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BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jan 17 @ 10:20 PM ET
And just how should they handle it?? Violate his privacy - just to appease the fan base - and invite legal action from Corey??

The laws on this are clear - just because you and other fans don't like it - and think you are entitled to be told - does not make you right.

He has a medical condition - have you ever heard of doctor/patient confidentiality??

HR departments around the country take great care to protect employees rights in this manner - why should NHL players be any different.

The people on this site need to get over this. In cases like this, the team owes you NOTHING!!!!!!

- dahawks8819

Seriously slow down buddy. Please read what I have posted what I am referring to is the secrecy of the situation that had lead to all of the speculation. Add Toews comments that just made it more bizarre. There is nothing wrong with stating that he has a concussion. Please save the lectures.
DK002
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.12.2012

Jan 17 @ 10:23 PM ET
Just one of the handful of reasons Bowman should be canned this summer. This is another...

Quote ColbyBoy "The team has acquired forwards Dale Weise and Tomas Fleischmann from the Montreal Canadiens in exchange for forward Phillip Danault and a second-round draft pick in 2018."

- EnzoD


Yes the seabrook deal is another stellar one handed out by Stan.

But as long as the Caretaker is here this team isn’t going anywhere. Slam the frank out of Q if you like but he’s won 4 Cups and the 3 here weren’t with Stan’s core. Q didn’t suddenly forget how to coach overnight – but look at that roster – to quote the late Keith Jackson “ whoa Nellie”.

And now that core is aging and retiring – yet Stan has tried to hang on and overpay them – problem is you can’t beat father time. And then when Barry Smith finds a Panarin you aren't able to hang onto him because eventually he wants to get paid.

Meantime this team can’t score. We know that great Panik signing was a big step in the right direction – oh wait now its Duclair. But don’t worry Stan can get out of that deal.

And despite what some think the Cup window looks like the wind slammed it shut. Don’t give away young assets to try to make a run – take a look at the Blues and Preds and the Knights. The Hawks are a shell of their former selves. Bad trades and cap mismanagement have a tendency to catch up to a GM unless the team president has a man crush on their daddy (oh)…but don’t worry the Hawks are scouting another Euro-smurf as we speak.

The Danault dumpster fire of a trade is just another fine example of Stan’s work. It’s not just the fact he gave away a promising cost controlled young center (exactly what the Hawks need right now) but that he didn’t get the defenseman he so badly needed since the f-cking parade the previous summer when he had all season to do it. But David Rundblad was welcomed backed with open arms…

meanwhile the Hawks PR nightmare with Crawford is now in full motion...
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jan 17 @ 10:27 PM ET
Yeah I wonder what Crawford thinks, especially if he didn’t want any of this medical information on him out in public.
- walleyeb1

Hey in the sports world it happens more often than not. Look at the NFL they come out and say it. Player X is out for the remainder of the game due to a concussion. The fact the team thought that they can fool everyone with ducking and dodging from the truth until someone who works in the organization tells their friends about it who makes it public. Really... The whole thing is a soap opera. I hope Crow gets better soon for himself and his family first and foremost. Hockey is secondary in a situation like this
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jan 17 @ 10:33 PM ET
Yeah I wonder what Crawford thinks, especially if he didn’t want any of this medical information on him out in public.
- walleyeb1


Trust me if he has concussion symptoms he's not doing much thinking right now, more like being in a dim lit room with the volume really low and feeling like poop.
eagle50
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: ON
Joined: 07.13.2012

Jan 17 @ 10:38 PM ET
Hey in the sports world it happens more often than not. Look at the NFL they come out and say it. Player X is out for the remainder of the game due to a concussion. The fact the team thought that they can fool everyone with ducking and dodging from the truth until someone who works in the organization tells their friends about it who makes it public. Really... The whole thing is a soap opera. I hope Crow gets better soon for himself and his family first and foremost. Hockey is secondary in a situation like this
- BGKarras

So who leaked what?Are we back to a snow mobile incident?
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jan 17 @ 10:42 PM ET
And just how should they handle it?? Violate his privacy - just to appease the fan base - and invite legal action from Corey??

The laws on this are clear - just because you and other fans don't like it - and think you are entitled to be told - does not make you right.

He has a medical condition - have you ever heard of doctor/patient confidentiality??

HR departments around the country take great care to protect employees rights in this manner - why should NHL players be any different.

