Call me a realist but really I can't expect every single forward on every single team in the league to be the best player at that position. I will take a 30 point forward that is young, year after year after year then a few more years after he is resigned.

Just look at Cogliano. 3 years 3.25... coming off a 4 year 3 million. 30 year old with a career avg of 32 points.
- manvanfan

A 170 pound 30 point forward playing almost 17 mins per game is garbage

Canucks have a lot of garbage, he’s in the pile.

Call me a realist but really I can't expect every single forward on every single team in the league to be the best player at that position. I will take a 30 point forward that is young, year after year after year then a few more years after he is resigned.

Just look at Cogliano. 3 years 3.25... coming off a 4 year 3 million. 30 year old with a career avg of 32 points.
- manvanfan

Yup, Nucker just has an irrational hate for the kid. He is a fine complimentary player and is not the problem. Production is down because of defensive deployment. He is decent defensively and chips in a bit of offense.

A 170 pound 30 point forward playing almost 17 mins per game is garbage

Canucks have a lot of garbage, he’s in the pile.
- Nucker101

When Granny was good (was that last year?), he was great on the PK, had a few shorties, skated well, etc.
I've never thought of him as a big time scorer, more like a Grabner type with the potential to get hot.

Yup, Nucker just has an irrational hate for the kid. He is a fine complimentary player and is not the problem. Production is down because of defensive deployment. He is decent defensively and chips in a bit of offense.
- CanuckDon

A 170 pound 30 point forward playing almost 17 mins per game is garbage

Canucks have a lot of garbage, he’s in the pile.
- Nucker101

I see old Nucker is back. Have a good one.

Call me a realist but really I can't expect every single forward on every single team in the league to be the best player at that position. I will take a 30 point forward that is young, year after year after year then a few more years after he is resigned.

Just look at Cogliano. 3 years 3.25... coming off a 4 year 3 million. 30 year old with a career avg of 32 points.
- manvanfan

When I think of things to call you , Realist isn't the first thing that comes to mind

Yup, Nucker just has an irrational hate for the kid. He is a fine complimentary player and is not the problem. Production is down because of defensive deployment. He is decent defensively and chips in a bit of offense.
- CanuckDon

I actually enjoyed when he had his "fake" face on. It seemed he was able to make a rational choices.

I actually enjoyed when he had his "fake" face on. It seemed he was able to make a rational choices.
- manvanfan

What's strange to me is he has really high standards for bottom 6 forwards but very low expectations for top 6 forwards

Just saying random cliche’s about a player doesn’t prove poop lol.

I can make Gagner and Eriksson sound like great signings by saying random things.

What's strange to me is he has really high standards for bottom 6 forwards but very low expectations for top 6 forwards
- CanuckDon

Like when?

You have no proof of this.


I’ll wait

What's strange to me is he has really high standards for bottom 6 forwards but very low expectations for top 6 forwards
- CanuckDon

so true.

I actually enjoyed when he had his "fake" face on. It seemed he was able to make a rational choices.
- manvanfan

That’s because me and you see the game differently.

When I think of things to call you , Realist isn't the first thing that comes to mind
- VANTEL

When I think of things to call you , Realist isn't the first thing that comes to mind
- VANTEL

Sometimes you have to learn to just roll with the punches.

Just saying random cliche’s about a player doesn’t prove poop lol.

I can make Gagner and Eriksson sound like great signings by saying random things.
- Nucker101

You were last week.

You were last week.
- A_SteamingLombardi

exactly

You were last week.
- A_SteamingLombardi

True story

I agree to an extent. I still think they have value in a 3rd line, sheltered role + 2nd unit PP for a good team that needs more offense.


I don't think their useless to all playoff teams like some are suggesting. Carolina is one of those teams, really solid defensively, have a bunch of two-way forwards, but they lack offensive creativity and could use a couple of PP players for their 2nd unit.

You mentioned Columbus, and I'd agree with them as well. Their PP is terrible this year and they have a strong defensive team that can free up easy minutes for the Sedins and let them produce to help out guys like Panarin. Look at their forward's point totals outside of Panarin, it's basically like the Canucks.

Those are 2 teams that jump out at me, the rest are definitely debatable.


Now would they waive to play on either team? Probably not, so this discussion is kinda pointless lol.
- Nucker101

Flyers? You would likely loose your poop if that happened...

I don't get this argument...you can argue a point to suggest someone is valuable to the team? Even if other's disagree and can bring up other points that back up what they're saying??

yes.

This is hockeybuzz.

This is literally what we do. All day. Everyday.

Flyers? You would likely loose your poop if that happened...
- 1970vintage

I can't see the Sedins going to CBJ, mostly because of Torts.

I could see them going to Toronto, Florida, Carolina, NJ.

What if Daniel goes down for the season and Henrik agrees to a trade to Florida with 1/2 salary retained?

Its a franking joke what the kings get away with.
- Bettmanhatesus

League hasn't had credibility since 1993 when Buttman took over...

Yup, Nucker just has an irrational hate for the kid. He is a fine complimentary player and is not the problem. Production is down because of defensive deployment. He is decent defensively and chips in a bit of offense.
- CanuckDon

Granlund isn’t the problem but a Sedin is?

I can't see the Sedins going to CBJ, mostly because of Torts.

I could see them going to Toronto, Florida, Carolina, NJ.

What if Daniel goes down for the season and Henrik agrees to a trade to Florida with 1/2 salary retained?
- dbot

You were last week.
- A_SteamingLombardi

You making pizza tomorrow? Wondering if I should place a bet...

Flyers? You would likely loose your poop if that happened...
- 1970vintage

yeah