Let’s not forget the Dano factor! He has done an admirable job insuring that the Gatorade bottles are kept full. He has established a playlist for the locker room after each game and the locker room urinal picks have never been fresher.

I find this on the comical side. You are 3 for 4 and you throw in Enstrom "return to form" for argumentative purposes I guess based on his 25 games and 3 pts. Anyways, I had a good laugh,

Enstrom can't be mentioned in the same breath or level as the other 3 mentioned, not now, not ever!
- CharlieDog

I’m talked be about his defence, ace

Any chance that having a healthy Tyler Myers made a difference ?
- bennythehat

His absence would make an even bigger difference. Poolman is already better. That said, Myers is making me love Kulikov again.

Lol Benny, I am laughing my a$$ off. Yup, Rexy forgot to credit Dano as well is the defensive improvement in addtion to Trouba, Morrisey, Helle and........... ENSTROM. Oh dear, that is a good one. As if Enstrom is in the same discussion as Trouba, Morrisey and Helle. My sides are sore from laughing so hard!
- CharlieDog

Enstrom was literally in the top 25 most effective defensive players last season.

Enstrom was literally in the top 25 most effective defensive players last season.
- Rexypoo

This year Enstrom is more valuable than poolman or Chiarot, about even with Kulikov, Myers, Buff

I suspect that as cap becomes an issue a reasonably priced Enstrom will continue to be valuable to have around.

This year Enstrom is more valuable than poolman or Chiarot, about even with Kulikov, Myers, Buff

I suspect that as cap becomes an issue a reasonably priced Enstrom will continue to be valuable to have around.
- 2.0

A player earning 8.5% or $5,75 mill of the team salary should be more valuable than a first year pro on an ELC and a #6/7 depth forward. But, I am not sure how you conclude the rest of your statement regarding Buf, Myers or Kulikov or what you base it on. Sounds a bit like Rexy stats.

A player earning 8.5% or $5,75 mill of the team salary should be more valuable than a first year pro on an ELC and a #6/7 depth forward. But, I am not sure how you conclude the rest of your statement regarding Buf, Myers or Kulikov or what you base it on. Sounds a bit like Rexy stats.
- CharlieDog

Sorry, depth D I mean.

A player earning 8.5% or $5,75 mill of the team salary should be more valuable than a first year pro on an ELC and a #6/7 depth forward. But, I am not sure how you conclude the rest of your statement regarding Buf, Myers or Kulikov or what you base it on. Sounds a bit like Rexy stats.
- CharlieDog

That's only 1.91 mill per assist (he only has 3 in 25 games) Can't even remember the last time he got a goal. Actually, I don't even remember when he has got a shot on goal

A player earning 8.5% or $5,75 mill of the team salary should be more valuable than a first year pro on an ELC and a #6/7 depth forward. But, I am not sure how you conclude the rest of your statement regarding Buf, Myers or Kulikov or what you base it on. Sounds a bit like Rexy stats.
- CharlieDog

Lets face it. Enstrom is useful depth this year but with guys like Poolman and Niku knocking on the door there is no way Toby will be resigned to anything more than $2.5 MM /yr on a 1 yr contract. Otherwise say bye bye Toby. Poolman or Niku will save Chevy a few million which can be used to lock in Helle , Wheeler, Morrissey and a few other key guys. Its simple math.

Toby was a beautiful skater and nifty with the puck during his best years. I was a fan...but lets be clear here, he is in the very twilight of his career. His size is a problem . Players are bigger, faster, and stronger . His days are numbered. There is a reason he only gets 16 minutes a game vs 20-25 for our top guys like Myers, Trouba, Morrissey , and Buff. Toby has also become injury prone.

Lets face it. Enstrom is useful depth this year but with guys like Poolman and Niku knocking on the door there is no way Toby will be resigned to anything more than $2.5 MM /yr on a 1 yr contract. Otherwise say bye bye Toby. Poolman or Niku will save Chevy a few million which can be used to lock in Helle , Wheeler, Morrissey and a few other key guys. Its simple math.

Toby was a beautiful skater and nifty with the puck during his best years. I was a fan...but lets be clear here, he is in the very twilight of his career. His size is a problem . Players are bigger, faster, and stronger . His days are numbered. There is a reason he only gets 16 minutes a game vs 20-25 for our top guys like Myers, Trouba, Morrissey , and Buff. Toby has also become injury prone.
- jetsnation

agree

Lets face it. Enstrom is useful depth this year but with guys like Poolman and Niku knocking on the door there is no way Toby will be resigned to anything more than $2.5 MM /yr on a 1 yr contract. Otherwise say bye bye Toby. Poolman or Niku will save Chevy a few million which can be used to lock in Helle , Wheeler, Morrissey and a few other key guys. Its simple math.

