there is no way we will ever see a rebuild under bergefail.
- rob121

i am here now.


wooo.

He's heatin’ up..’

i am here now.


wooo.
- kicksave856

haha NOPE

haha NOPE
- mr.peanut

I want to hear what he has to say.

haha NOPE
- mr.peanut

let's go habs!

I’m glad pacio waited for the season to be over to start playing like that.

Lol Price

Dear lord Price.

come on, guys. flukey goal. no problem. here we go.

He's heatin’ up..’
- pete26

Good for his trade value

let's go habs!
- kicksave856

so childish

He's heatin’ up..’
- pete26

maybe he should give Price a hug

so childish
- mr.peanut

don't be like this, mr.peanut.

I’m glad pacio waited for the season to be over to start playing like that.

Lol Price
- Fredo

Well, they can still trade his ass.

Dear god carey 2 in a row

maybe he should give Price a hug
- fidopro

Looks like he’s doing his part for the rebuild..

oh absolutely.
that being said, with Timmins track record over the past years, we can't really blame MB for trading 2 picks for a proven NHL player.
he'll ship him out for less then what he paid for, and we'll all live happily.
- fidopro

Many people keep repeating this, but I've seen so no convincing argument whatsoever that Timmins is a bad scout. Given that many posters seem to think Tampa Bay's scouting is better, I did a very quick eyeball comparison between the teams and nothing seems to suggest they've done better than Montreal since 2003 (which is when Timmins was hired I believe). Omitting top 5 picks (because clearly a moron would look like a genius if he had a regular supply of those), Tampa Bay has drafted players like Kucherov 2nd round 2011, Palat 7th round 2011, and Vasilevsky 1rs round 2012. Palat was clearly a fluke, or they would have drafted him several rounds earlier. Montreal drafted Halak 9th round 2003 (again obvious fluke), Ryan McDonagh 1rst round 2007, Pacioretty 1rst round 2007, Subban 2nd round 2007, Gallagher 5th round 2010, Hudon 5th round 2012, and Mete 4th round 2016. I'm sure there's noteworthy players I missed on Tampa's side because I don't know their team history nearly as well, but the point is is that there's no clear evidence that Tampa's drafting has been any better than Montreal. Now with GMs I'd argue it's a very different story.

Looks like he’s doing his part for the rebuild..
- pete26

he is not the same netminder this year, lots of weak goals that didn't go in previously

- deadpoulet

That’s what Luc saw this afternoon.

Many people keep repeating this, but I've seen so no convincing argument whatsoever that Timmins is a bad scout. Given that many posters seem to think Tampa Bay's scouting is better, I did a very quick eyeball comparison between the teams and nothing seems to suggest they've done better than Montreal since 2003 (which is when Timmins was hired I believe). Omitting top 5 picks (because clearly a moron would look like a genius if he had a regular supply of those), Tampa Bay has drafted players like Kucherov 2nd round 2011, Palat 7th round 2011, and Vasilevsky 1rs round 2012. Palat was clearly a fluke, or they would have drafted him several rounds earlier. Montreal drafted Halak 9th round 2003 (again obvious fluke), Ryan McDonagh 1rst round 2007, Pacioretty 1rst round 2007, Subban 2nd round 2007, Gallagher 5th round 2010, Hudon 5th round 2012, and Mete 4th round 2016. I'm sure there's noteworthy players I missed on Tampa's side because I don't know their team history nearly as well, but the point is is that there's no clear evidence that Tampa's drafting has been any better than Montreal. Now with GMs I'd argue it's a very different story.
- apex123

15 nhl players in the past 10 years for TB. 7 for mtl.
if you take out top10 picks, I think it's 10-5.
so yeah, TB did draft a lot better. not even close. that's one reason they're #1 and Habs are playing for a lotery pick.

That’s what Luc saw this afternoon.
- pete26

Luc?

Looks like he’s doing his part for the rebuild..
- pete26

chill out

Many people keep repeating this, but I've seen so no convincing argument whatsoever that Timmins is a bad scout. Given that many posters seem to think Tampa Bay's scouting is better, I did a very quick eyeball comparison between the teams and nothing seems to suggest they've done better than Montreal since 2003 (which is when Timmins was hired I believe). Omitting top 5 picks (because clearly a moron would look like a genius if he had a regular supply of those), Tampa Bay has drafted players like Kucherov 2nd round 2011, Palat 7th round 2011, and Vasilevsky 1rs round 2012. Palat was clearly a fluke, or they would have drafted him several rounds earlier. Montreal drafted Halak 9th round 2003 (again obvious fluke), Ryan McDonagh 1rst round 2007, Pacioretty 1rst round 2007, Subban 2nd round 2007, Gallagher 5th round 2010, Hudon 5th round 2012, and Mete 4th round 2016. I'm sure there's noteworthy players I missed on Tampa's side because I don't know their team history nearly as well, but the point is is that there's no clear evidence that Tampa's drafting has been any better than Montreal. Now with GMs I'd argue it's a very different story.
- apex123

If Timmins drafted one good center in 14 years people would be off his muscular back

Many people keep repeating this, but I've seen so no convincing argument whatsoever that Timmins is a bad scout. Given that many posters seem to think Tampa Bay's scouting is better, I did a very quick eyeball comparison between the teams and nothing seems to suggest they've done better than Montreal since 2003 (which is when Timmins was hired I believe). Omitting top 5 picks (because clearly a moron would look like a genius if he had a regular supply of those), Tampa Bay has drafted players like Kucherov 2nd round 2011, Palat 7th round 2011, and Vasilevsky 1rs round 2012. Palat was clearly a fluke, or they would have drafted him several rounds earlier. Montreal drafted Halak 9th round 2003 (again obvious fluke), Ryan McDonagh 1rst round 2007, Pacioretty 1rst round 2007, Subban 2nd round 2007, Gallagher 5th round 2010, Hudon 5th round 2012, and Mete 4th round 2016. I'm sure there's noteworthy players I missed on Tampa's side because I don't know their team history nearly as well, but the point is is that there's no clear evidence that Tampa's drafting has been any better than Montreal. Now with GMs I'd argue it's a very different story.
- apex123

Agreed. Same with detroit, people rave aboit their late picks, but if they knew the talent they'd have drafted them earlier