The people on this site need to get over this. In cases like this, the team owes you NOTHING!!!!!!

- dahawks8819


That's funny because the team owns his rights.

The only way this could be a privacy issue is if this happened outside of hockey, like let's say a snow mobile accident.

To say the Hawks don't owe their fans anything is a great way to alienate your fan base and they've been there before.

Rocky understands this, that's why information is starting to come out, he understands its a partnership with the Blackhawks fan base.
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jan 17 @ 10:52 PM ET
So who leaked what?Are we back to a snow mobile incident?
- eagle50

This was the last blog. Forgot who it was but had said something related to the fact that his friend was was very close to several of the players. And that is how found out. People were roasting him, well turns out he was was right to a certain degree
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jan 17 @ 11:04 PM ET
Yes the seabrook deal is another stellar one handed out by Stan.

But as long as the Caretaker is here this team isn’t going anywhere. Slam the frank out of Q if you like but he’s won 4 Cups and the 3 here weren’t with Stan’s core. Q didn’t suddenly forget how to coach overnight – but look at that roster – to quote the late Keith Jackson “ whoa Nellie”.

And now that core is aging and retiring – yet Stan has tried to hang on and overpay them – problem is you can’t beat father time. And then when Barry Smith finds a Panarin you aren't able to hang onto him because eventually he wants to get paid.

Meantime this team can’t score. We know that great Panik signing was a big step in the right direction – oh wait now its Duclair. But don’t worry Stan can get out of that deal.

And despite what some think the Cup window looks like the wind slammed it shut. Don’t give away young assets to try to make a run – take a look at the Blues and Preds and the Knights. The Hawks are a shell of their former selves. Bad trades and cap mismanagement have a tendency to catch up to a GM unless the team president has a man crush on their daddy (oh)…but don’t worry the Hawks are scouting another Euro-smurf as we speak.

The Danault dumpster fire of a trade is just another fine example of Stan’s work. It’s not just the fact he gave away a promising cost controlled young center (exactly what the Hawks need right now) but that he didn’t get the defenseman he so badly needed since the f-cking parade the previous summer when he had all season to do it. But David Rundblad was welcomed backed with open arms…

meanwhile the Hawks PR nightmare with Crawford is now in full motion...

- DK002


If/when the Hawks' season is over in early April, McDonagh should clean house both in the front office and coach's room. Need a guy directing the team who does not have allegiances to the Core and the contracts that Bowman gave them. The first step is finding a way to get rid of Seabrook's contract. I just saw a total propaganda article titled, "Seabrook's value to the Hawks goes well beyond his contract". That is true to an extent, but how many millions and years on a contract is "leadership" worth? Definitely not 6+ years at $7mil for a never fast 31 yr old Dman. And I love Seabs he's possibly a HOFer and probably the last guy to wear #7 in Chicago. But man he's already a 6D in year 2 of that extension...ugly.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jan 18 @ 12:59 AM ET
I am going under assumption that Sikura turns out to be a point producing player with obvious skill. I see smallish size guys in DeBrincat, Schmaltz, Sikura. I would think there is a way to convert one of them for a physical center who can skate and has second line offensive ability. That is my hope.
- jhawk59

I think I'm understanding your logic. DeBrincat, Schmaltz, and Sikura are small forwards (either by height, weight, and/or frame) who also are highly talented offensively. You could possibly throw Duclair into that mix as he's only 5'11" but is a goal scorer like DeBrincat who are in contrast to playmakers like Schmaltz and Sikura. They're all top-6 material and would best be suited on L1 or L2 to maximize their talents.

Yet, are they redundant as small top-6 forwards? Add in Kane, and that's 5 small top-6 forwards to go along with Toews and Saad (not to mention Anisimov who can play 2C). This also doesn't factor in Hartman (5'11") who has played 2LW lately but is best suited as a 3rd liner in the long run. So then is it best to leverage that redundancy as a trade chip for a need like an additional power forward to play top 6?

