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Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jan 20 @ 9:25 PM ET
offside?
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jan 20 @ 9:26 PM ET
offside?
- Symba007

Yup
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jan 20 @ 9:26 PM ET
woo!
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jan 20 @ 9:26 PM ET
leafs just tied it at 3
- Symba007


and could have made it 4-3 very easily
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 20 @ 9:26 PM ET
hoffside


-marty
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jan 20 @ 9:27 PM ET
hoffside


-marty

- dt99999

pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jan 20 @ 9:27 PM ET
hoffside


-marty

- dt99999

Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jan 20 @ 9:28 PM ET
hoffside


-marty

- dt99999

incomart or aspinsider?
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jan 20 @ 9:28 PM ET
incomart or aspinsider?
- Symba007

yes
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 20 @ 9:30 PM ET
yes
- kicksave856

ty
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 20 @ 9:30 PM ET
incomart or aspinsider?
- Symba007




"full season or BUST"
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jan 20 @ 9:35 PM ET
ty
- dt99999

yw
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jan 20 @ 9:35 PM ET
"full season or BUST"
- dt99999

95% sure he read that off my twatter
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jan 20 @ 9:37 PM ET
they'll be better next game, guys!
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 20 @ 9:37 PM ET
95% sure he read that off my twatter
- mr.peanut

What did Luc think of your tramp stamp?
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jan 20 @ 9:37 PM ET


That was hugly..
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jan 20 @ 9:38 PM ET
What did Luc think of your tramp stamp?
- dt99999

He wished he could share the moment with you
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 20 @ 9:41 PM ET
He wished he could share the moment with you
- mr.peanut

He's always had a thing for Sri Lankans
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jan 20 @ 9:41 PM ET
do they really think they will score 2 in 60 secs?

dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 20 @ 9:42 PM ET
Damn you Dwight King!!!
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Jan 20 @ 9:47 PM ET
15 nhl players in the past 10 years for TB. 7 for mtl.
if you take out top10 picks, I think it's 10-5.
so yeah, TB did draft a lot better. not even close. that's one reason they're #1 and Habs are playing for a lotery pick.

- fidopro

How exactly are you defining an NHL player? Also why are you using the last 10 years when 2007 was a fantastic draft for them? Anyway quality of drafted players is far more important. I didn't talk about Emelin for example, because him and 3rd liners aren't really worth discussing. When I'm evaluating drafting I'm only looking at making good steals after the 20 picks or so are made, and I define that as either a top 6 forward or top 4 or at least someone with that potential. NHL player is far too vague a criteria for evaluating the scouts work.
Darksyde
Season Ticket Holder
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Inside Henny's Head, ON
Joined: 07.11.2007

Jan 20 @ 9:47 PM ET
It's kinda sad when the highlight of the game is Bob Cole saying, "I always love seeing Richard here in the Bell Centre in Montreal..."
SourceS.V.P.
St Louis Blues
Location: GOTTA GO FAST, QC
Joined: 04.20.2014

Jan 20 @ 9:54 PM ET
in b4 caper's condescending post (masked as a "nice guy" post)
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jan 20 @ 10:02 PM ET
How exactly are you defining an NHL player? Also why are you using the last 10 years when 2007 was a fantastic draft for them? Anyway quality of drafted players is far more important. I didn't talk about Emelin for example, because him and 3rd liners aren't really worth discussing. When I'm evaluating drafting I'm only looking at making good steals after the 20 picks or so are made, and I define that as either a top 6 forward or top 4 or at least someone with that potential. NHL player is far too vague a criteria for evaluating the scouts work.
- apex123


I like round numbers. you want to count 2007 because it was a good year? so why not count 2006 which was an horrible year? or go back to 2003 where they picked AK46 instead of one the many future superstars still on the board.
at the end of the day it doesn't change the facts. TB drafted twice as many NHL players over the years.
and by NHL players I mean obviously players who are currently playing in the NHL. so not counting Tinordi, but counting DLR, even though he's a plug.

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00008385.html
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00006929.html

I'm out, peace
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Jan 20 @ 10:20 PM ET
I like round numbers. you want to count 2007 because it was a good year? so why not count 2006 which was an horrible year? or go back to 2003 where they picked AK46 instead of one the many future superstars still on the board.
at the end of the day it doesn't change the facts. TB drafted twice as many NHL players over the years.
and by NHL players I mean obviously players who are currently playing in the NHL. so not counting Tinordi, but counting DLR, even though he's a plug.

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00008385.html
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00006929.html

I'm out, peace

- fidopro

I explicitly mentioned I went back as far as 2003 which was when Timmins was first hired. Going back only 10 years limits the sample size significantly, especially since the jury is still out on some recent picks like Juulsen and Poehling. It's not unreasonable to assume there is substantial variance in drafting. Anyway, if you prefer quanity over quality as a measure, than that's fine, but the way I see it drafting 3rd or 4th liners or bottom pairing dmen has little to no value because they 're so easy to sign/trade for.
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