Toby was a beautiful skater and nifty with the puck during his best years. I was a fan...but lets be clear here, he is in the very twilight of his career. His size is a problem . Players are bigger, faster, and stronger . His days are numbered. There is a reason he only gets 16 minutes a game vs 20-25 for our top guys like Myers, Trouba, Morrissey , and Buff. Toby has also become injury prone.
- jetsnation

Look I love Wheeler. I don't think we are going to be able to resign him. We are jam packed with prospects. If we lock up Wheeler like we did Little, we are going to prevent guys from playing in the big leagues.

This board makes me laugh sometime. It appears that we have to resign everybody, not trade any prospects/picks, play guys like Hendricks and expect to get franchise players by trading guys like Dano.

Look I love Wheeler. I don't think we are going to be able to resign him. We are jam packed with prospects. If we lock up Wheeler like we did Little, we are going to prevent guys from playing in the big leagues.

This board makes me laugh sometime. It appears that we have to resign everybody, not trade any prospects/picks, play guys like Hendricks and expect to get franchise players by trading guys like Dano.


- TheUltimateJet

I'm fine with Wheeler here for another 5 years for a reasonable price which doesn't exceed $7 MM. If he demands too much then bye bye. Next year I'll predict at least 5 and maybe 6 current Jets will be gone. Dano, Enstrom, Matthais, Chariot, and Trouba, and probably Hendricks.. The major piece here is Trouba. He will bring a valuable asset back . Chariot might have some worth as an RFA but not much. The rest have zero worth unless for some reason Chevy packages up Toby now to an Eastern team who needs some blue-line depth and goes with Poolman or Chariot to fill in .

So six guys is about 25% of the roster. There will be change .

Look I love Wheeler. I don't think we are going to be able to resign him. We are jam packed with prospects. If we lock up Wheeler like we did Little, we are going to prevent guys from playing in the big leagues.

This board makes me laugh sometime. It appears that we have to resign everybody, not trade any prospects/picks, play guys like Hendricks and expect to get franchise players by trading guys like Dano.


- TheUltimateJet

I agree

I'm fine with Wheeler here for another 5 years for a reasonable price which doesn't exceed $7 MM. If he demands too much then bye bye. Next year I'll predict at least 5 and maybe 6 current Jets will be gone. Dano, Enstrom, Matthais, Chariot, and Trouba, and probably Hendricks.. The major piece here is Trouba. He will bring a valuable asset back . Chariot might have some worth as an RFA but not much. The rest have zero worth unless for some reason Chevy packages up Toby now to an Eastern team who needs some blue-line depth and goes with Poolman or Chariot to fill in .

So six guys is about 25% of the roster. There will be change .
- jetsnation

The gap between morrisey and trouba to our next best D has grown so much this year i hope chevy can somehow find a way to pay trouba and keep him here. We can not afford to lose him. Myers and buff are now so far behind him on the right side it's scary.
If we absolutely have to trade trouba there will be a domino affect where we will be forced to trade someone we don't want to, to try and fill the void left by trouba.

I'm fine with Wheeler here for another 5 years for a reasonable price which doesn't exceed $7 MM. If he demands too much then bye bye. Next year I'll predict at least 5 and maybe 6 current Jets will be gone. Dano, Enstrom, Matthais, Chariot, and Trouba, and probably Hendricks.. The major piece here is Trouba. He will bring a valuable asset back . Chariot might have some worth as an RFA but not much. The rest have zero worth unless for some reason Chevy packages up Toby now to an Eastern team who needs some blue-line depth and goes with Poolman or Chariot to fill in .

So six guys is about 25% of the roster. There will be change .
- jetsnation

Agree on Dano, Enstrom, Matthais. Chariot has one year left and is a good 7th guy for depth. Trouba will be traded. Don't know how much. Poolman will be in our third pairing next year.
Wheeler. Heart and soul of the teAm. He will be extended IMHO

The gap between morrisey and trouba to our next best D has grown so much this year i hope chevy can somehow find a way to pay trouba and keep him here. We can not afford to lose him. Myers and buff are now so far behind him on the right side it's scary.
If we absolutely have to trade trouba there will be a domino affect where we will be forced to trade someone we don't want to, to try and fill the void left by trouba.
- Ross77

Buff, Meyers, Poolman right side
Morrisey, Kulikov, ? free agent or something back from the Trouba trade?
I think we are in pretty good shape.
Not as big a fall off as you think

I'm fine with Wheeler here for another 5 years for a reasonable price which doesn't exceed $7 MM. If he demands too much then bye bye. Next year I'll predict at least 5 and maybe 6 current Jets will be gone. Dano, Enstrom, Matthais, Chariot, and Trouba, and probably Hendricks.. The major piece here is Trouba. He will bring a valuable asset back . Chariot might have some worth as an RFA but not much. The rest have zero worth unless for some reason Chevy packages up Toby now to an Eastern team who needs some blue-line depth and goes with Poolman or Chariot to fill in .

