could have had the same success and, of course, other coaches could have. The pro-Q posters never talk about the absolute slew of First Round losses. Arguably the Hawks should have won 4, 5 or 6 Cups not just 3. I have always had problems with Q’s coaching. However, this year he has been especially awful, especially stubborn. Curiously, this is a year that he has actually had to coach.

Also, for those who talk about Scotty Bowman as if he walks on water do some historical research. What Scotty was brilliant at was choosing WHERE to coach - he wasn’t necessarily brilliant as a coach. He invariably coached great teams with great players - sound familiar? That has been Q’s MO too.

You know that the real reason Savard got fired was he refused to treat Poppa Bowman as a god. He simply didn’t read the Power Structure - same for Tallon. Tallon didn’t read the Power Structure with Junior Bowman as the Assistant GM. It is like what Dennis Leary says - “Lou Gehrig died of Lou Gehrig’s Disease - you would think he would have saw that coming”.
- Z3Hawk

Thank you for spelling this out. All of it. Despite good qualities I too often had unhappiness with some Q coaching.

Umm also know that when the windows is closed, in both the case on the North and South side, you need to maximize value for assets, decide who you are going to build around and do an actual rebuild.

Unlike the Bulls who have no identity and flounder in mediocrity mainly because their GM is terrible and they have made poor coaching decisions.

The White Sox were in a similar position until they got Kenny out of the way and were ruthless moving contracts. Now at least they will be exciting because there is a plan and they have some interesting pieces.

Nothing fun about Blackhawk hockey now except Patrick Kane.
- fattybeef

Glad to see another good analysis.

Oh please spare me...this team was stocked before Stan franked up the qualifiers to get his key to the executive washroom. Has Stan filled in around the edges nicely to help them bring in two more Cups? - Yes.

But take a good look at the track record going back a few seasons.

Who’s the guy that held on to both Leddy and Sharp too long in consecutive summers costing the Hawks a quality return with Leddy and valuable cap space with Sharp? Who’s the guy that thought Rundblad was the answer to his #4dman need after the Cup in 15 while Oduya was left to twist in the wind? Who's the guy that knowing he still needed that Dman in the Spring instead traded Danault for hot garbage and still owes the Habs a second rounder this year?

Who’s the guy that overpaid an aging core group of players and gave them no movement clauses handcuffing his flexibility with his own roster?

Meantime he trades a guy he should have never signed for that money in Panik for the flavor of the month in DuClair...oh boy. And while the Hawks can say they're getting younger it doesn't mean they're getting better. But get excited because that big contract extension with a NMC is just around the corner for Tomas Jurco.
- DK002

Has he made mistakes, sure, but he also was the one who traded for Leddy, Oduya, do you remember that crappy team in 2011, yikes. As i understand it Bowmans were all in bringing Hossa here, without Hossa without Q, we lose to the Preds in the 1st round, I know it. Being completely hand cuffed in 2010 he brings Leddy here in a trade, and his biggest most important trade that led to 2 more SC, Johnny Oduya and quietly signed Roszival which put us in a position to win 2 more SC. Minimize all you want but without Hossa and Oduya no SC. Just think Uncle Dale wanted to sign Havlat instead of Hossa

All I know is I give Bowman a couple of years to rebuild this.

Wonder where the Bolts would be if they fired Cooper and Yzerman for last year's season

Has he made mistakes, sure, but he also was the one who traded for Leddy, Oduya, do you remember that crappy team in 2011, yikes. As i understand it Bowmans were all in bringing Hossa here, without Hossa without Q, we lose to the Preds in the 1st round, I know it. Being completely hand cuffed in 2010 he brings Leddy here in a trade, and his biggest most important trade that led to 2 more SC, Johnny Oduya and quietly signed Roszival which put us in a position to win 2 more SC. Minimize all you want but without Hossa and Oduya no SC. Just think Uncle Dale wanted to sign Havlat instead of Hossa
- BetweenTheDots

Without Tallon there is "0" Cups

Gretzky greatest player = terrible coach hence Bowman great Coach = terrible GM

88 is still a -3 stop all the 88 luv he is the biggest problem on the PP total lack of production & always wants his drop pass for entry into O zone total selfish player
Horrid 5 on 5
Fun to watch???
Winning is fun to watch like VEGAS