That general concept of prospect redundancy may be a reason why it was supposedly easy to part ways with Dauphin even though they just acquired him half a year ago. In Rockford they had quite a few potential bottom-6 centers who were developing quite well in Kampf, Highmore, and Johnson. So did that depth at bottom-6 center make one of them expendable, in this case Dauphin? That prospect depth allowed the Hawks to shed a little bit of salary by swapping two underachieving wingers in Panik for Duclair.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jan 18 @ 1:08 AM ET
why bring Jurco and Gus up to sit them. They both need mins. Plus Gus adds one more salary. should have brought up Tyler sikura so he can make some money.
- kmw4631

With Tyler Sikura playing well in Rockford with a recent 5-game goal streak and 11 overall (which is 3rd on the Hogs, not to mention having the best shooting % on the team and leading forwards in +/-), maybe Bowman has a plan to call him up near when the NCAA season ends as additional leverage to get Dylan to sign. The Hawks have a natural and legit reason to call up Tyler (i.e. reward for a strongly performing farmhand) while also using it as an enticement to get one of the team's top prospects locked up.

Regardless, the situation with the Sikura brothers seems much healthier and better managed than the situation with the Hayes brothers. Then again, Jimmy and Kevin weren't the sharpest knives in the drawer and had entitlement issues while I don't see that at all with Tyler and Dylan. I feel confident that Dylan will sign in early spring.
hocktock
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Over by dere.
Joined: 07.15.2015

Jan 18 @ 7:45 AM ET
Bowman: Blackhawks’ Crawford dealing with post-concussion syndrome not vertigo http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...post-concussion-syndrome/
- Mr Ricochet


Awwwwwwww hippa violation.
hocktock
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Over by dere.
Joined: 07.15.2015

Jan 18 @ 7:52 AM ET
And just how should they handle it?? Violate his privacy - just to appease the fan base - and invite legal action from Corey??

The laws on this are clear - just because you and other fans don't like it - and think you are entitled to be told - does not make you right.

He has a medical condition - have you ever heard of doctor/patient confidentiality??

HR departments around the country take great care to protect employees rights in this manner - why should NHL players be any different.

The people on this site need to get over this. In cases like this, the team owes you NOTHING!!!!!!

- dahawks8819



Lighten up Francis. He's also a celeb. You act as if this was handled the way all other injuries have been reported and it wasn't. No one asked for more than a simple explanation of why our #1 goalie isn't playing and it was steeped in mystery. No asked to see his medical records. I'd say your m.d. brainwashing is complete.

Simma down na.
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jan 18 @ 9:12 AM ET
Lighten up Francis. He's also a celeb. You act as if this was handled the way all other injuries have been reported and it wasn't. No one asked for more than a simple explanation of why our #1 goalie isn't playing and it was steeped in mystery. No asked to see his medical records. I'd say your m.d. brainwashing is complete.

Simma down na.

- hocktock

Thanks that is what I was talking about.
Unfortunately being a celeb or Pro-Athlete it comes with the territory.
The whole secrecy thing is totally not necessary who they trying to fool
spanky
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jan 18 @ 9:15 AM ET
With Tyler Sikura playing well in Rockford with a recent 5-game goal streak and 11 overall (which is 3rd on the Hogs, not to mention having the best shooting % on the team and leading forwards in +/-), maybe Bowman has a plan to call him up near when the NCAA season ends as additional leverage to get Dylan to sign. The Hawks have a natural and legit reason to call up Tyler (i.e. reward for a strongly performing farmhand) while also using it as an enticement to get one of the team's top prospects locked up.

Regardless, the situation with the Sikura brothers seems much healthier and better managed than the situation with the Hayes brothers. Then again, Jimmy and Kevin weren't the sharpest knives in the drawer and had entitlement issues while I don't see that at all with Tyler and Dylan. I feel confident that Dylan will sign in early spring.

- AEL_Fox


Nice analogy...The Sikura's seem like the real deal. I am also confident that Dylan will sign in March.
dahawks8819
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.29.2014

Jan 18 @ 9:23 AM ET
Lighten up Francis. He's also a celeb. You act as if this was handled the way all other injuries have been reported and it wasn't. No one asked for more than a simple explanation of why our #1 goalie isn't playing and it was steeped in mystery. No asked to see his medical records. I'd say your m.d. brainwashing is complete.

Simma down na.

- hocktock


You know - you really should follow the lesson of one keeping his mouth shut and being thought of as a fool, than opening it and removing all doubt!!!!!

I seriously think it was written with just you in mind.
hocktock
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Over by dere.
Joined: 07.15.2015

Jan 18 @ 9:26 AM ET
You know - you really should follow the lesson of one keeping his mouth shut and being thought of as a fool, than opening it and removing all doubt!!!!!