So six guys is about 25% of the roster. There will be change .
- jetsnation

I think there will be change as well. It will be interesting to see how your forecast of 25% turnover shakes out and where it actually ends up percentage wise prior to the beginning of next season. With the prospects representing manageable contracts knocking on the door, I think there will be some serious turnover with Trouba as potentially the big ticket item as you suggest.

I can't help but think that with the amount of prospects and picks, conservative Chevy might shed his skin and morph into trader Chevy. There is nothing to support this statement aside from Chevy holding a full hand in terms of picks, prospects and cap space.

Buff, Meyers, Poolman right side
Morrisey, Kulikov, ? free agent or something back from the Trouba trade?
I think we are in pretty good shape.
Not as big a fall off as you think
- sparky1957

I disagree and increased playing time for buff and Myers against the other team's top line wil sadly prove me right. Trouba is sheltering those guys right now by playing against the other team's top line.

Toby was a beautiful skater and nifty with the puck during his best years. I was a fan...but lets be clear here, he is in the very twilight of his career. His size is a problem . Players are bigger, faster, and stronger . His days are numbered. There is a reason he only gets 16 minutes a game vs 20-25 for our top guys like Myers, Trouba, Morrissey , and Buff. Toby has also become injury prone.
- jetsnation

I am just bolding this part because I do sincerely believe that Enstrom is a very unique and positive story. Let's face it, drafted 239 and to have the NHL career that he has had is nothing short of amazing. The other player, which I find just as an amazing NHL story as Toby is Toby's current player partner at 245, Mr. Buff.

Could you ever write a story about two hockey players, complete opposites in physical stature, playing styles, etc, etc, taken in the 8th round in the same year, 8 selections apart from each other that end up playing on the same team for 8 or 9 years or more? Just the fact that two players taken so late in the 2003 draft made it in the NHL is a story in itself.

I always found that part of their storyline very unique.

I am just bolding this part because I do sincerely believe that Enstrom is a very unique and positive story. Let's face it, drafted 239 and to have the NHL career that he has had is nothing short of amazing. The other player, which I find just as an amazing NHL story as Toby is Toby's current player partner at 245, Mr. Buff.

Could you ever write a story about two hockey players, complete opposites in physical stature, playing styles, etc, etc, taken in the 8th round in the same year, 8 selections apart from each other that end up playing on the same team for 8 or 9 years or more? Just the fact that two players taken so late in the 2003 draft made it in the NHL is a story in itself.

I always found that part of their storyline very unique.
- CharlieDog

Yes. Good point Charlie !

Yes - expect housecleaning before next season given the amount of contract terminations ... some of which, of course, will need to be addressed for longer term (e.g. Morrissey, Troubs, Helle)
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Enstrom stays until the end of the season/playoffs ... his cap is already accounted for but next year - no way ... he signs for peanuts or off to Europe he goes ... we need LHD ready player, however, to take these minutes
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But Wheels .... Wheels ! ... yes you keep him for another 5 yrs if that's what it takes ... Holy Mother of you know who - why would you let him go unless he tables the King's Ransom ? ... one more season to figure that one out
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Staying up late to take in Jets @ Sharks

I think there will be change as well. It will be interesting to see how your forecast of 25% turnover shakes out and where it actually ends up percentage wise prior to the beginning of next season. With the prospects representing manageable contracts knocking on the door, I think there will be some serious turnover with Trouba as potentially the big ticket item as you suggest.

I can't help but think that with the amount of prospects and picks, conservative Chevy might shed his skin and morph into trader Chevy. There is nothing to support this statement aside from Chevy holding a full hand in terms of picks, prospects and cap space.
- CharlieDog

Quick count at capgeek shows about 20mil (after new contracts factored in) space for signing RFA's and UFA's next year. There won't be a selloff this summer - but 2019-20 will have substantial change.

Yes - expect housecleaning before next season given the amount of contract terminations ... some of which, of course, will need to be addressed for longer term (e.g. Morrissey, Troubs, Helle)
.
Enstrom stays until the end of the season/playoffs ... his cap is already accounted for but next year - no way ... he signs for peanuts or off to Europe he goes ... we need LHD ready player, however, to take these minutes
.
But Wheels .... Wheels ! ... yes you keep him for another 5 yrs if that's what it takes ... Holy Mother of you know who - why would you let him go unless he tables the King's Ransom ? ... one more season to figure that one out
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Staying up late to take in Jets @ Sharks
- CorydonKeith

I hope I'm wrong but I suspect Wheels will be looking for around 8 mil per year. How does that work? If we have to over pay someone, I'm over paying trouba all day over wheeler. Also no way should a laine get paid more than ehlers.