Has he made mistakes, sure, but he also was the one who traded for Leddy, Oduya, do you remember that crappy team in 2011, yikes. As i understand it Bowmans were all in bringing Hossa here, without Hossa without Q, we lose to the Preds in the 1st round, I know it. Being completely hand cuffed in 2010 he brings Leddy here in a trade, and his biggest most important trade that led to 2 more SC, Johnny Oduya and quietly signed Roszival which put us in a position to win 2 more SC. Minimize all you want but without Hossa and Oduya no SC. Just think Uncle Dale wanted to sign Havlat instead of Hossa
- BetweenTheDots

Eh, the 2013 and 2015 Cups were givens. The Core that Dale assembled could have won them both solely on their own. Oduya, meh. Rozy and Zus the same. Saad and Shaw were also of no consequence...neither was Vermette or Dezy...or Frolik...or Terevainen...or Slick Vik (ok maybe not him)...or Steeger the second time they got him...or Brad Richards...

Without Tallon there is "0" Cups

Gretzky greatest player = terrible coach hence Bowman great Coach = terrible GM

88 is still a -3 stop all the 88 luv he is the biggest problem on the PP total lack of production & always wants his drop pass for entry into O zone total selfish player
Horrid 5 on 5
Fun to watch???
Winning is fun to watch like VEGAS
- Goalie-33

Why do you always bash Kane? He's been outstanding these past few seasons putting up career numbers and winning trophies. He also has a history of performing in the playoffs, and has led this team to 3 Cups.

Like....i get why you complain about everything else.....but why Kane? How can you possibly have a problem with Kane of all things?

Why do you always bash Kane? He's been outstanding these past few seasons putting up career numbers and winning trophies. He also has a history of performing in the playoffs, and has led this team to 3 Cups.

Like....i get why you complain about everything else.....but why Kane? How can you possibly have a problem with Kane of all things?
- SimpleJack

I'm 99% sure Kane hooked up with his girlfriend, sister, ect. There is no other rational explanation for his burning hatred of Patrick Kane.

Why do you always bash Kane? He's been outstanding these past few seasons putting up career numbers and winning trophies. He also has a history of performing in the playoffs, and has led this team to 3 Cups.

Like....i get why you complain about everything else.....but why Kane? How can you possibly have a problem with Kane of all things?
- SimpleJack

ALWAYS the last to leave the O zone

Does not play any defense
Does not kill pk's
Does not win draws
Does not block shots
Does not play hard every night or shift
Classic cherry picker
Selfish for his points

Most guys score & look for teammates to celebrate with 88 skates away & wants spotlight on him

So what he can stickhandle?

With all the talent he should lead the League in points every year but wants no part of having to work hard for his points LAZY

Explain the "-3"

He is NOT untradeable & should be considered to dump Seabrooks contract in package


Here come the excuses

I'm 99% sure Kane hooked up with his girlfriend, sister, ect. There is no other rational explanation for his burning hatred of Patrick Kane.
- EnzoD

My wife is to old for him & my sister Died but thanks

What did a new coach in Pittsburg do? Insert drop the mic emojo (jk)
- TrueGrit

Where did that new coach come from? Insert mic in someone's ass.

Without Tallon there is "0" Cups

Gretzky greatest player = terrible coach hence Bowman great Coach = terrible GM

88 is still a -3 stop all the 88 luv he is the biggest problem on the PP total lack of production & always wants his drop pass for entry into O zone total selfish player
Horrid 5 on 5
Fun to watch???
Winning is fun to watch like VEGAS
- Goalie-33

Tallon gets credit from me for drafting and constructing this team. He also gets credit for screwing up the offer sheets. Just wondering how's he doing in Florida? Yea not so good, no matter the talent if you can't find a coach that talent won't amount to much.

Blame Rocky, McD, Bowman(s), Q, Toews, Seabs, Crow, Kane.

Blame them for 3 cups in 7 years and a ton of the most exciting Blackhawk hockey in our lifetime (I am 60).

Blame them because we have not been in the finals or cup winners every year since 2010.

Blame them because they are dumb, lazy and the game has past them by.

Demand their heads, because there are so many other sterling candidates out there to replace them and that will be an immediate fix.

We know this because we have seen how easy it is to win championships in all sports in Chicago. We know from history that changing championship winning GM's, coaches, and top players leads to immediate success.

How did I do Darth?
- -Doh-

Somehow Pittsburgh mgt gets it done but not Chicago mgt. What causes this difference?