I seriously think it was written with just you in mind.

- dahawks8819


Make a point. Don't attack me as if that's what's relevant.

Hav a point. Make it interesting for the reader.
dahawks8819
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.29.2014

Jan 18 @ 9:27 AM ET
Thanks that is what I was talking about.
Unfortunately being a celeb or Pro-Athlete it comes with the territory.
The whole secrecy thing is totally not necessary who they trying to fool

- BGKarras


Again, you just don't get it.

By NHL law - a team cannot discuss any injury a player sustains - without his consent.

The only thing they can report is upper body and/or lower body.

There is no "trying to fool" the fan base. It is a punishable offense to do otherwise.

Concussion protocol does not violate this rule - because we usually see the hit that causes the player to enter it.

Because he is supposedly suffering from PCS - this is not something the team can openly talk about - not because they are trying to pull one over on fans, but because THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO!!!!

Why is this so hard to understand???
dahawks8819
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.29.2014

Jan 18 @ 9:29 AM ET
Make a point. Don't attack me as if that's what's relevant.

Hav a point. Make it interesting for the reader.

- hocktock


And seriously - learn to spell and formulate basic grammar.

I have seen small children write better than you......
hocktock
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Over by dere.
Joined: 07.15.2015

Jan 18 @ 9:31 AM ET
Again, you just don't get it.

By NHL law - a team cannot discuss any injury a player sustains - without his consent.

The only thing they can report is upper body and/or lower body.

There is no "trying to fool" the fan base. It is a punishable offense to do otherwise.

Concussion protocol does not violate this rule - because we usually see the hit that causes the player to enter it.

Because he is supposedly suffering from PCS - this is not something the team can openly talk about - not because they are trying to pull one over on fans, but because THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO!!!!

Why is this so hard to understand???

- dahawks8819


Because you're an idiot. This is not how it was handled. Even if you didn't follow the thread, take our word for it. It wasn't handled the same as all other injury reports.

WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?
hocktock
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Over by dere.
Joined: 07.15.2015

Jan 18 @ 9:32 AM ET
And seriously - learn to spell and formulate basic grammar.

I have seen small children write better than you......

- dahawks8819


Right more better.

Fixed
hocktock
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Over by dere.
Joined: 07.15.2015

Jan 18 @ 9:33 AM ET
And seriously - learn to spell and formulate basic grammar.

I have seen small children write better than you......

- dahawks8819


You're an empty post. Interesting to yourself alone.

I've had enough of you.
hocktock
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Over by dere.
Joined: 07.15.2015

Jan 18 @ 9:36 AM ET
You know - you really should follow the lesson of one keeping his mouth shut and being thought of as a fool, than opening it and removing all doubt!!!!!

I seriously think it was written with just you in mind.

- dahawks8819


Is this a violation of my hippa privacy?
Hawks_49
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 04.28.2015

Jan 18 @ 9:42 AM ET
I don't really see the point of getting all worked up about how the team "handled" it. Crawford likely asked them to keep quiet about specifics, and they did until rumors started swirling. Maybe he has vertigo, maybe he doesn't. I don't really care as long as he's getting himself healthy.
dahawks8819
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.29.2014

Jan 18 @ 9:42 AM ET
Because you're an idiot. This is not how it was handled. Even if you didn't follow the thread, take our word for it. It wasn't handled the same as all other injury reports.

WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?

- hocktock


Because the little boys club here like to speculate on things they don't know - that doesn't make it fact.

It only seems to in your little fantasy worlds - as long as you say it here, it must be true - and anyone that knows better is wrong.

Seriously, your posts here are lame.
Stan_Bowman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.27.2017

Jan 18 @ 9:44 AM ET
Again, you just don't get it.

By NHL law - a team cannot discuss any injury a player sustains - without his consent.

The only thing they can report is upper body and/or lower body.

There is no "trying to fool" the fan base. It is a punishable offense to do otherwise.

Concussion protocol does not violate this rule - because we usually see the hit that causes the player to enter it.

Because he is supposedly suffering from PCS - this is not something the team can openly talk about - not because they are trying to pull one over on fans, but because THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO!!!!

Why is this so hard to understand???

- dahawks8819

You need to take a walk around the block and relax. Disclosing injuries in sports is not the same stipulations as releasing preexisting medical conditions and history.
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